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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Help Urgent! Pulley Installation!

Hey guys i decided to replace my crank pulley but dont have the tool to hold it while loosening it! anyone know if there is another way with out the tool ?
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Hey guys i decided to replace my crank pulley but dont have the tool to hold it while loosening it! anyone know if there is another way with out the tool ?

You don't need to hold anything if you use an impat gun. Just be SUPER carefull when re-align the pulley onto the key way. If the alignment is off, your key way will get damage and the pulley will work it way loose. If this happen, you might need a new/rebuild engine. The other way, bottom of the tranny (newer model might be top), there should be 1 or 2 plastic cover. Remove the cover and use something to lock up the tranny.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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replacing engine sounds SCARY!
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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my guy went and got the tool lol next time i go to Real Mercedes mechanic George in BK. He said it takes 15 mins to replace the pulley hahaha my guy is already taking 5 hours.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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Guys, I have a question on pulleys....

I have been told that upgrading the crank pulley on a naturally aspirated engine is pointless as it will not offer any gains.

Can anyone shed some light on whether this is true?

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Guys, I have a question on pulleys....

I have been told that upgrading the crank pulley on a naturally aspirated engine is pointless as it will not offer any gains.

Can anyone shed some light on whether this is true?

rotational mass when reduced always produces more power...
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by badblackbenz550
rotational mass when reduced always produces more power...

Hmm, I see.

I may look into this.

Thanks bud.

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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looks like i have to go to your guy!
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by badblackbenz550
looks like i have to go to your guy!

My Councellor, you mean?

lol!

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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My guy wasted whole day potentially demaging my stock pulley cause h has no tool and could not take it off.... what a waste and he wanted more than any other shop in the area how great!
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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I think he means my mechanic.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dynomite05
I think he means my mechanic.

lol.

btw how much are these pullys costing on average? how much HP? i've been wanting to do this along with sways.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by badblackbenz550
rotational mass when reduced always produces more power...

In reality, it does not produces more power but use less power to spin in return give back the hp. I think M-benz has this mods but couldn't felt a thing. He then removed and sold it. The concern with these type of mod is that, now the weight is offset and might cause more vibration but the damper will control that and you won't feel it but it is there. Just think about this, when you removed the weight from one end of the engine, you will offset the weight balance of the crank shaft from the way the factory designed and balanced it.

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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dynomite05
In the 320 or the 500?

the 500
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In reality, it does not produces more power but use less power to spin in return give back the hp. I think M-benz has this mods but couldn't felt a thing. He then removed and sold it. The concern with these type of mod is that, now the weight is offset and might cause more vibration but the damper will control that and you won't feel it but it is there. Just think about this, when you removed the weight from one end of the engine, you will offset the weight balance of the crank shaft from the way the factory designed and balanced it.
+1 on the way it frees up, not adds HP.

You also raise another good point but I think that the dampening effect is what the real issue is, not the weight per say. Stock dampners are heavy and have a vibration absorbing material, like rubber, these AMS pulleys are quite a bit lighter but they do feature an integrated dampner. I ran a fluid dampner on a 327 years ago and never had any issues with it and it was a whole lot lighter than the stock one was as well. It has more to do with the virbation absorbtion/cancellation than weight IMO as a rotating balanced assembly is just that, balanced while rotating, not in a 'shelf-state' where differences in weight from one end to the other would play a significant role. Example being a wheel, a high offset wheel has a whole lot more weight distributed on the out facing side than the inner side, it does not effect the overall balance while rotating, it is also a a balanced rotating assembly.

I made mention on another thread that an absolute killer product would be a reduced mass crank pulley with an integral fluid dampner and under-drive pulley sey combination, it wouldn't be cheap but it would be a great product for those chasing to shave 1/10th's off in the quarter.

I also have an AMS pulley, maybe I'll play around with it and try to come up with a very simple test that I can then apply to the stock pulley as well. I think I have an idea...
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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[QUOTE=Kevwood;4454523 Example being a wheel, a high offset wheel has a whole lot more weight distributed on the out facing side than the inner side, it does not effect the overall balance while rotating, it is also a a balanced rotating assembly....[/QUOTE]


Good example but the high offset of the wheel is already countered with weight added thickness of the design in the wheel. If you look at the inside of the rim with high offset, there's is an extra ring/ridges near the outer side of the rim to countered the extra weight of the high offset weight added on the inner side of the rim.
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Freeing up HP = more Hp at the wheels...
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 01:30 AM
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Freeing up HP = more Hp at the wheels...
Really? No way man, I think we all need to see proof of your outlandish claim before anyone on this thread believes it!!!
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