Kleeman Supercharger
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Kleeman Supercharger
While im at it might as well post another thread. What is everyone take on Kleeman superchargers? I inquired about the supercharger for my Clk430 and was quoted a $14,300 for the part along with a $1500 dollar installation charge. Thats pretty damn steep so my question is:
Is it worth adding a Kleeman supercharger to a 430 which to my knowledge transfroms it from 275 hp to 430 hp, 295 lb ft torque to 393 lb ft torque, and launches the car from 0-60 in 4.9 secs or to trade it in for a Clk55.
The 430 and the 55 really look identical, the only difference is the engine itself. For me to trade it in i would end up paying a little over 20k as opposed to 16k for the supercharger. On paper a supercharged 430 is faster than a clk55. But is that really the case?
Any insight on this would be appreciated. Thanks
Is it worth adding a Kleeman supercharger to a 430 which to my knowledge transfroms it from 275 hp to 430 hp, 295 lb ft torque to 393 lb ft torque, and launches the car from 0-60 in 4.9 secs or to trade it in for a Clk55.
The 430 and the 55 really look identical, the only difference is the engine itself. For me to trade it in i would end up paying a little over 20k as opposed to 16k for the supercharger. On paper a supercharged 430 is faster than a clk55. But is that really the case?
Any insight on this would be appreciated. Thanks
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Yes, a 430K is definitely faster than a 55. Being that I have a 430, I had to ask myself the same question as you. I decided that for the amount I would have to pay to trade my car in, I could make my car beat a 55 in many ways (speed, handling, and aesthetics). Being that Kleemann Superchargers will not hurt your engine, and an aftermarket extended warranty can be purchased for the same price of a Mercedes warranty, I made the choice to supercharge my car (March 11th).
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There are also warranty and insurance considerations. I wish someone from the insurance industry would respond to the scenario postulated in the thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
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Originally posted by karl k
There are also warranty and insurance considerations. I wish someone from the insurance industry would respond to the scenario postulated in the thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
There are also warranty and insurance considerations. I wish someone from the insurance industry would respond to the scenario postulated in the thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
#1. Anything that you can prove was in your car at the time of an accident is covered (providing you have full coverage).
#2. If you are going 80, 100, 120, or any speed and you hit somebody, it does not matter if you have a supercharged car or a naturally aspirated engine. The point is: you hit someone. I don't think "The supercharger made me do it," will ever be a valid excuse.
As for warranty:
#1. If your car happens to be the first Kleemann modified car to have engine problems in their 15 years of business, and you go to the dealer with the supercharger still in place, your dealer will most likely not cover the problem under warranty. Being that Kleemann has never had any problems, you would probably be able to defeat that due to the Magnusson Moss act, stating that the manufacturer must prove that your modification caused the problem. But why go through the trouble? Just as Kleemann Supercharger can be installed, they can be uninstalled, leaving your engine looking stock.
#2. There are currently 3 aftermarket extended warranty companies that know the Kleemann reputation and offer warranties to cars with their superchargers installed. These warranties are inexpensive (especially when dealing with MB parts), and provide an easy insurance policy in the event something goes wrong.
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can you tell us who the warranty companies are? how easy would it be to uninstall the kleemann SC if you had to take it back to MB? seems like a lot of trouble to do that if something were to go wrong.
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Off-hand, I don't know the names of the companies, but I'll look into it. As for it being a lot of work to remove the supercharger. I would assume that it is the same amount of work to remove it as to install it. But the point is, Kleemann Superchargers are reliable, you will probably never have an issue with it. The fact that you can undue it is simply added insurance.
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1. If it is that easy to uninstall, why does the installation cost $2,000.- plus?
2. If the engine develops problems - blows, an MB technician can surely tell that someone did some serious tinkering with it. You can't blow MB off with, "IT IS STOCK!"
3. For free flexible service, required per the MB warranty, does one remove the Kleeman to make sure that warranty is not voided?...and then re-install after the MB service?
4. The drive-train may develop problems because of the huge power increase.
The CLK55 AMG has the tranny from the powerful S600 and a four inch drive shaft to accomodate the extra power. Hence, the power of the Kleeman could damage/destroy componnets which are not part of the engine.
5. If there is Kleemen insurance to cover such possible damage, for a Kleeman converted CLK430 how much is it for 4 yr./50,000 miles? For 6 yr./100,000 miles??
6. Again, I wish a rep from the insurance industry - State Farm or Allstate - would address the implications as postulated in this thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
Just as Kleemann Supercharger can be installed, they can be uninstalled, leaving your engine looking stock.
2. If the engine develops problems - blows, an MB technician can surely tell that someone did some serious tinkering with it. You can't blow MB off with, "IT IS STOCK!"
3. For free flexible service, required per the MB warranty, does one remove the Kleeman to make sure that warranty is not voided?...and then re-install after the MB service?
4. The drive-train may develop problems because of the huge power increase.
The CLK55 AMG has the tranny from the powerful S600 and a four inch drive shaft to accomodate the extra power. Hence, the power of the Kleeman could damage/destroy componnets which are not part of the engine.
5. If there is Kleemen insurance to cover such possible damage, for a Kleeman converted CLK430 how much is it for 4 yr./50,000 miles? For 6 yr./100,000 miles??
6. Again, I wish a rep from the insurance industry - State Farm or Allstate - would address the implications as postulated in this thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=Kleeman
Last edited by karl k; Mar 5, 2002 at 12:20 AM.
