butt dyno experts needed!
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frankenstein 2001 CLK 430
butt dyno experts needed!
hi every one, i have been working alot on my car and i never gave it a dyno due to the fact that the only dyno available in Lebanon that i know of is getting a major overhaul, and might not be finished until mid next year 
my car is a 2001 clk430, with amg air filter, brabus cams, evosport pulleys, platinum spark plugs, amg c43 middle box and rear with gutted cats, also i have a custom remap with 1.0ms advanced timing and more fueling. i also have 18" Rial Daytona Racing wheels which are quite light i believe that i have 310~320hp max with around 430~440Nm...am i right?
i have raced the following cars and won the length of the race is around 1000m...
C43 rolling start at 20mile/h : 3 car lengths.
C43 stand still start (1100rpm): 5 car lengths.
several 2003-2005 350Zs from stand still 3-4 car lengths.
1998 SL500 rolling start at 50mile/h : 5+ car lengths.
these cars are all stock so the comparison to be accurate...
i have tried the gtec pro 0-100km is in the 5.7-5.8 due to traction issues, what ever rpm i launch on the car looses traction on 1st gear till the middle of 2nd gear....
also i reached 260 km/h and i still had around 800~900 rpm till redline (6200)...
i really dont know how much hp/Nm i have and would really like to know your opinion...
my car is a 2001 clk430, with amg air filter, brabus cams, evosport pulleys, platinum spark plugs, amg c43 middle box and rear with gutted cats, also i have a custom remap with 1.0ms advanced timing and more fueling. i also have 18" Rial Daytona Racing wheels which are quite light i believe that i have 310~320hp max with around 430~440Nm...am i right?
i have raced the following cars and won the length of the race is around 1000m...
C43 rolling start at 20mile/h : 3 car lengths.
C43 stand still start (1100rpm): 5 car lengths.
several 2003-2005 350Zs from stand still 3-4 car lengths.
1998 SL500 rolling start at 50mile/h : 5+ car lengths.
these cars are all stock so the comparison to be accurate...
i have tried the gtec pro 0-100km is in the 5.7-5.8 due to traction issues, what ever rpm i launch on the car looses traction on 1st gear till the middle of 2nd gear....
also i reached 260 km/h and i still had around 800~900 rpm till redline (6200)...
i really dont know how much hp/Nm i have and would really like to know your opinion...
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hi every one, i have been working alot on my car and i never gave it a dyno due to the fact that the only dyno available in Lebanon that i know of is getting a major overhaul, and might not be finished until mid next year
my car is a 2001 clk430, with amg air filter, brabus cams, evosport pulleys, platinum spark plugs, amg c43 middle box and rear with gutted cats, also i have a custom remap with 1.0ms advanced timing and more fueling. i also have 18" Rial Daytona Racing wheels which are quite light i believe that i have 310~320hp max with around 430~440Nm...am i right?
i have raced the following cars and won the length of the race is around 1000m...
C43 rolling start at 20mile/h : 3 car lengths.
C43 stand still start (1100rpm): 5 car lengths.
several 2003-2005 350Zs from stand still 3-4 car lengths.
1998 SL500 rolling start at 50mile/h : 5+ car lengths.
these cars are all stock so the comparison to be accurate...
i have tried the gtec pro 0-100km is in the 5.7-5.8 due to traction issues, what ever rpm i launch on the car looses traction on 1st gear till the middle of 2nd gear....
also i reached 260 km/h and i still had around 800~900 rpm till redline (6200)...
i really dont know how much hp/Nm i have and would really like to know your opinion...
my car is a 2001 clk430, with amg air filter, brabus cams, evosport pulleys, platinum spark plugs, amg c43 middle box and rear with gutted cats, also i have a custom remap with 1.0ms advanced timing and more fueling. i also have 18" Rial Daytona Racing wheels which are quite light i believe that i have 310~320hp max with around 430~440Nm...am i right?
i have raced the following cars and won the length of the race is around 1000m...
C43 rolling start at 20mile/h : 3 car lengths.
C43 stand still start (1100rpm): 5 car lengths.
several 2003-2005 350Zs from stand still 3-4 car lengths.
1998 SL500 rolling start at 50mile/h : 5+ car lengths.
these cars are all stock so the comparison to be accurate...
i have tried the gtec pro 0-100km is in the 5.7-5.8 due to traction issues, what ever rpm i launch on the car looses traction on 1st gear till the middle of 2nd gear....
also i reached 260 km/h and i still had around 800~900 rpm till redline (6200)...
i really dont know how much hp/Nm i have and would really like to know your opinion...
the C43 should smoke your a$$ every time. are you sure it was a C43 and not a C220, C240, C280, etc etc?
