Please check my VIN for Balance shaft issue?
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2007 E350, 2011 ML350, 2003 E320
Hi Guys, am just reading up on this dreaded Balance shaft issue and was hoping Rodney can help me out. My VIN is WDBUF56X97B062317, 2007 E350. Please let me know if my engine # falls under the affected ones? Thank you in advance, much appreciated.
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Mercedes C350 (s203)
Can you please check by VIN?
Hello all. Can someone check if this VIN belongs to a C350 2005 within the range of affected cars of the balance shaft issue for M272 engine ? wdb2032562f733480 Thank you.
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No need to check - yes it will be in the range. All M272 and M273 engines prior to MY2007 are in the range, and about half of the MY2007's. After MY2007 are fine. So, only MY2007's need to be checked by VIN. Also, please understand the term "model year" which is different from "plate year" used by your country. Model year is the definitive standard the manufacturer uses to indicate a particular version/revision of a car. There is no such thing as a "MY2005" CLK350 - the CLK350 came out in mid calendar year 2005 as a MY2006.
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2007 CLK 550
Hi Again Rodney, it’s hard to believe this thread is still going strong seven years later, but thankfully so is the idler sprocket in my CLK550. I’m over 62k miles now, and while I had a couple of MILs a few years back, they always seemed to “go away” after a good old Italian tuneup (my car might be German but my name is Vinnie after all). I’ve had the stealership pull codes a couple of times over the years, but the only thing they ever found was the SRS error caused by me putting a full growler of beer on the front passenger seat while the car was moving! I did notice a slight squeak while idling, and even mentioned it to the service advisor when I took it in for an oil change, but they still didn’t find anything.
My question is, as the defective sprocket wears, don’t you think it would begin to become apparent because the timing would change? Or would it be so subtle as to render it undetectable to mere mortals? I’d like to think I got one of thecorrectly forged sprockets, but it’s always in the back of my mind, especially now because I’m starting to think about selling it (there have been quite a few reasonably priced SL55s and SL63s on Bringatrailer.com recently).
Thoughts?
Vin
My question is, as the defective sprocket wears, don’t you think it would begin to become apparent because the timing would change? Or would it be so subtle as to render it undetectable to mere mortals? I’d like to think I got one of thecorrectly forged sprockets, but it’s always in the back of my mind, especially now because I’m starting to think about selling it (there have been quite a few reasonably priced SL55s and SL63s on Bringatrailer.com recently).
Thoughts?
Vin
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When/if it first begins to fail, all you'll get is an MIL with 1200/1208 (P0017/P0016) codes. The variable-valve timing system can actually compensate for the slack in the timign chain caused by the work sprocket.
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2006 E 350 4matic, 2003 C 240
i have an 06 e350 and new to Mercedes, would it be possible to find out if my engine is in the bad range? vin WDBUF87J76X197468
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You can lookup the meaning of those codes here:
http://benzbits.com/dtc/DTC%20209.372.pdf
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i have an 06 e350 and new to Mercedes, would it be possible to find out if my engine is in the bad range? vin WDBUF87J76X197468
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W204 C280 Avantgarde
You have engine serial number 30-662950, which is beyond the range.
You can lookup the meaning of those codes here:
http://benzbits.com/dtc/DTC%20209.372.pdf
You can lookup the meaning of those codes here:
http://benzbits.com/dtc/DTC%20209.372.pdf
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2006 CLK 350 Cab
Wow, since this thread is still going strong . . . For my own clarification and ease of mind, from what I get in this thread is that the balance shaft may wear out prematurely because it was discovered that a proper heat treat was not done on some of them during production. There is no way to know exactly which ones but it is known what period of time these were presented for inclusion into MB engines. It is not absolutely certain my engine contains the weak part, only that it was produced at the range of time known to MB.
- Knowing this, what can one expect as a sign of the issue manifesting itself?
- Does it appear in cars driven harder, will the engine vibrate more, will engine light appear first, or will the engine simply seize?
- Does it make sense to get it fixed now even though there are no signs of the problem and how much should it cost?
