cl65 power and performance
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cl65 power and performance
besides my cl65.. the only other 65 i have driven is a sl65. and for some reason the sl65 is allot faster, can spin tire with ez, and throws you against your seat really hard.... my cl65 has a ecu and tcu tune with a free flow air filter.... i have read numorious and numorious posts saying that there 65 spins tire and does not grip at all around 30-45mph.. now my cl65 has never spun tire over 15mph, i cant understand why people say there 65 spins and spins from around 40mph.... i dont know but my cl65 feel slow intill 45mph.. if i used 100% throttle at 20mph it does not spin and it just feels slow and slow intill 45mph and then it opens up... but comparing to the sl65 i drove my cl65 does not compare at all... im wondering does anyone have a dyno chart on there 65 just so i can compare against my dyno chart....
another thing.. i got the tcu tune 2 months after my ecu tune, and honestly i did not feel any difference... i have seen allot of people say that the tcu makes such a HUGE!!!! difference and honestly i cant tell the difference with or with out the tcu tune...
some specs on my cl65 ( BEFORE TCU TUNE )
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
another thing.. i got the tcu tune 2 months after my ecu tune, and honestly i did not feel any difference... i have seen allot of people say that the tcu makes such a HUGE!!!! difference and honestly i cant tell the difference with or with out the tcu tune...
some specs on my cl65 ( BEFORE TCU TUNE )
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
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I would agree with the other two post's check those things, and Ill be honest look back in other post's about the TCU tune everyone who raves about it go had there 600's flashed they have different software then the 65s to begin with and basically gets a flash to shift as the 65s are programmed. Im with you on not feeling much is any difference with a tune on a 65s tcu at all.
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never heard of this sneaky reset but i will try right now.. thanks everyone... does anyone have dyno results on there 65 with a tune just so i can compare
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ok guys i just did the reset and im sure 90% of the time its my amagination thinking its going faster. now does this reset also make it "faster" in the (M) mode? or is M mode always NOT adaptive to your driving habit.. becuase i would love to say that it made a difference but i cant really tell becuase after 1 or 2 (20-60mph ) runs you do, your allready heating up your heat exhanger... soo im guessing the reset is good for the shift points in C-S mode only, the gears will be held longer and down shifts might be faster... but my guess it the M mode will always be the same way regardless what driving habit you have.... but once again i floored it at 20mph and my tires made a little i mean little bit of noise and thats it.. nothing like i read " anything under 35mph is pointless no traction at all"
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wow you have 86hp more then me and 224tq more then me that doesnt sound right,, unless you got a special tune with race gas ect. becuase a stock 65 to the ground should make to the ground around (my guess) 520hp and 640tq, based on ( 604hp- and 738tq stock at the engine)
my car made
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
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wow you have 86hp more then me and 224tq more then me that doesnt sound right,, unless you got a special tune with race gas ect. becuase a stock 65 to the ground should make to the ground around (my guess) 520hp and 640tq, based on ( 604hp- and 738tq stock at the engine)
my car made
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
my car made
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
Look at this CL600 with better numbers
https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...-536-rwhp.html
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You numbers look low, what brand of ECU tune do you have ?
Look at this CL600 with better numbers
https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...-536-rwhp.html
??????
Look at this CL600 with better numbers
https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...-536-rwhp.html
??????
STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ
the tune gave me 25hp more and 51tq more to the ground
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get that thing looked at- thats crazy! with a stage 1 tune(555rwhp) the car was useless in lower gears and kinda dangerous with traction off. this car is making stupid tq down low and actually would have to drive with the mickey thompsons on the street-no joke. im at 660rwhp and can set off the esp at 80mph
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get that thing looked at- thats crazy! with a stage 1 tune(555rwhp) the car was useless in lower gears and kinda dangerous with traction off. this car is making stupid tq down low and actually would have to drive with the mickey thompsons on the street-no joke. im at 660rwhp and can set off the esp at 80mph
i wish i can say that, my car cant even spin tire over 20mph and u can at 80mph WOW!!! what is your hp and tq on your cl65?
