MBWORLD member sicrx65 Involved in Fatal car accident.
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If he knew that he would not be able to make that turn I'm sure he would have pulled over and waited for the cop.We can act like the smartest people after the fact .He was a young man and he made a mistake that cost him his life .He was a member of this forum and calling him names without him being here to defend his actions is not right ,we as fellow members should be kind to each other anyway.The best way we all can honor him is to wear seatbelts .
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Originally Posted by RobertG
If he knew that he would not be able to make that turn I'm sure he would have pulled over and waited for the cop.We can act like the smartest people after the fact .He was a young man and he made a mistake that cost him his life .He was a member of this forum and calling him names without him being here to defend his actions is not right ,we as fellow members should be kind to each other anyway.The best way we all can honor him is to wear seatbelts .
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You are right too, as a matter of fact , if he was to make that turn and get away from the cop we all would have been reading his story here on the forum- except a story with a happier ending.It is very difficult to stop a teenager from speeding, I was one myself and very rarely I drove the speed limit, what helped me to slow down was many speeding tickets and heafty fines.There is time and place for everything and speeding in a dangerous area is not one of them ,again a mistake on his part that I'm sure he would like to take back.
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
....the probable outcome from attempting to evade law enforcement or anyone else at high speed on a public road is accident, injury, incarceration, court proceedings, ...and death. Never run from the cops. Nothing that they, or the courts, or even jail or prison time can do to you is more devastating or permanent than death.
Just because I got away with it so many times. Just because some of you on the forum have gotten away with it some number of times, doesn't change the current reality of high-speed police pursuits. Don't do it! It's not worth it!
I'll get off my soapbox now.....
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Originally Posted by E55AMG99
Get off your high horses, people and come down to reality. This immature young adult had many chances to avoid this situation. The first of which was to use a damn seat belt. How many of you have seen the statistics about lack of seatbelt use? Wasn't he 17 years old? Anyone been to driver training as recent as him (last 12-18 months)? I guess he wasn't paying attention or didn't beleive the information to be credible. The second way he could have avoided the situation was to pull over for the police and accept the consequences of his actions. Instead, he chose to not only risk (end) his life but to endanger that of his passenger and everyone on the street that night. You or someone you love could have been injured that night by his selfish and senseless actions. You are all here acting like he was some great friend when in reality, he was just another spoiled brat with Internet annonymity. Sure, some of you have conversed with him personally and even met him but does that really give you the clear conscience to wash away his stupidity and irresponsibility? You all laugh at the "Darwin Award" nominees who, through thier own stupidity, lose their lives but you have sympathy for this guy? Different kind of action, same kind of moron.
I have much sympathy for his family.
I have much sympathy for his family.
we already know he made a bad decision by not putting on his seatbelt. respect his situation and keep the negativity to your damn self.
are you jealous that he was lucky enough to drive/own a mercedes at his age? if not, then why the ****** hate? i'm sure he was grateful with what he had because, i too, am young and grateful for what i have. i'm young and i paid for my own car.
it's best if you just leave this thread because i don't think anyone wants to hear any of your bs. kthnxbye
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
stfu
we already know he made a bad decision by not putting on his seatbelt. respect his situation and keep the negativity to your damn self.
are you jealous that he was lucky enough to drive a mercedes at his age? if not, then why the ****** hate? i'm sure he was grateful with what he had because, i too, am young and grateful for what i have. i'm young and i paid for my own car.
it's best if you just leave this thread because i don't think anyone wants to hear any of your bs. kthnxbye
we already know he made a bad decision by not putting on his seatbelt. respect his situation and keep the negativity to your damn self.
are you jealous that he was lucky enough to drive a mercedes at his age? if not, then why the ****** hate? i'm sure he was grateful with what he had because, i too, am young and grateful for what i have. i'm young and i paid for my own car.
it's best if you just leave this thread because i don't think anyone wants to hear any of your bs. kthnxbye
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Originally Posted by E55AMG99
Respect? How can one repsect an individual who by his own actions has no respect for himself nor others? Grow up Terry. You, unlike our dear departed have more to learn in life before you can come here and tell me to STFU. He, unfortunately learned his last lesson the hard way.
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
and i guess everyone who's also saying that you need to respect the situation, also needs to grow up? tell me what i need to learn in life? you seem to think you know more than me. go ahead and preach to me the ways of life.
My tone may be too harsh for some of you to deal with but like I've said many times before, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. If he had been wearing his seatbelt and obeying the law and he still died, I'd be right along with all of you publicly mourning him. His death is indeed tragic but it does not change the fact that he made several (insert offensive adjective here) mistakes that would have prevented the whole thing.
Again, my condolences to his family. Grieve for them. They are the ones that have to live with what he has done.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG99
Well, if you haven't learned anything from this situation, you are no smarter than sicrx65. Maybe after high school you wil be forced to live in the real world and earn a living. Hopefully, before you bring kids of your own into this world you will have learned from mistakes like his. If you want to know the ways of life, volunteer at your local trauma center or volunteer to assist the family of someone who survived a crash like this only to be a quadrapalegic or severly brain damaged for life.
