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My Patagonia Red CLE 53 is due to arrive here soon.
How are people finding the Burmester sound system quality?
As an aside, I spec'd mine with the AMG performance seats. I didn't realize at the time that a few speakers are built in to the front seats. Not sure if I'll have that with the performance seats. Can anyone else attest?
My Patagonia Red CLE 53 is due to arrive here soon.
How are people finding the Burmester sound system quality?
As an aside, I spec'd mine with the AMG performance seats. I didn't realize at the time that a few speakers are built in to the front seats. Not sure if I'll have that with the performance seats. Can anyone else attest?
Thanks
Burmester is excellent system, you are going to like it...I have AMG performance seats and I don't believe is any additional speakers in them...
Not specifically for the CLE, but Burmester is an excellent sound system. I have it in my 2019 C63S Coupe. There are different versions. The one with the speakers in the seats is the 4D system, which is not what's in the CLE. The CLE has the 3D system, meaning surround sound. 4D adds an additional dimension with the sound through the seats that you can feel, rather than hear. The 3D system does surround and spatial sound. Ultimately with any sound system it comes down to the source quality and the interior of a performance car isn't exactly a concert hall. In an AMG, even a 53 you'll have increased NVH. Road noise due to low profile performance tires will be higher than in say something like a regular S Class. Frankly, I never bought a performance car for its sound system. It's nice to have, but I prefer to listen to the V8 in my case, and the exhaust. I mostly have the music at elevator music volume level. If I actually wanna listen to the music, I have to do it at fairly high volume to drown out the NVH of the car to the point where it gets so loud in the cabin that it becomes exhausting and stressful after a while. Granted the CLE 53 is a quieter car, so YMMV.
Not specifically for the CLE, but Burmester is an excellent sound system. I have it in my 2019 C63S Coupe. There are different versions. The one with the speakers in the seats is the 4D system, which is not what's in the CLE. The CLE has the 3D system, meaning surround sound. 4D adds an additional dimension with the sound through the seats that you can feel, rather than hear. The 3D system does surround and spatial sound. Ultimately with any sound system it comes down to the source quality and the interior of a performance car isn't exactly a concert hall. In an AMG, even a 53 you'll have increased NVH. Road noise due to low profile performance tires will be higher than in say something like a regular S Class. Frankly, I never bought a performance car for its sound system. It's nice to have, but I prefer to listen to the V8 in my case, and the exhaust. I mostly have the music at elevator music volume level. If I actually wanna listen to the music, I have to do it at fairly high volume to drown out the NVH of the car to the point where it gets so loud in the cabin that it becomes exhausting and stressful after a while. Granted the CLE 53 is a quieter car, so YMMV.
For the most part this is accurate. The 3D sounds great. However, my seats which are NOT performance seats has speakers in the seats themselves. I can hear them. The MB website also attests that speakers are in the seats themselves I don’t know what happens if you opt for performance seats. As to the 4D sounds my understanding is it likely also has a subwoofer in the seat so you can feel the sound. The MB website isn’t clear on exactly the type of speaker that is in the seat for 4D sound. Check out DM Sound on YouTube. He does a good review of car audio. He did one a year or so ago for the CLE 3D system. He also tested the 4D in the new E53. He actually liked the CLE 3D over the E 4D.
For the most part this is accurate. The 3D sounds great. However, my seats which are NOT performance seats has speakers in the seats themselves. I can hear them. The MB website also attests that speakers are in the seats themselves I don’t know what happens if you opt for performance seats. As to the 4D sounds my understanding is it likely also has a subwoofer in the seat so you can feel the sound. The MB website isn’t clear on exactly the type of speaker that is in the seat for 4D sound. Check out DM Sound on YouTube. He does a good review of car audio. He did one a year or so ago for the CLE 3D system. He also tested the 4D in the new E53. He actually liked the CLE 3D over the E 4D.
Yes, even in the CLE 53 online build configurator it makes note of the speakers being built in to the headrests. Strangely though, every for sale listing I'm seeing for CLE 53's on dealer websites all say 15 speakers, not 17, regardless of if the car has performance seats or not.
Note that in the build configurator, Mercedes lists the sound system as having 17 speakers:
Where as every dealer listing appears to show 15, regardless of spec.
I can't find a definitive answer on this. I have no doubt the sound system is fantastic, but there does appear to be a discrepancy between the build configuration and the actual speaker count advertised by (US) dealers.