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This guys asking for some serious answers..hes not being an *** to us so can someone try and help him out without being sarcastic?
We have somehow turned straight to sarcasm instead of being sincere...I know I will probably get flamed for this but oh well. I liked the it before when we would help out everyone. OK maybe I have had a little too much caffeine
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We have somehow turned straight to sarcasm instead of being sincere...I know I will probably get flamed for this but oh well. I liked the it before when we would help out everyone. OK maybe I have had a little too much caffeine
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This guys asking for some serious answers..hes not being an *** to us so can someone try and help him out without being sarcastic?
We have somehow turned straight to sarcasm instead of being sincere...I know I will probably get flamed for this but oh well. I liked the it before when we would help out everyone. OK maybe I have had a little too much caffeine
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http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/mbfclk.html
"In the old days, before we had dynos on every street corner, we used a formula [(.00426 * MPH) ^3 * Weight] to determine horsepower. A 3500 pound car with that trap speed seems to point to 291 HP"
Found this, but I dont know how much distance is involved in a trap speed. Is that the same as a quarter mile?
"In the old days, before we had dynos on every street corner, we used a formula [(.00426 * MPH) ^3 * Weight] to determine horsepower. A 3500 pound car with that trap speed seems to point to 291 HP"
Found this, but I dont know how much distance is involved in a trap speed. Is that the same as a quarter mile?
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http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/mbfclk.html
"In the old days, before we had dynos on every street corner, we used a formula [(.00426 * MPH) ^3 * Weight] to determine horsepower. A 3500 pound car with that trap speed seems to point to 291 HP"
Found this, but I dont know how much distance is involved in a trap speed. Is that the same as a quarter mile?
"In the old days, before we had dynos on every street corner, we used a formula [(.00426 * MPH) ^3 * Weight] to determine horsepower. A 3500 pound car with that trap speed seems to point to 291 HP"
Found this, but I dont know how much distance is involved in a trap speed. Is that the same as a quarter mile?
do you mean i should see how much my car gets the maximum speed in 400m (1/4 mile) and plug it in the formula provided?
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I don't know if they're the same but it seemed like what you were looking for.
If you can't find what a trap distance is you could always find the 1/4 times of a car with a known hp and weight and tweek the constaint in the formula to work with 1/4 miles or prove that trap speed is quarter mile speed. This all would work the best if you used a stock 430 as the basis for finding your constant. ( this Is all off the top of my head so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong)
Worth a try if your really curious.
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Assuming that "trap speed" = 1/4mi speed, Then yes. I don't know if this is wheel hp or crank, or what kind of error this has.
I don't know if they're the same but it seemed like what you were looking for.
If you can't find what a trap distance is you could always find the 1/4 times of a car with a known hp and weight and tweek the constaint in the formula to work with 1/4 miles or prove that trap speed is quarter mile speed. This all would work the best if you used a stock 430 as the basis for finding your constant. ( this Is all off the top of my head so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong)
Worth a try if your really curious.
I don't know if they're the same but it seemed like what you were looking for.
If you can't find what a trap distance is you could always find the 1/4 times of a car with a known hp and weight and tweek the constaint in the formula to work with 1/4 miles or prove that trap speed is quarter mile speed. This all would work the best if you used a stock 430 as the basis for finding your constant. ( this Is all off the top of my head so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong)
Worth a try if your really curious.
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Sounds like your having a lot of fun with your 430 mods, I kinda wish I saved up for a v8.
I think if you used this method consistently as you modfiy you should be able to determine how effective your mods are. I would think that it would be important to go to a track for your speeds if you don't want your results all over the place.
On that link I gave you in the proformance section under "judge for yourself" the guy got 290 hp for a stock 430 using that formula with a 102 mph trap time. He also got 245 whp on a dyno. So there is your stock numbers, now compare your trap speed(assuming that 1/4 mi). See what you get.
I think if you used this method consistently as you modfiy you should be able to determine how effective your mods are. I would think that it would be important to go to a track for your speeds if you don't want your results all over the place.
On that link I gave you in the proformance section under "judge for yourself" the guy got 290 hp for a stock 430 using that formula with a 102 mph trap time. He also got 245 whp on a dyno. So there is your stock numbers, now compare your trap speed(assuming that 1/4 mi). See what you get.