My tone may be too harsh for some of you to deal with but like I've said many times before, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. If he had been wearing his seatbelt and obeying the law and he still died, I'd be right along with all of you publicly mourning him. His death is indeed tragic but it does not change the fact that he made several (insert offensive adjective here) mistakes that would have prevented the whole thing.
Again, my condolences to his family. Grieve for them. They are the ones that have to live with what he has done.
My tone may be too harsh for some of you to deal with but like I've said many times before, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. If he had been wearing his seatbelt and obeying the law and he still died, I'd be right along with all of you publicly mourning him. His death is indeed tragic but it does not change the fact that he made several (insert offensive adjective here) mistakes that would have prevented the whole thing.
Again, my condolences to his family. Grieve for them. They are the ones that have to live with what he has done.
first off, i'm out of highschool... been out for a couple years, you don't know me. i've paid my way for the last year and a half.. that would include my cars + toys.
secondly, it's pretty obvious that he was not doing the right thing if he were running from the authorities. do you really feel it is necessary to state it over and over again, then call him a dumbass and an idiot?
the fact of the matter is, you are the one that needs to grow up. you don't know me or what i do to help my community so do not speak as if everyone around you is as ignorant as yourself. feel free to rebuttal further.. as for me.. i feel the conflict in this thread is completely disrespectful to the late Shin.
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Originally Posted by myNAMESterry
you must think i'm a pretty ignorant person by the way you're labeling me.
first off, i'm out of highschool... been out for a couple years, you don't know me. i've paid my way for the last year and a half.. that would include my cars + toys.
secondly, it's pretty obvious that he was not doing the right thing if he were running from the authorities. do you really feel it is necessary to state it over and over again, then call him a dumbass and an idiot?
the fact of the matter is, you are the one that needs to grow up. you don't know me or what i do to help my community so do not speak as if everyone around you is as ignorant as yourself. feel free to rebuttal further.. as for me.. i feel the conflict in this thread is completely disrespectful to the late Shin.
first off, i'm out of highschool... been out for a couple years, you don't know me. i've paid my way for the last year and a half.. that would include my cars + toys.
secondly, it's pretty obvious that he was not doing the right thing if he were running from the authorities. do you really feel it is necessary to state it over and over again, then call him a dumbass and an idiot?
the fact of the matter is, you are the one that needs to grow up. you don't know me or what i do to help my community so do not speak as if everyone around you is as ignorant as yourself. feel free to rebuttal further.. as for me.. i feel the conflict in this thread is completely disrespectful to the late Shin.
If you feel the conflict is in this thread disrespectful, then feel free to stop at any time.
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I cant believe this.....unreal...so sad
:o Just reading this now and am really struck deeply......*wipes eye*......I would like the family to know that iggnorance, like my own, will change, and lives will be saved from the reading of this absolute tragedy! God Bless....
RIP-sicrx65!!!
RIP-sicrx65!!!
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E55AMG99, when dealing with situations where the parties involved are deceased, I believe a little respect should be given. Theres a difference between respectfully showing his faults, and immaturely doing so; & your a fool if you believe you've shown an ounce of respect or maturity in this case. You're telling us to get off our "horses" but I dont believe we're the ones on.
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Originally Posted by Lexani
E55AMG99, when dealing with situations where the parties involved are deceased, I believe a little respect should be given. Theres a difference between respectfully showing his faults, and immaturely doing so; & your a fool if you believe you've shown an ounce of respect or maturity in this case. You're telling us to get off our "horses" but I dont believe we're the ones on.
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i've been reading this forum and what happen is very sad. But in all honesty, you almost always have a 2nd choice. If the recently departed knew he was going to die, do you think he would've made that fatal decision? i think there are too many instances when nobody thinks more than 3 seconds ahead of their egos or selfish impulses. It's very sad that this one decision cost the guy his life. RIP.
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I am deeply sorry for the loss of this young man. E55AMG99 ease up a bit, he was only 17. We in this country understand that teenagers are not alwasy capable of making the correct decision, especially under pressure, that's why they (teenagers) don't have the full rights that adults in this country do. (ie. drinking, voting, owning property)
He was a child, leave the name calling out of it, we have all made stupid mistakes when we were kids, we were just blessed enough to survive them. This young man's lose it tragic, but I think ALL of you, especially you parents out there are missing a strong lesson his death can teach us....
that there is no way a 17 year old should be out a 4 a.m. in the morning. Parents please have rules and limits set for your children, when they can't or won't make good decisions in judgement, many many times the rules you have set for them can save their lives.
If this has offended anyone, I apologize, but being a High School Educator, I am deeply hurt when we loose one of our young ones.
R.I.P and may God bless and watch over the family and friends.
