I have the opportunity to purchase an amg charger from a c32. Will it bolt over to my stock clk 320? I sure hope so. Any and all info will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

 

Do a search via the search function. This question has been dicussed before and the quick answer is that the C32 engine internally is quite a bit more beefed up than the C320 engine. Your best bet would be to go for a Kleemann supercharger which is made for the C320 engine in the first place.

 

an AMG kompressor from a C32 will not fit on the CLK320 engine.

Thats for sure. I've asked before and the answer simply was NO WAY!!

 

A company in CA claimed that it would be a easy substitute to the Kleemann Supercharger. Last I heard, they abandoned the project, saying it couldn't be done. It can be done, but it would cost much more in parts, labor, fabrication, and testing than a Kleemann Supercharger.

The 320 and 32 are not the same engines. The 32 is made to handle the big boost that the AMG supercharger places on it. Simply put: AMG Supercharger + CLK320= Nice fireworks show.

 

will the C230K komperssor kit the CLK320 ??

 

If I were you, for a maximum security and a total pleasure, I would go for a 3.8 S brabus engine kit. It will cost you 15000$ (installed).

 

The supercharger is the same, however there are minor differences which are taken care of by specifying which car you have when ordering.

 

Half the power for twice the cost?

 

so the C230k supercharge will not fit CLK320 ? i thought C230k work like the HPS one

 

I heard that 3.8 s brabus is not available in US, it is only available in Europe.

 

I've found that the bolt pattern will work on the stock 3.2 litre engine and all that will need to be fabricated is the intake tubing and a new belt. My installer says that he might have to change the injectors for more fuel. I think the reason everyone says it will not work is because the stock engine will not tolerate the stress of 340 hp. We will change that factor by simply changing the size of the drive pulley to produce slightly less boost. I will have around 315-320 hp with a stock "AMG" look for only a fraction of the $20,000 price tag. Any comments?

 

I hate to be cynical, but it is far from that easy. How is your ECU going to recognize the new airflow and deliver the proper amount of boost? How low of boost are you going to run before it is pointless? HPS ran 4 lbs boost on Timster's CLK55, and was still running lean. What about the intercooler? Those parts alone in addition to the fabrication to make the intake already put you over the cost of the Kleemann Supercharger.

You will not be able to maintain 315-320hp without spending at least $15,000. There are far more parts than I've listed that would be needed in order to get the power properly (without killing your engine). In my opinion, it's not worth the risk.

 

I've found that the bolt pattern will work on the stock 3.2 litre engine and all that will need to be fabricated is the intake tubing and a new belt. My installer says that he might have to change the injectors for more fuel. I think the reason everyone says it will not work is because the stock engine will not tolerate the stress of 340 hp. We will change that factor by simply changing the size of the drive pulley to produce slightly less boost. I will have around 315-320 hp with a stock "AMG" look for only a fraction of the $20,000 price tag. Any comments?

 

The shop I am having installed the charger has a computer and can re-map my ecu real-time and on a dyno. It will not run too lean because of the ecu remap, and the bigger fuel injectors. My engine won't handle the 4 lbs of boost from an amg charger but it will handle the bolt-on boost of a kleemann charger that claims, I believe, to be around 320 hp?

 

There is a big difference between the Kleemann Supercharger System (it's not just a supercharger), and the supercharger on the AMG C32. The Kleemann Supercharger can run off 7.25 lbs of boost because it is properly intercooled. You will not find a better intercooler design than that of Kleemann's. Simply forcing air in and adding gas is not necessarily the key to success. You will still run lean because you have no way to keep the air cool. Use Timster's car as an example. At less than 4lbs of boost, he was lean. Running less than that is pointless for the money you are about to spend. You'd be better off with some underdrive pulleys.

I have yet to find a Mercedes shop that can custom tune each car properly. This is not BMW, and even they need special software to perform this. Can your tuner completely break down the code, and rewrite it?

Again, I'm not trying to be cynical, I'm trying to keep you from what I think will become a very expensive mistake. Sure, I stand to benefit if you were to buy a supercharger from me, but that is not my intentions to posting. I just hate to see companies claim that something is so easy... After all, it's not their car!

There was an excellent thread on this in Benzsport before, however that forum and post are no more. Brandon from Kleemann listed over $17,000 of parts needed to make the car function properly; at less boost.