Yes, even in the CLE 53 online build configurator it makes note of the speakers being built in to the headrests. Strangely though, every for sale listing I'm seeing for CLE 53's on dealer websites all say 15 speakers, not 17, regardless of if the car has performance seats or not.
Note that in the build configurator, Mercedes lists the sound system as having 17 speakers:
Where as every dealer listing appears to show 15, regardless of spec.
I can't find a definitive answer on this. I have no doubt the sound system is fantastic, but there does appear to be a discrepancy between the build configuration and the actual speaker count advertised by (US) dealers.
I wouldn’t trust the dealer website. I’ve found those to be fairly inaccurate.
On my CLE 53 I played with the EQ but never got it where I liked it. I used the Personal Sound Profile and after answered the questions I thought it sounded much better. I also opened up the surround within the PSP and found that made the spacial effect the best to me. All subjective of course. I find the CLE sound system to be very good. I can't really hear any speakers in the seats and I have the non-sport seats.
I think this is misinformation on the dealer/MB websites. There are several different Burmester systems, including two different 3D systems. They are listed on the Burmester website, including diagrams for each model showing where the speakers are located. The CLE isn't on there yet, but the CLE is based on the C Class, so most likely has the same Burmester system. It has only 15 speakers, none of them in the front seats. There's a High-End 3D system that has 17 to 26 speakers depending on the model, and is found in the E Class and up. The dealer/MB websites appear to be mixing and confusing the High-End 3D with the 3D Surround System in some places. The CLE has the 3D Surround System even according to MBUSA, so same as the C Class, not the High-End 3D system with at least 17 speakers.
I’m like 99% we have the 17 in ours. My assumption is that even the Burmester website is still not showing the latest systems. This guy does a great review and at 12:40 he talks about the 17 speakers.
The amp and the Dsp unit are in the trunk under the liner where the battery is. Very easy to remove the liner and see the wires. I can see 2 optical inputs,power, and some speaker out wirres.
I am sure we have limited number of speakers because ours is a Coupe.
Does anyone have or can get the wiring diagram of these wires? (Mbux C236)
I am planning to install an amp and a sub in the trunk.
Thanks in advance
The amp and the Dsp unit are in the trunk under the liner where the battery is. Very easy to remove the liner and see the wires. I can see 2 optical inputs,power, and some speaker out wirres.
I am sure we have limited number of speakers because ours is a Coupe.
Does anyone have or can get the wiring diagram of these wires? (Mbux C236)
I am planning to install an amp and a sub in the trunk.
Thanks in advance
Agree here. This definitely needs a sub. I thought the sound on my CLE 53 would be better than others I own (LR Defender, and F250 Lariat), and both others have more range. I don't like loud music, but I like full range quality. I'd be interested in how you approach this.
Many think factory name brand factory systems are great. I am not one of them.
More speakers - 15, 17, 22, 34 equals better sound. Nope. Best systems only have five. Front satellites (2-way) and one sub. A real 12-inch sub.
I do agree the Burmester CLE system is probably the best factory system I have heard but not good enough for me.
This Wednesday I am having my CLE AMG 53 system analyzed for frequency spectrum to determine what needs to be modified to make the audio system to my liking. I have a thread already started on my upgrade journey.
Recently took delivery of my 2026 CLE53 and while I really like the system, it rattles interior panels even with flat bass levels at reasonable volume. My Winter vehicle is a Ford Explorer ST and doesn't do this, so was a bit disappointed it happens at this price point. Going to see what the dealer can do about it, but beyond that I'll probably be looking to have sound mat installed in the doors.
Recently took delivery of my 2026 CLE53 and while I really like the system, it rattles interior panels even with flat bass levels at reasonable volume. My Winter vehicle is a Ford Explorer ST and doesn't do this, so was a bit disappointed it happens at this price point. Going to see what the dealer can do about it, but beyond that I'll probably be looking to have sound mat installed in the doors.
ive “flexed” my stereo a few times but never had that issue. Def see if the dealer can do anything
Sound system is great. Very clear and loud. If you do a personal profile, you can adjust and fine tune everything and make it really loud and clear with a lot of bass.
QUOTE=h1k3;9151428]Hey folks,
My Patagonia Red CLE 53 is due to arrive here soon.
