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Hi everyone, I am considering buying an AMG GT coupe or CLE63 to replace my F type. While searching for information, I found something interesting, The chassis of the SL/GT may also come from the C-Class like the CLE.
First of all, Mercedes-Benz admitted in its publicity that this generation of SL and GT share the same chassis structure, but there is no further explanation of the origin of this generation of chassis structure. Mercedes-Benz talked a lot about the various cutting-edge technologies used in the chassis of the previous generation of AMG GT and released a lot of media promotional materials. However, Mercedes-Benz rarely promoted the chassis information of this generation of Mercedes-Benz AMG GT/SL.
In the Youtube channel Throttle House, they made a video comparing the old and new AMG GTs. They pointed out that the Transaxle structure of the old AMG GT was abandoned in the new generation, the gearbox was changed from rear to front, and the engine was changed from dry sump M178 back to M177, And hinted that the new GT/SL chassis is actually based on the previous generation C-Class.
This is quite convincing to me, because when the new SL/GT was released, the large screen in the center console that was hard to ignore reminded me of the C-Class/CLE at first glance.
So I did some further research and the interior designer of the new SL/GT commented on social media a few years ago when the C-Class was launched, He said the interior of the new C-Class was developed simultaneously with the SL and GT, The time period is approximately 2016-2017. The air-conditioning vents on the new C-Class were originally designed for the SL and GT, which can be confirmed from the sketches shared by Gorden Wagener on social media. Why should the interior of a sports car and that of a four-door family car be designed at the same time and even interchange parts?
Then, doing further research, I saw a photo of an AMG GT (coupe) road test car with the tail label GT50, which is not released anywhere. Some people said that this is the inline 6-cylinder engine version that will be supplied exclusively to the Chinese market. Why is Mercedes-Benz willing to develop a new powertrain for the Chinese market, when the sales volume is not high? I wonder if Mercedes-Benz can directly transplant the L6 powertrain from CLE53 (also based on the C-Class chassis) at a low price.
In addition, I found that the new AMG GT COUPE/SL are both produced in the Bremen factory, same as CLE and C-Class. The previous generation AMG GT was produced at the Sindelfingen plant along with the S-Class and E-Class.
For me, it is not a bad thing for Mercedes to use the C-Class chassis to develop the GT/SL. After all, I don’t need a hardcore track car, but a luxurious and practical daily car. But if the CLE63 will also be equipped with a V8 engine and can be obtained at a cheaper price, then I may have to reconsider my choice of car, especially if they are developing on the same chassis.
If you have more reliable information, please share it.
Respectfully, I believe you’re over thinking this. Few cars start from a blank sheet of paper. You’ll find systems and structures using the same parts across the line up for many car markers. I also think concluding that the CLE with a V8 may be a disguised GT is a mistake.
Please post at least one, preferably two or three, credible links for each one of your claims. As you stated you have done the research. This should take you 5 minutes, or 6 minutes at the most. Thanks in advance.
I remember researching the new GT when it first appeared and the platform/chassis was unique/bespoke for only the current SL & GT.
Plenty of literature and "body in white" images etc. I found at the time.
Second, here is Social Media page of Zimo Yang: https://www.weibo.com/1910149170/K3j...7552，On this page he mentioned that the C-Class, AMG GT and SL interiors were developed simultaneously, Just Google Translate the entire page.
The rumor about GT50 coupe, Here are the picture.
As for the relocation of production lines, you can simply search"amg gt Sindelfingen" and "amg gt Bremen". Wikipedia also mentions it, but it doesn't mention whether it's the previous generation C190 or the C192 generation. But if you just flip through a few more pages of search results, I think you'll get the same answer. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...k_Sindelfingen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Werk_Bremen
Please post at least one, preferably two or three, credible links for each one of your claims. As you stated you have done the research. This should take you 5 minutes, or 6 minutes at the most. Thanks in advance.
Hi Chassis,
I have put the information I collected in the comment area. Since I am not very familiar with the operation of the forum, I will quote you manually here. Please check it out.
