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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Has anybody heard anything about the new A class? Looking for specs, pictures, and on-sale date.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Re: New A Class

Originally posted by TNblkc230wz
Has anybody heard anything about the new A class? Looking for specs, pictures, and on-sale date.
Would people in the A Class forum know? I don't know a thing about it.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Re: New A Class

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Would people in the A Class forum know? I don't know a thing about it.
There is only one post in the A class forum in the last 60 days.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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they'll be over here in 05 i believe, as the 2nd gen Aclass
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by pokerFACE
they'll be over here in 05 i believe, as the 2nd gen Aclass
Sometimes, considering MB's US market postion as a "luxury" auto maker, I wonder if they will sell the A class as a Mercedes Benz or if they will sell it as a completely different marque, such as BMW does with the Mini, to avoid soiling their image by selling what will be perceived as an "economy" car.

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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trench, you make a good point. I remember reading somewhere that the A class would be sold under the Chrysler brand. Don't know if it's true though.

As for BMW, from what people are saying they have every intention of bringing the 1 and 2 series over to North America, and boosting the price of the 3 series. That would be a big mistake. North American consumers are a totally different animal from the rest of the world. MB and BMW will really hurt themselves with these lower series and classes.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by David N.
North American consumers are a totally different animal from the rest of the world. MB and BMW will really hurt themselves with these lower series and classes.
The main factor MB and BMW have to take into account is will they be able to sell enough "lower-class" models to offset the potential loss of customers who won't purchase higher-end models due to a perceived diluting of the brand.

This requires a serious consideration because there is much more profit made from the higher-end models. My guess is that in terms of actual build costs, the E Class and C Class probably cost MB about the same to manufacture (the difference is probably only a couple of thousand dollars at most), making that big difference in retail price almost all profit.

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Originally posted by David N.
trench, you make a good point. I remember reading somewhere that the A class would be sold under the Chrysler brand. Don't know if it's true though.

As for BMW, from what people are saying they have every intention of bringing the 1 and 2 series over to North America, and boosting the price of the 3 series. That would be a big mistake. North American consumers are a totally different animal from the rest of the world. MB and BMW will really hurt themselves with these lower series and classes.
The 1 series is gonna suck. It'll sell like hotcakes- for the 20-25K asking price, but its still gonna suck. Its got a wheezing 118HP motor, nasty ugly styling, and the rudest dealer network around. Not much of an enjoyable ownership experience there.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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saw one... i think

i swear i saw one of these coming up the hiway a couple of weeks ago. i lost it in traffic before i could get a good look. was really weird looking.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by pokerFACE
they'll be over here in 05 i believe, as the 2nd gen Aclass
Sweet I would love to buy one! I saw one in New Braunfels (sp?) TX. The car was from Mexico.

Very nice.

If we could only get out of the "bigger is better" auto mentality around here, I think that car would sell.

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Sorry Trench, but, you know, you sound exactly like those S or E class owners from a few years ago when MB decided to sell the C class in North America.

There was a lot of BS talk from E class drivers in US about MB dilluting the brand with the econobox C class. And where are we now? These guys need to grow up.


Originally posted by trench
Sometimes, considering MB's US market postion as a "luxury" auto maker, I wonder if they will sell the A class as a Mercedes Benz or if they will sell it as a completely different marque, such as BMW does with the Mini, to avoid soiling their image by selling what will be perceived as an "economy" car.

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 04:43 AM
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btw that A class is butt ugly
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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In Europe, when MB decided to sell the A-Class, a lot of people said it wasn't a Mercedes, just an economic car...
Well the A-Class have been sold for 6 years now and MB considers it as a success, because they sold more A-Class than what they tought.

My grandfather has one for 6 years. Not a single problem, running perfectly.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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I SAW A MB A190 in Virginia

I was flying back to San Diego and was on the way to the Airport (to return rental) and say this blue blob of a car with MB chrome star on back. It looked like someone put a very high pressure hose into a C230 Coupe and blue it up. Short and fat with lots of windows. I had to talk to the lady driving it and she said he company purchased a few of them because of the size and gas mileage.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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I hope they bring it here by 05, even if it is as a chrysler. I'll be shopping for a safe, solid, small car for my daughter in early 06. I don't think she will consider the current body style, but I've heard the new one should be a little more stylish. I don't need a real expensive or fast car for her, just something small and reasonably safe.
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Definitely will not be sold as a Chrysler - it is confirmed that the next-gen model is coming to the US in 2005 or '06 model year, along with the Smart ForFour.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by mbakshi
Definitely will not be sold as a Chrysler - it is confirmed that the next-gen model is coming to the US in 2005 or '06 model year, along with the Smart ForFour.
What is the "Smart ForFour"?
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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what kinda MPG does this smart car get?
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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What is the "Smart ForFour"?
The ForFour is Smart's new four-door four-passenger model (hence the name ForFour). Many of the platform's components will be used in Mitsubishi's new Colt (not for US).

See TechAutos' page on the ForFour for photos and info:

http://www.techautos.com/modules.php...article&sid=13
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Originally posted by mbakshi
The ForFour is Smart's new four-door four-passenger model (hence the name ForFour). Many of the platform's components will be used in Mitsubishi's new Colt (not for US).

See TechAutos' page on the ForFour for photos and info:
Nice looking little car. I'm just not sure about the two-tone paint scheme.
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When this car is on sale. Honda will go bankrupt. hehe....
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Re: New A Class

Originally posted by TNblkc230wz
Has anybody heard anything about the new A class? Looking for specs, pictures, and on-sale date.
Guys,
Check out this link http://c-klasse.mercedes-galerie.de/w169news.htm
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Nice Pics, but I need a translation!
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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Pls visit http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr for translation.


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