211E55 engine transplant in 208 possible?
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211E55 engine transplant in 208 possible?
I know anything is possible but a better question would be, is it reasonable? Has anyone done this before? Of course you would have to replace the ECU and tranny along with the engine but would it work?
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Originally Posted by ThrillKill
You'd probably have to redo your suspension up front too, huh?
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I know anything is possible but a better question would be, is it reasonable? Has anyone done this before? Of course you would have to replace the ECU and tranny along with the engine but would it work?
There was a thread that I was reading last week about a guy who put a C32 engine in his C230 coupe.
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Although thats a very cool transplant its a little different than putting an E55 motor into a clk. I saw a couple C43 with 210 E55 engine transplants over the weekend and thought maybe I can get a 211 E55 motor in my clk.
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i think its entirely possible. Just takes time and money. I've done a few hours of research into it and decided it wasn't going to be worth it for me. Expenses would run around $20,000 , but ultimately depends on how much you get the w211 e55 engine and tranny and ecu for.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Although thats a very cool transplant its a little different than putting an E55 motor into a clk. I saw a couple C43 with 210 E55 engine transplants over the weekend and thought maybe I can get a 211 E55 motor in my clk.
You could bore and stroke your 4.3L then supercharge it...
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
I don't follow, the principle is still the same. Big engine-small hole, pshek has run into a lot of the same pitfalls you would in this mod.
You could bore and stroke your 4.3L then supercharge it...
You could bore and stroke your 4.3L then supercharge it...
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A W211 E55K engine will fit in your W208, since it basically shares the same engine block. Only difference is the internals and it has a supercharger on top of the intake manifold. It will cost a lot of money, and the deciding factor is whether or not you can get a good deal on a good E55K motor. I think you should seriously consider getting a Vortech supercharger and doing a little head work on your 430 motor. House of Power made 440 rwhp/414 torque on a 2001 S55. It had Josh R's Type C1 kit, headwork, cams, exhaust, headers; and it sounded like a beast on the dyno. With Josh R's Type C1 kit, you will make more power than Kleeman. Both Josh R and Josh K have the Type C1 Vortech kit on their W208. If you go the Vortech route, you'll make about the same power end result. ECU programming is not easy; the electronics will be the hardest, mechanical work is easy bolt on.
Have you done any ECU tuning yet? If so, who did you get to do it?
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I was trying to keep my "little" secret, top secret until I actually started the engine swap. I was going to wait a bit for more 63s to come out, so I could possible get the 55k motor for a little less. If I could get my hands on a 63 motor, that would be ideal.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
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Originally Posted by 55 ON IT
I was trying to keep my "little" secret, top secret until I actually started the engine swap. I was going to wait a bit for more 63s to come out, so I could possible get the 55k motor for a little less. If I could get my hands on a 63 motor, that would be ideal.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
If they do it, then more power to them. Bet that engine's gonna add a lot of weight to the front of the car.
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Originally Posted by 55 ON IT
I was trying to keep my "little" secret, top secret until I actually started the engine swap. I was going to wait a bit for more 63s to come out, so I could possible get the 55k motor for a little less. If I could get my hands on a 63 motor, that would be ideal.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
BTW, there's also a W203 with tt S600 motor in the works.
Pshek- Thanks for your advice, it always helps when you get advice from someone who's been down the path. Your C32 (or whatever its called now) is sick! How much whp has HOP been able to squeeze out of a 430 engine and how much does it cost? Thanks
ClkE20- Yea, I have a serious problem. I just cant stop. I've had 5 different sets of rims since the beginning of summer!
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Good work though in spite of the sickness. I hope to get there one day lol. Seriously though you got it bad. Soon youre going to have a clk Gallardo ($$$) LOL. At least you have a passion for a cool hobby.
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I think you should be able to make 400 rwhp on a vortech type C1 kit with a little headwork and cams. Josh R and Josh K's 430s made about 380 rwhp just with the kit alone. His Type C1 kit is about $9000.
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A V12 biturbo engine in a regular w203 chassis? Uh, that's gonna be a tight fit. If they do it, then more power to them. Bet that engine's gonna add a lot of weight to the front of the car.
If they do it, then more power to them. Bet that engine's gonna add a lot of weight to the front of the car.
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Originally Posted by 55 ON IT
Well, it's a W203 C55. The v12 if I remember correctly is a 5.5 liter as well, compared to the 5.4 v8. Tight fit nonetheless, but very possible. Handling, isn't a priority to them I would assume, but no doubt if this car gets done, it will be an extremely scary fast fun car.
pshek- 9 grand for 380whp? I think I'd prefer to sell my car and put the 9 grand on top as a down payment on a E55. Do they have any 1/4 mile numbers?
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The V12 biturbo is a 5.5L but with 4 extra cylinders. The engine is massive.
pshek- 9 grand for 380whp? I think I'd prefer to sell my car and put the 9 grand on top as a down payment on a E55. Do they have any 1/4 mile numbers?
pshek- 9 grand for 380whp? I think I'd prefer to sell my car and put the 9 grand on top as a down payment on a E55. Do they have any 1/4 mile numbers?
You know I was about to blast your a$$ if you didn't edit your original post! LOL! Just playin man! I know the v12 is no where near ideal for a small car, but it's not going in my car either. If I were you I would just get an w211 e55. I'm just lucky enough to have access to one whenever I please. Like the w208 CLK55, in my opinion the w211 E55 is a classic in the making.
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yea it would be nice to buy a complete amg 55 power train(eng.,trans.,rear end, driveshafts,ecu and complete wirering harness) on cheap. cant remenber ,but the pricing was about 10,000 to 15,000 dollars for eng. and tranny !! now I was thinking of the 5.0L M113 and a supercharger. the 5.0
(303 cubic inch) vs a 430(260 cubic inch) has a 43 cubic inch displacement advantage and still rev up fast like the 430 and has a complete forged rotating assembly like the 4.3L/5.4L. This engine sould be more availlable than the amg55, and chearper. just a idea
(303 cubic inch) vs a 430(260 cubic inch) has a 43 cubic inch displacement advantage and still rev up fast like the 430 and has a complete forged rotating assembly like the 4.3L/5.4L. This engine sould be more availlable than the amg55, and chearper. just a idea
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Originally Posted by 55 ON IT
You know I was about to blast your a$$ if you didn't edit your original post! LOL! Just playin man! I know the v12 is no where near ideal for a small car, but it's not going in my car either. If I were you I would just get an w211 e55. I'm just lucky enough to have access to one whenever I please. Like the w208 CLK55, in my opinion the w211 E55 is a classic in the making.
So instead of putting in an N/A V12 like Renntech CLK GTX, would it be possible fit a V12TT into the w208 engine bay?