In addition, I got another interesting weighs data:
New SL63 - 4,321 lbs, Last gen C63S Carbiolet - 4,319 lbs, Last gen AMG GT C Roadster - 3,660 lbs.
I am looking forward to more information about the CLE63 after its release, including the body-in-white and engine-gearbox structure.
I remember researching the new GT when it first appeared and the platform/chassis was unique/bespoke for only the current SL & GT.
Plenty of literature and "body in white" images etc. I found at the time.
Thanks for your answer, please share them, it would be even better if you can compare them with the CLE body. But I think we can only find more clues after the V8 CLE63 is released.
Second, here is Social Media page of Zimo Yang: https://www.weibo.com/1910149170/K3j...7552，On this page he mentioned that the C-Class, AMG GT and SL interiors were developed simultaneously, Just Google Translate the entire page.
As for the relocation of production lines, you can simply search"amg gt Sindelfingen" and "amg gt Bremen". Wikipedia also mentions it, but it doesn't mention whether it's the previous generation C190 or the C192 generation. But if you just flip through a few more pages of search results, I think you'll get the same answer. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...k_Sindelfingen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Werk_Bremen
Thanks for your answer, please share them, it would be even better if you can compare them with the CLE body. But I think we can only find more clues after the V8 CLE63 is released.
It's been a while since it was released and I didn't keep any of the literature but just did a quick 1min search and this came up which can get you started
Hi everyone, I am considering buying an AMG GT coupe or CLE63 to replace my F type. While searching for information, I found something interesting, The chassis of the SL/GT may also come from the C-Class like the CLE.
First of all, Mercedes-Benz admitted in its publicity that this generation of SL and GT share the same chassis structure, but there is no further explanation of the origin of this generation of chassis structure. Mercedes-Benz talked a lot about the various cutting-edge technologies used in the chassis of the previous generation of AMG GT and released a lot of media promotional materials. However, Mercedes-Benz rarely promoted the chassis information of this generation of Mercedes-Benz AMG GT/SL.
In the Youtube channel Throttle House, they made a video comparing the old and new AMG GTs. They pointed out that the Transaxle structure of the old AMG GT was abandoned in the new generation, the gearbox was changed from rear to front, and the engine was changed from dry sump M178 back to M177, And hinted that the new GT/SL chassis is actually based on the previous generation C-Class.
This is quite convincing to me, because when the new SL/GT was released, the large screen in the center console that was hard to ignore reminded me of the C-Class/CLE at first glance.
So I did some further research and the interior designer of the new SL/GT commented on social media a few years ago when the C-Class was launched, He said the interior of the new C-Class was developed simultaneously with the SL and GT, The time period is approximately 2016-2017. The air-conditioning vents on the new C-Class were originally designed for the SL and GT, which can be confirmed from the sketches shared by Gorden Wagener on social media. Why should the interior of a sports car and that of a four-door family car be designed at the same time and even interchange parts?
Then, doing further research, I saw a photo of an AMG GT (coupe) road test car with the tail label GT50, which is not released anywhere. Some people said that this is the inline 6-cylinder engine version that will be supplied exclusively to the Chinese market. Why is Mercedes-Benz willing to develop a new powertrain for the Chinese market, when the sales volume is not high? I wonder if Mercedes-Benz can directly transplant the L6 powertrain from CLE53 (also based on the C-Class chassis) at a low price.
In addition, I found that the new AMG GT COUPE/SL are both produced in the Bremen factory, same as CLE and C-Class. The previous generation AMG GT was produced at the Sindelfingen plant along with the S-Class and E-Class.
For me, it is not a bad thing for Mercedes to use the C-Class chassis to develop the GT/SL. After all, I don’t need a hardcore track car, but a luxurious and practical daily car. But if the CLE63 will also be equipped with a V8 engine and can be obtained at a cheaper price, then I may have to reconsider my choice of car, especially if they are developing on the same chassis.
If you have more reliable information, please share it.
I did not go through this entire thread, but the CLE is on the newer/2 version of the MRA platform and is quite good from what I’ve been told.
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