CLK-Class (W208) 1998-2002: CLK 200, CLK 230K, CLK 320, CLK 430 [Coupes & Cabriolets]

Stats for tuned w208's??

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Old 04-27-2003, 02:46 AM
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Stats for tuned w208's??

Anyone know where I can get stats (0-60, 1/4th mile etc.) for tuned w208 CLK's?? I can easily find info regarding hp, torque etc but no actual performance stats... So leave your links/stats...

Ie, Kleemann CLK43K, Brabus CLK 6.1, Renntech CLK60 etc.
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Why not Kleemann CLK 55 K ???
Old 04-27-2003, 11:51 AM
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Check out Car and Driver

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...words=renntech

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...words=kleemann
Old 04-27-2003, 01:57 PM
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I did, what do you want me to notice ???? all I meant was the KLEEMANN 55 K is more brutal than the 43K, so comparring with Renntech a comparison between top models would be fair, unless you of cause take the 430 for the lower price than the 55 ???
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Is Kleeman the cheapest one than the other two (Brabus and Renntech).
The Renntech CLK60 is fast, but it is very costly, $50000.

Lucas: how is the warranty coverage for the Kleeman right now?



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That question is not for me to answer, please ask it to KLEEMANN USA.
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No one knows any of the stats for these cars?? (0-60, 1/4th mile)

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WOW...CLK60 goes from 0~60mph in 4 sec flat with only 408hp, that's something Kleemann can't touch. I don't remember reading about any Kleemann cars can go that fast even though they have more HP (like 500+hp in the 55K). Now to mention the S600 Renntech from one of our members, i think his S600 did 0-60 in 3.5sec......i still think Renntech is the king of all mercedes mods, and the king of the prices as well....lol
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CLK60 can go 4s, but 1 sec faster costs you $25,000 LOL
What is the base of the CLK60?

How fast does CLK43K go from 0-60? around 4?


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the S600 is only 3.5 in 0-60 !?
wow , supercharge or something else on it ?
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Originally posted by mac99
WOW...CLK60 goes from 0~60mph in 4 sec flat with only 408hp, that's something Kleemann can't touch. I don't remember reading about any Kleemann cars can go that fast even though they have more HP (like 500+hp in the 55K). Now to mention the S600 Renntech from one of our members, i think his S600 did 0-60 in 3.5sec......i still think Renntech is the king of all mercedes mods, and the king of the prices as well....lol
Put the right tires on my car, and I will be just as fast. Look at the numbers, a Kleemann CLK43K puts out the same power as that car. Anyone can quote acceleration numbers, it's the dyno that shows the truth.
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Originally posted by Mach430
Put the right tires on my car, and I will be just as fast. Look at the numbers, a Kleemann CLK43K puts out the same power as that car. Anyone can quote acceleration numbers, it's the dyno that shows the truth.
what ever happend to the "inch or a mile wining's wining" mentaility... surely the strip tells the truth not the dyno?

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Originally posted by hinhin7
CLK60 can go 4s, but 1 sec faster costs you $25,000 LOL
What is the base of the CLK60?

How fast does CLK43K go from 0-60? around 4?


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Straight from Car and Driver:

KLEEMANN CLK 43K:

HP: 427
Torque: 401 lbs/ft.
0-60- 4.9
0-100- 11.5
0-130- 20.8
Street Start (5-60)- 5.1
1/4 mile: 13.4@108
Braking 70-0- 159 feet.

These times were made on Toyo Proxes T1-S street tires 265 width in the rear, 235 in the front. This car can, without a doubt produce better times with the proper tires, but who want's to buy $350.00 a piece DOT racing tires every 2000 miles? Not me. We can get the car to 60 in four seconds with super-soft racing tires, but how is that an accurate indication of what the car can do if 99% of our customers use street tires?
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Originally posted by CoryU
Straight from Car and Driver:

KLEEMANN CLK 43K:

HP: 427
Torque: 401 lbs/ft.
0-60- 4.9
0-100- 11.5
0-130- 20.8
Street Start (5-60)- 5.1
1/4 mile: 13.4@108
Braking 70-0- 159 feet.

These times were made on Toyo Proxes T1-S street tires 265 width in the rear, 235 in the front. This car can, without a doubt produce better times with the proper tires, but who want's to buy $350.00 a piece DOT racing tires every 2000 miles? Not me. We can get the car to 60 in four seconds with super-soft racing tires, but how is that an accurate indication of what the car can do if 99% of our customers use street tires?
Ben and Cory: Were they using racing tires when they tested the CLK60? Are you guys saying proper tires = racing tires?