How are people finding the Burmester sound system quality?
As an aside, I spec'd mine with the AMG performance seats. I didn't realize at the time that a few speakers are built in to the front seats. Not sure if I'll have that with the performance seats. Can anyone else attest?
Sound system is great. Very clear and loud. If you do a personal profile, you can adjust and fine tune everything and make it really loud and clear with a lot of bass.
QUOTE=h1k3;9151428]Hey folks,
My Patagonia Red CLE 53 is due to arrive here soon.
How are people finding the Burmester sound system quality?
As an aside, I spec'd mine with the AMG performance seats. I didn't realize at the time that a few speakers are built in to the front seats. Not sure if I'll have that with the performance seats. Can anyone else attest?
Thanks
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The Burmester system is much better than the one that was in my wife's 2018 E400 coup.
Recently took delivery of my 2026 CLE53 and while I really like the system, it rattles interior panels even with flat bass levels at reasonable volume. My Winter vehicle is a Ford Explorer ST and doesn't do this, so was a bit disappointed it happens at this price point. Going to see what the dealer can do about it, but beyond that I'll probably be looking to have sound mat installed in the doors.
Just in case anyone else runs into this, I found the source - The carpet panel right behind the brake pedal is rattling in front of the subwoofer there, and it's loud enough to seem like it's in the dash or door. That'll be an easy fix. When it's held down the rest of the system sounds superb.
Recently took delivery of my 2026 CLE53 and while I really like the system, it rattles interior panels even with flat bass levels at reasonable volume. My Winter vehicle is a Ford Explorer ST and doesn't do this, so was a bit disappointed it happens at this price point. Going to see what the dealer can do about it, but beyond that I'll probably be looking to have sound mat installed in the doors.
Does anyone know whether Mercedes' 4d sound system is an option on this car? My friend has it, but I haven't heard it. He said it's like having subwoofers in your seats and they're a bunch of extra speakers. I wonder if that would fill and take care of everyone's concerns about the sound, the range, ETC
Does anyone know whether Mercedes' 4d sound system is an option on this car? My friend has it, but I haven't heard it. He said it's like having subwoofers in your seats and they're a bunch of extra speakers. I wonder if that would fill and take care of everyone's concerns about the sound, the range, ETC
Currently not, but still has a lot of speakers for such a small interior in my opinion. The bass is plenty fine for me, and I listen to a lot of electronic stuff with big low end, but I admire what others here did to amp it up. Once that panel is fixed I'm going to absolutely love it. the personal sound profile really helps, especially being able to move the spacial position rearward.
Currently not, but still has a lot of speakers for such a small interior in my opinion. The bass is plenty fine for me, and I listen to a lot of electronic stuff with big low end, but I admire what others here did to amp it up. Once that panel is fixed I'm going to absolutely love it. the personal sound profile really helps, especially being able to move the spacial position rearward.
I agree it's an excellent system to begin with. I have an s580 as well and it has the same sound system. It sounds a lot better in the CLE 53 because it's a smaller interior.
I like lower end base as well and I installed sound systems and all of my cars in the past. I would also buy a bigger rims and lower my cars. I am now 46 years old and a little past that phase now. Mercedes has definitely listened and stepped it up with bigger rims, better sound system, etc compared to the past.
I'm still interested In sound systems, rims, suspension, etc and would love to hear how it goes. Maybe I can pass down the tradition to my children 😂😂.. Thanks
I agree it's an excellent system to begin with. I have an s580 as well and it has the same sound system. It sounds a lot better in the CLE 53 because it's a smaller interior.
I like lower end base as well and I installed sound systems and all of my cars in the past. I would also buy a bigger rims and lower my cars. I am now 46 years old and a little past that phase now. Mercedes has definitely listened and stepped it up with bigger rims, better sound system, etc compared to the past.
I'm still interested In sound systems, rims, suspension, etc and would love to hear how it goes. Maybe I can pass down the tradition to my children 😂😂.. Thanks
Does everybody know there's a setting for the sound system where you can make your own personal settings? It gives you a bunch of extra options and a box/matrix pops up where you can move your finger towards the left, right, up, down, diagonally, etc. You can perfectly adjust the sound and it makes it a lot louder and clearer.
Just wanted to know if anyone else knows about it. My friend has had a Mercedes S Class for a year and he didn't know about it until I showed him. Lol
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