Stats for tuned w208's??
Ie, Kleemann CLK43K, Brabus CLK 6.1, Renntech CLK60 etc.
The Renntech CLK60 is fast, but it is very costly, $50000.
Lucas: how is the warranty coverage for the Kleeman right now?
Thanks,
Solihin
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WOW...CLK60 goes from 0~60mph in 4 sec flat with only 408hp, that's something Kleemann can't touch. I don't remember reading about any Kleemann cars can go that fast even though they have more HP (like 500+hp in the 55K). Now to mention the S600 Renntech from one of our members, i think his S600 did 0-60 in 3.5sec......i still think Renntech is the king of all mercedes mods, and the king of the prices as well....lol
Put the right tires on my car, and I will be just as fast. Look at the numbers, a Kleemann CLK43K puts out the same power as that car. Anyone can quote acceleration numbers, it's the dyno that shows the truth.
lol
CLK60 can go 4s, but 1 sec faster costs you $25,000 LOL
What is the base of the CLK60?
How fast does CLK43K go from 0-60? around 4?
Solihin
KLEEMANN CLK 43K:
HP: 427
Torque: 401 lbs/ft.
0-60- 4.9
0-100- 11.5
0-130- 20.8
Street Start (5-60)- 5.1
1/4 mile: 13.4@108
Braking 70-0- 159 feet.
These times were made on Toyo Proxes T1-S street tires 265 width in the rear, 235 in the front. This car can, without a doubt produce better times with the proper tires, but who want's to buy $350.00 a piece DOT racing tires every 2000 miles? Not me. We can get the car to 60 in four seconds with super-soft racing tires, but how is that an accurate indication of what the car can do if 99% of our customers use street tires?
Straight from Car and Driver:
KLEEMANN CLK 43K:
HP: 427
Torque: 401 lbs/ft.
0-60- 4.9
0-100- 11.5
0-130- 20.8
Street Start (5-60)- 5.1
1/4 mile: 13.4@108
Braking 70-0- 159 feet.
These times were made on Toyo Proxes T1-S street tires 265 width in the rear, 235 in the front. This car can, without a doubt produce better times with the proper tires, but who want's to buy $350.00 a piece DOT racing tires every 2000 miles? Not me. We can get the car to 60 in four seconds with super-soft racing tires, but how is that an accurate indication of what the car can do if 99% of our customers use street tires?
I noticed that the 0-100mph figure for CLK43K = 11.5s
and the quarter mile time = 13.4@108mph
0-100mph = 11.5
0-108mph = 13.4
So, why does it take around from 100-108mph?
Thanks,
Solihin
Ben and Cory: Were they using racing tires when they tested the CLK60? Are you guys saying proper tires = racing tires?
I noticed that the 0-100mph figure for CLK43K = 11.5s
and the quarter mile time = 13.4@108mph
0-100mph = 11.5
0-108mph = 13.4
So, why does it take around from 100-108mph?
Thanks,
Solihin
I can't say for sure that RennTech was using racing tires, but I'm almost certian they were. Proper tires are not necessarily DOT approved racing tires. The proper tire depends on what the conditions are. If you live in a rainy climate, choose a tire which was designed for the rain. If you live in a snow climate, choose a tire which was designed for the snow. The same goes for making acceleration and 1/4 mile runs- choose a tire which was designed to provide high amounts of grip.
Regarding the 1/4 mile and 0-100:
0-100 can be reached in that particular car in third gear. To get to 108, the car has to shift into fourth gear. a 3-4 upshift can easily take two seconds. There are many things that dictate shift time and quality, and that particular car may have had a problem with one of the inputs which calculate shift time, causing it to upshift abnormally slow. It's hard to say, since the test was done over a year ago. On a side note, I drive that car everday, and it is so wickedly fast, 0-60 and 1/4 mile times don't even come to mind. I haven't raced anyone in Colorado Springs that can even keep up with it! That's not really saying much since it's only a 10 minute drive to work, but my point is the performance times that were recorded are just a though in the back of my mind- I don't really care what the car can do on a track, since it's my daily driver. Streetability is what my concern is, which that car has plenty of.
what ever happend to the "inch or a mile wining's wining" mentaility... surely the strip tells the truth not the dyno?
lol
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I also can't say what tire was used, but I can tell you that not even Sleestack's car will have 4 second 0-60 times if he is running standard size street tires. Traction kills. Heck, I can floor it and have a 4-5 second 0-40 if I want
Of course, that's only traveling about 30 ft--sideways
I drive S 600 biturbo fully modified, I don't know how the Renntech drives but they usually do good work.
Last week I had one of the big Japanese magazines in Denmark and testing the S 60K. I only have the journalist's word that the KLEEMANN S 60K is faster than the Renntech. Renntech only change chip, KLEEMANN modify turbos ect.ect., so it must be a fair to claim that the KLEEMANN car at least have the same power.
I drive with Dunlop SP 9000 or under testing I drove with Toyo.
Accelerating that car is insane, no way the tires can grip in the asphalt. 0-60 in 3,5 sec. is not possible with a street tire.
I can't do better than 4,5 - 5 sec. to 100 km/h, but I am smokeing the tires all the way.
Bringing a +2 ton car from 0-60 in 3,5 secs., is not possible, unless
there is special tires on or starting at a drag strip where the asphalt have a thick layer of rubber.
I don't see that makeing a "rocket" start under special conditions
benefit the daily user of the car.
Of cause 2 of the same cars with 408 or 550 HP, the 550 Hp version will be faster.




Thats too much information for me, i'm kinda confused out of my head right now. So I'll just chill for a while.
BTW I've just placed a deposit for an Audi RS4 thats due in town in December. I thought it was a bargain compared to all the other germans.
Any idea if i'll be up there with the best of em?