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660rwhp. not sure on the exact tq numbers as i could not go full throttle on the dyno til about 4k. 770tq@4200 i think peak is at 3k. i cut 1.63-1.64 60fts
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can you tell me the mods you have so i can do the same, becuase i would love to have more power
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the only problem i can think of is the same problem i have talked about on this site for 3 months allready and thats the mystrious missfire i have on the right side of my engine and nobody and no dealer can fix it... i wounder if the misfire is pulling timing away and wont make any power... but the car had this same problem whille i dynoed it...
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
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We flashed the car, search Eurocharged and My 859.5 Rwtq 600rwhp Cl 65.
Car was stock with a set of K@N air filters, on 93 pump gas. 600rwhp 860rwtq
Car was stock with a set of K@N air filters, on 93 pump gas. 600rwhp 860rwtq
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Sneaky reset should clear transmission adaptive shift points and fuel trims. Former won't affect manual mode, later will.
There is something wrong. Go to Autozone or similar and ask for them to read OBD codes. It's free. See if you have misfire codes or oxygen sensor codes. If you heatsoak after one or two runs, your IC pump is almost definitely dead. Your car is pulling timing and killing power. There is probably a fuel or air or spark (or sensor) issue as well.
There is something wrong. Go to Autozone or similar and ask for them to read OBD codes. It's free. See if you have misfire codes or oxygen sensor codes. If you heatsoak after one or two runs, your IC pump is almost definitely dead. Your car is pulling timing and killing power. There is probably a fuel or air or spark (or sensor) issue as well.
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Sneaky reset should clear transmission adaptive shift points and fuel trims. Former won't affect manual mode, later will.
There is something wrong. Go to Autozone or similar and ask for them to read OBD codes. It's free. See if you have misfire codes or oxygen sensor codes. If you heatsoak after one or two runs, your IC pump is almost definitely dead. Your car is pulling timing and killing power. There is probably a fuel or air or spark (or sensor) issue as well.
There is something wrong. Go to Autozone or similar and ask for them to read OBD codes. It's free. See if you have misfire codes or oxygen sensor codes. If you heatsoak after one or two runs, your IC pump is almost definitely dead. Your car is pulling timing and killing power. There is probably a fuel or air or spark (or sensor) issue as well.
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that dyno chart shown has some amazing numbers that i wish i had on my cl65, i have had misfire codes for the last 3 months and the dealer has not been able to find the problem.. i have changed almost every part you can think of that might cause a mis fire... the car has a bad misfire when it is cold but once it is warm you can not feel it, you would need a mercedes computer to detect the small misfires on the engine... but my power numbers are around 150hp and 200tq off then the other cl65 with a basic tune.. and i dont think my car is pulling that much timing becuase of the super small misfire i have... i can say that maybe 20-30 hp can be lost by misfire but not 40% of my power.. if i was loosing 40% thats a sign of limp mode.. but my check engine light would be on then...... my car is fast and i know it fast, but reading other people talking about the cl65 and how easy it spins the tires under 30mph and that there dyno number are 150hp more and 200tq more then my cl65.. it makes me wounder if my car is really that slow... or people are exaggerating a little to much on there numbers... what ever it is its hard to believe my car is 150hp and 200tq less then every 65 owner on this forum.....
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when my car was on the dyno you can see after every run on the dyno, my horsepower number were getting lower and lower and lower... which is heat soak... and that took 2-3 runs to notice a 20hp diffrence.....
my car was dynoed on a $180,000 all wheel drive dyno with a in house wind tunnel effect to duplicate you driving in 120mph of wind.. i highly dought this dyno miss read my numbers and im sure this dyno isnt like those other dyno that give out high numbers.. this dyno is suppose to be as true as can be on numbers.....if my car was losing 150hp and 200tq i personaly think my check engine light would be on becuase of limp mode... or my timing is off by a mile