Last edited by jepaul; Feb 10, 2020 at 03:22 PM.
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W204 C280 Avantgarde
Wow, since this thread is still going strong . . . For my own clarification and ease of mind, foorm what I get in this thread is that the balance shaft may wear out prematurely because it was discovered that a proper heat treat was not done on some of them during production. There is no way to know exactly which ones but it is known what period of time these were presented for inclusion into MB engines. It is not absolutely certain my engine contains the weak part, only that it was produced at the range of time known to MB. Knowing this what can one expect as a sign of the issue manifesting itself? Does it appear in cars driven harder, will the engine vibrate more, will engine light appear first, or will the engine simply seize? Does it make sense to get it fixed now even though there are no signs of the problem and how much should it cost?
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2006 E350
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2015 E400 Cab - 2013 GL350 - 2013 ML350 - 2006 E350 - Old Jeep
I am just reading up on this dreaded Balance shaft issue and was hoping Rodney can help me out. My VIN isWDBTK56G06T063985
2006 CLK350. Please let me know if my engine # falls under the affected ones?
How would I know if this repair (if needed) had been completed at the dealer?
Thank you in advance, much appreciated.
2006 CLK350. Please let me know if my engine # falls under the affected ones?
How would I know if this repair (if needed) had been completed at the dealer?
Thank you in advance, much appreciated.
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Mercedes w220 s430 & Mercedes w126 280se
Hi dear MB friends,
Thank you so much in advance to check if I am also in the affected range seen from the famous issues like timing chain
2007 GL550
With the following VIN nr: 4JGBF86E08A325970
Thank you so much in advance to check if I am also in the affected range seen from the famous issues like timing chain
2007 GL550
With the following VIN nr: 4JGBF86E08A325970
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2006 C230 Sports
Hi, I have the dreaded Balance shaft issue on my 2006 C230 Sedan sport. MB dealer confirmed it and recommended I go to MBUSA. They said they couldn't discuss the terms of the settlement of the SEIFI case which started this whole repair thing, claimed the extended warranty period had expired and redirected me to a site that is no longer operational. In fact it's for sale: balanceshaftsettlement.com.
Can somebody tell me whether the warranty has really expired? Or is it just MBUSA saying this to scare people off? My reading of the settlement says it won't expire for a while (2025) as MB USA agreed to the settlement on March 23 2015 & it became effective in August of the same year. Does anybody have similar or different info. Please share?
Also if Rodney or sbdy else is still checking impacted vehicles based on the VIN - please check mine: WDBRF52H56F746700. Here are some key terms of the settlement
1) “Defendant Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (‘MBUSA’) prospectively [will] cover future repairs for the allegedly defective parts at issue for the lesser of 10 years or 125,000 miles, subject to certain conditions and limitations. This extended coverage more than doubles the durational limit of MBUSA’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty’s term of the lesser of 4 years of 50,000 miles.”
2) The Mercedes class action settlement is for “all current and former owners and lessees of Mercedes-Benz branded automobiles equipped with M272 or M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 or 2739 ..30088611, found in the Subject 2005 – 2007 Model Year Vehicles respectively (the ‘Subject Vehicles’), who purchased or leased their Subject Vehicles within the United States.”
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...ction-lawsuit/
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...on-settlement/
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...comment-224780
Can somebody tell me whether the warranty has really expired? Or is it just MBUSA saying this to scare people off? My reading of the settlement says it won't expire for a while (2025) as MB USA agreed to the settlement on March 23 2015 & it became effective in August of the same year. Does anybody have similar or different info. Please share?
Also if Rodney or sbdy else is still checking impacted vehicles based on the VIN - please check mine: WDBRF52H56F746700. Here are some key terms of the settlement
1) “Defendant Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (‘MBUSA’) prospectively [will] cover future repairs for the allegedly defective parts at issue for the lesser of 10 years or 125,000 miles, subject to certain conditions and limitations. This extended coverage more than doubles the durational limit of MBUSA’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty’s term of the lesser of 4 years of 50,000 miles.”