I noticed that the 0-100mph figure for CLK43K = 11.5s
and the quarter mile time = 13.4@108mph

0-100mph = 11.5
0-108mph = 13.4

So, why does it take around from 100-108mph?

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Originally posted by hinhin7
Ben and Cory: Were they using racing tires when they tested the CLK60? Are you guys saying proper tires = racing tires?

I noticed that the 0-100mph figure for CLK43K = 11.5s
and the quarter mile time = 13.4@108mph

0-100mph = 11.5
0-108mph = 13.4

So, why does it take around from 100-108mph?

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I can't say for sure that RennTech was using racing tires, but I'm almost certian they were. Proper tires are not necessarily DOT approved racing tires. The proper tire depends on what the conditions are. If you live in a rainy climate, choose a tire which was designed for the rain. If you live in a snow climate, choose a tire which was designed for the snow. The same goes for making acceleration and 1/4 mile runs- choose a tire which was designed to provide high amounts of grip.

Regarding the 1/4 mile and 0-100:

0-100 can be reached in that particular car in third gear. To get to 108, the car has to shift into fourth gear. a 3-4 upshift can easily take two seconds. There are many things that dictate shift time and quality, and that particular car may have had a problem with one of the inputs which calculate shift time, causing it to upshift abnormally slow. It's hard to say, since the test was done over a year ago. On a side note, I drive that car everday, and it is so wickedly fast, 0-60 and 1/4 mile times don't even come to mind. I haven't raced anyone in Colorado Springs that can even keep up with it! That's not really saying much since it's only a 10 minute drive to work, but my point is the performance times that were recorded are just a though in the back of my mind- I don't really care what the car can do on a track, since it's my daily driver. Streetability is what my concern is, which that car has plenty of.
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Originally posted by Pffelan
what ever happend to the "inch or a mile wining's wining" mentaility... surely the strip tells the truth not the dyno?

lol
Lol Paul. Well in that case, please post your 1/4 mile before/after times from our pulleys !
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Solihin,

I also can't say what tire was used, but I can tell you that not even Sleestack's car will have 4 second 0-60 times if he is running standard size street tires. Traction kills. Heck, I can floor it and have a 4-5 second 0-40 if I want Of course, that's only traveling about 30 ft--sideways
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I'm not going to say that Renntech's numbers aren't for real, however, the CLK60 (or GT) has stated hp and torque numbers of 408 hp abd 460 lb/ft torque. There is no way they are getting 4.0 second flat 0-60 times on a stock setup. I do believe that number is achievable, however I think if you fitted a Kleemann car with the same setup as a Renntech car you would get results that reflect their relative hp and torque figures. Unfortunately there is no way to find out short of a head to head in controlled conditions. The CLK GT (60) costs $140K. The GTX costs $300K. A Kleemann SCed 55 (which will put out over 500 hp and lb/ft torque) is going to cost you about $85K. Put the difference of $55K into other upgrades and I'm sure you will end up with a car that will eat the CLK 60 for lunch.
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S 600 with 0-60 in 3,5 sec.

I drive S 600 biturbo fully modified, I don't know how the Renntech drives but they usually do good work.
Last week I had one of the big Japanese magazines in Denmark and testing the S 60K. I only have the journalist's word that the KLEEMANN S 60K is faster than the Renntech. Renntech only change chip, KLEEMANN modify turbos ect.ect., so it must be a fair to claim that the KLEEMANN car at least have the same power.

I drive with Dunlop SP 9000 or under testing I drove with Toyo.
Accelerating that car is insane, no way the tires can grip in the asphalt. 0-60 in 3,5 sec. is not possible with a street tire.
I can't do better than 4,5 - 5 sec. to 100 km/h, but I am smokeing the tires all the way.

Bringing a +2 ton car from 0-60 in 3,5 secs., is not possible, unless
there is special tires on or starting at a drag strip where the asphalt have a thick layer of rubber.
I don't see that makeing a "rocket" start under special conditions
benefit the daily user of the car.

Of cause 2 of the same cars with 408 or 550 HP, the 550 Hp version will be faster.
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Oooof!
Thats too much information for me, i'm kinda confused out of my head right now. So I'll just chill for a while.

BTW I've just placed a deposit for an Audi RS4 thats due in town in December. I thought it was a bargain compared to all the other germans.

Any idea if i'll be up there with the best of em?


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