As a tuner, as a CLK owner, and as a MBWorlder, I think you are asking for trouble. But if you must do this, good luck. Make sure you get an agreement in writing as to who will cover any additional costs of part fabrications and repairs. You will be stepping out of warranty, and without a guarantee, you may be left on your own to replace anything gone wrong. It cost Kleemann close to a million dollars to design 1 supercharger system for the V6 C Class. Granted, there is much to their design, but do you think a few thousand will be enough to get quality and reliability?

 

i would spend the money on bolt on items...they are much more reliable, and in the end you will be pleased with the result...btw how much do you have to spend....after all this hps situation i would look into a kleemann system for you if you are serious about getting hp out of your car

edit....i think its best to do it right the first time...i have spent alot of money on crappy DIY projects that didnt go as planned (anyone have use for 4 oe w202 grills )

 

don't think the amg blower will work for base 320. The Kleemann is the way to go if you want to s/c your 320 engine. Or find Brabus at Newport Beach, CA.

 

Hold on guys, as far as i can recall.... the C230K is 4 cylinder engine and the CLK320 is a V6. So its impossible to use the same kompressor! Am i right?

 

I think you're correct, even if it fits, it'll take quite a bit of time and money to make this happen.

-Bruce

 

He is taking one from a C32 to use on his CLK320.

 

I've found that the bolt pattern will work on the stock 3.2 litre engine and all that will need to be fabricated is the intake tubing and a new belt. My installer says that he might have to change the injectors for more fuel. I think the reason everyone says it will not work is because the stock engine will not tolerate the stress of 340 hp. We will change that factor by simply changing the size of the drive pulley to produce slightly less boost. I will have around 315-320 hp with a stock "AMG" look for only a fraction of the $20,000 price tag. Any comments?

...............the Kleemann s/c for CLK320 is about $10,000 installed. NOT $20,000.

Ted

 

In reply to the post above, they are the exact same motors with the acception of the few extra parts to beef up the c32 to handle the xtra hp. For a while I thought the new clk's were going to be offered with that option.

 

I don't know if the 3.8s is just available in europe but the main point when you want to upgrade your car is security. We don't talk about an old civic here, it's a W208. You will find less expensive than brabus but there are the only one who can provide you a total guarantee and the feeling that you have just bought a standard CLK with an engine coming from MB. There are the only one who can create the same feeling that a standard MB engine but with more power.

 

All Mercedes-Benz V6 engine's utilize the same engine block, however, the C32 AMG V6 is more than just the "the exact same motor with the acception of the few extra parts to beef up the C32 to handle the (e)xtra HP." Crankshaft, pistons, con-rods, block reinforcements, etc. The modifications to the engine are much, much more extensive than a "few extra parts". Compression is lowered because the intercooler AMG uses is a standard radiator type heat exchanger, and quite inefficient, not to mention the huge pressure drop over it. In order for one to retro-fit a C32 kompressor onto any other engine other than a C32 V6, you need to tear down the motor, and replace everything that AMG replaces if you hope to produce the same power as a C32. The KLEEMANN system is non-intrusive, and will produce 330 HP all day long. The KLEEMANN system is priced at $9800 inclusive of installation. $87.00 per HP??? Sounds like a deal to me.

Regarding the usage of the eaton supercharger from a C230K- It may bolt on with minor modifications and part fabrication, but you will never get around the fact the the C230 supercharger is too small. By too small I am talking in terms of supercharger displacement. The 3.2 V6 is almost a full liter larger, not to mention the fact that it has two more cylinders than the 2.3 inline four. You need to know a thing or two about volumetric efficieny to design a supercharger that will actually produce a decent amount of power.

 

CoryU, thank you for your informative reply. I didn't want to come right out and say it but I was fishing for a reply like yours. Sometimes the only way to do that is to make uninformed remarks (like the ones I posted earlier) pushing someone knowledgeable to put out something useful. I will not put the amg charger on my car. I know now it is not feasable. I know very little about supercharging but I do know that 9800 for the Kleemann is just too far outside my range. This is why I have been looking for alternatives. I had the chance to purchase an amg charger from a c32 for only $800.... that's a steal...if I had a use for it. The difficult part was decided whether or not I indeed had a use. Thanks again!