2) The Mercedes class action settlement is for “all current and former owners and lessees of Mercedes-Benz branded automobiles equipped with M272 or M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 or 2739 ..30088611, found in the Subject 2005 – 2007 Model Year Vehicles respectively (the ‘Subject Vehicles’), who purchased or leased their Subject Vehicles within the United States.”
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...ction-lawsuit/
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...on-settlement/
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...comment-224780
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2006 C230 Sports
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Hi Rodney , Can you check my VIN WDBRF52H56F746700 C230 Sport Sedan
Is the settlement still active because MBUSA says it expired - would not confirm when ?
My reading of the settlement indicates it has not :
1) “Defendant Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (‘MBUSA’) prospectively [will] cover future repairs for the allegedly defective parts at issue for the lesser of 10 years or 125,000 miles, subject to certain conditions and limitations. This extended coverage more than doubles the durational limit of MBUSA’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty’s term of the lesser of 4 years of 50,000 miles.” Agreed by MB March 23 2015
2) The Mercedes class action settlement is for “all current and former owners and lessees of Mercedes-Benz branded automobiles equipped with M272 or M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 or 2739 ..30088611, found in the Subject 2005 – 2007 Model Year Vehicles respectively (the ‘Subject Vehicles’), who purchased or leased their Subject Vehicles within the United States.”
Hi Rodney , Can you check my VIN WDBRF52H56F746700 C230 Sport Sedan
Is the settlement still active because MBUSA says it expired - would not confirm when ?
My reading of the settlement indicates it has not :
1) “Defendant Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC (‘MBUSA’) prospectively [will] cover future repairs for the allegedly defective parts at issue for the lesser of 10 years or 125,000 miles, subject to certain conditions and limitations. This extended coverage more than doubles the durational limit of MBUSA’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty’s term of the lesser of 4 years of 50,000 miles.” Agreed by MB March 23 2015
2) The Mercedes class action settlement is for “all current and former owners and lessees of Mercedes-Benz branded automobiles equipped with M272 or M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 or 2739 ..30088611, found in the Subject 2005 – 2007 Model Year Vehicles respectively (the ‘Subject Vehicles’), who purchased or leased their Subject Vehicles within the United States.”
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Color me confused. If the settlement only covers 10 years or 125,000 miles, and you have a 2006 car, and you weren't a party to the class action suit, how or why would the car be covered under this settlement?
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2006 C230 Sports
I guess it depends on the effective date of the settlement doesn't it rather than the age of the Car? I am no lawyer and I am coming to this late but that's how I understood it. I am happy to be enlightened that's why I am here asking questions. My information says MBUSA agreed to the settlement on Mar 23 2015. Doesn't that means the 10 years coverage start then for anyone who has not reached 125K miles ?
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2010 E550 Coupe
I guess it depends on the effective date of the settlement doesn't it rather than the age of the Car? I am no lawyer and I am coming to this late but that's how I understood it. I am happy to be enlightened that's why I am here asking questions. My information says MBUSA agreed to the settlement on Mar 23 2015. Doesn't that means the 10 years coverage start then for anyone who has not reached 125K miles ?
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2006 e350
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E320 4MATIC
New member here, I'm in the process of possibly buying an 05 E320 4Matic with only 38k. Was bought new by an older German Gentleman in his 80's. He drove it a little bit and had it serviced at the Benz dealer. He's since passed away. His wife wants to sell the car as it doesn't get driven much anymore. I called the local Benz dealer and they said they couldn't give me maintenance records unless I was the actual owner. The car doesn't have the airmatic suspension, which is a relief but I've been hearing about this balance shaft issue. Is the e320 affected? This is the vin number WDBUF82J75X165724 engine number 112954 31 838287. Hope I'm in the right place, if I'm not, please forgive me.
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c230
vin check on my c230
My check engine light is on and throwing code P0016, Can you please check my vin#WDBRF52HX7A931436.
It has 146,000 miles on. I purchased the car back in 2010, with 34,000 miles on it
Thank You
It has 146,000 miles on. I purchased the car back in 2010, with 34,000 miles on it
Thank You