He was a child, leave the name calling out of it, we have all made stupid mistakes when we were kids, we were just blessed enough to survive them. This young man's lose it tragic, but I think ALL of you, especially you parents out there are missing a strong lesson his death can teach us....
that there is no way a 17 year old should be out a 4 a.m. in the morning. Parents please have rules and limits set for your children, when they can't or won't make good decisions in judgement, many many times the rules you have set for them can save their lives.
If this has offended anyone, I apologize, but being a High School Educator, I am deeply hurt when we loose one of our young ones.
R.I.P and may God bless and watch over the family and friends.
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E55AMG99, you must understand, its about presentation. For example, me I can say you are being rude, and "sugar-coat" you being an a$$ hole. Or I can just call you the former; they both say the same thing, but you are more likely to respond nicer to the "rude" rather the "a$$". Nothing personal, but I believe you could have gotten your message across all the same w/out the inept language, and still leave room for a respectful discussion in regards to Shin's actions.
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Originally Posted by Lexani
E55AMG99, you must understand, its about presentation. For example, me I can say you are being rude, and "sugar-coat" you being an a$$ hole. Or I can just call you the former; they both say the same thing, but you are more likely to respond nicer to the "rude" rather the "a$$". Nothing personal, but I believe you could have gotten your message across all the same w/out the inept language, and still leave room for a respectful discussion in regards to Shin's actions.
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My he rest in peace and his family cope with this huge loss. This is very sad and I hope that lots of people will just slow down some in general after reading this thread.
I wish that parents would realize that children don't need to drive such powerful cars. Bought yourself or not, it does not make you responsible enough to drive it. Over 18 and out of the house, nothing I can do. Live in my house and drive once your 16. Old POS volvo for you!
Please everyone, slow down some.
I wish that parents would realize that children don't need to drive such powerful cars. Bought yourself or not, it does not make you responsible enough to drive it. Over 18 and out of the house, nothing I can do. Live in my house and drive once your 16. Old POS volvo for you!
Please everyone, slow down some.
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Originally Posted by B-Mac
My he rest in peace and his family cope with this huge loss. This is very sad and I hope that lots of people will just slow down some in general after reading this thread.
I wish that parents would realize that children don't need to drive such powerful cars. Bought yourself or not, it does not make you responsible enough to drive it. Over 18 and out of the house, nothing I can do. Live in my house and drive once your 16. Old POS volvo for you!
Please everyone, slow down some.
I wish that parents would realize that children don't need to drive such powerful cars. Bought yourself or not, it does not make you responsible enough to drive it. Over 18 and out of the house, nothing I can do. Live in my house and drive once your 16. Old POS volvo for you!
Please everyone, slow down some.
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I also was not trying to place any blame on the parents. Just hoping that current and future parents might take this into account when purchasing cars for thier children.
It's not to say that there are not some kids out there that are responsible enough, just not the majority.
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It's not to say that there are not some kids out there that are responsible enough, just not the majority.
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Originally Posted by benzmodz
Was it Ralph Nader (sp?) who brought European style safety into in American automotive design.
Who is the grandfather of American automotive legislation and litigation against the big 3. I saw the story in great detail on TV, can remember the famous cases.
40,000 .... thats a lot of tax payers, a lot of parents and a whole pile of knowledge.
I have always been a Toffler fan myself.
Who is the grandfather of American automotive legislation and litigation against the big 3. I saw the story in great detail on TV, can remember the famous cases.
40,000 .... thats a lot of tax payers, a lot of parents and a whole pile of knowledge.
I have always been a Toffler fan myself.
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Originally Posted by B-Mac
I wish that parents would realize that children don't need to drive such powerful cars. Bought yourself or not, it does not make you responsible enough to drive it. Over 18 and out of the house, nothing I can do. Live in my house and drive once your 16. Old POS volvo for you!
Please everyone, slow down some.
Please everyone, slow down some.
I bought my son, after 3 years of successful A+(s) in High School, a SRT-10 Viper. The truck, not the two seater, regardless, the vehicle still has 500HP. Why did I buy it for him besides the fact he merited it? Because I realized, you don't have to have power in a car to crash it.
The vehicle which our young ones drive having nothing to do with fatal accidents-- yes, having a Ferrari helps, but I'm willing to bet hands down, a Geo Metro can scratch 80.
Can it not?
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John its different for you as you are pretty involved in your sons life, right down to knowing whats on his myspace page...
Some parents feel better putting there cars in something like a camry that cant spin tires or easily lose control off the line
Some parents feel better putting there cars in something like a camry that cant spin tires or easily lose control off the line
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Lexani, I see your point that any vehicle can be dangerous...the way I see it though is that a car with 500 hp (not that your son can't handle that...every child is different...so I'm not attacking you here) encourages some young people (and adults alike) who are irresponsible to drive much faster and more recklessly than a car with say 115-150 hp. IMO. It ultimately is a parents' responsibility to decide what car their young person can handle...but I think as a generalization, most young people are not responsible enough and don't have enough experience to handle a car with a lot of power.
