new clk63 confirmed by edmunds
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new clk63 confirmed by edmunds
Looks like this models the second in line to get the new engine:
AFFALTERBACH, Germany — Of late, AMG has concentrated on artificially aspirated engines, namely supercharged V8s and turbocharged V12s. But that's all about to change when Mercedes-Benz's performance division unveils its new V8 at the Frankfurt Motor Show next month.
Dubbed the ML156, the new normally aspirated 6.3-liter V8 will make its Frankfurt debut in the Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG. The engine delivers 510 hp at 6,800 rpm and 465 pound-feet of torque at 5,200 rpm. AMG officials told Inside Line the large displacement allows 20-percent more torque than its chief competitors, while at the same time being lighter, more fuel-efficient and more drivable.
After it debuts in the ML63 AMG, the engine will go into the CLK63 AMG and E63 AMG, likely to be unveiled at next spring's Geneva show. In late 2006, the engine will make its way into the R63 AMG, and in early 2007, it will go into the C63 AMG and SLK63 AMG.
The ML156 engine won't be fitted into the AMG versions of the new S-Class — premiering at the Frankfurt show — the CL or SL until at least 2008. Those vehicles will feature more powerful versions of their current engines.
While this new engine is normally aspirated, AMG officials said the division will remain faithful to turbocharging where it makes sense.
AFFALTERBACH, Germany — Of late, AMG has concentrated on artificially aspirated engines, namely supercharged V8s and turbocharged V12s. But that's all about to change when Mercedes-Benz's performance division unveils its new V8 at the Frankfurt Motor Show next month.
Dubbed the ML156, the new normally aspirated 6.3-liter V8 will make its Frankfurt debut in the Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG. The engine delivers 510 hp at 6,800 rpm and 465 pound-feet of torque at 5,200 rpm. AMG officials told Inside Line the large displacement allows 20-percent more torque than its chief competitors, while at the same time being lighter, more fuel-efficient and more drivable.
After it debuts in the ML63 AMG, the engine will go into the CLK63 AMG and E63 AMG, likely to be unveiled at next spring's Geneva show. In late 2006, the engine will make its way into the R63 AMG, and in early 2007, it will go into the C63 AMG and SLK63 AMG.
The ML156 engine won't be fitted into the AMG versions of the new S-Class — premiering at the Frankfurt show — the CL or SL until at least 2008. Those vehicles will feature more powerful versions of their current engines.
While this new engine is normally aspirated, AMG officials said the division will remain faithful to turbocharging where it makes sense.
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I find it impossible to believe they will put the exact same engine in every single car as this article suggests. The E, S, SL and CL will surely get a more powerful version than the C and SLK classes just as we've seen in the past.
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Whatever the configuration, the price will be stout to be sure.
What percentage of driving time do you actually use 500+ HP? Purchase price and ownership depreciation for these mega HP vehicles is the most severe example in the market.
At almost $4. a gallon, you also won't be so eager to induldge in Lead foot Lenny type driving.
What percentage of driving time do you actually use 500+ HP? Purchase price and ownership depreciation for these mega HP vehicles is the most severe example in the market.
At almost $4. a gallon, you also won't be so eager to induldge in Lead foot Lenny type driving.
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wow c63 and slk63...that would be crazy. i will wait and see tho. i love the concept of a big n/a motor in small cars 
man i remember a few years ago, brabus 6.1 in an slk was crazy, now, according to edmunds, 6.3 in an slk amg production model. amg turns over so fast, great for marketing, staying ahead with numbers, and sales, but screws over the customers of existing amg's lol!
man i remember a few years ago, brabus 6.1 in an slk was crazy, now, according to edmunds, 6.3 in an slk amg production model. amg turns over so fast, great for marketing, staying ahead with numbers, and sales, but screws over the customers of existing amg's lol!
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I'm suprised with a name like "kompressorkev" you'd be fond of N/A engines! 
( love the name btw)
I agree, putting one of these in a clk or slk is going to make for some incredible driving capabilities. I do think this is the upper limit of horsepower for both of these cars, and in fact may be too much ( there I said it). I'll gladly take a hugely depreciated slk 55 as soon as these come out though!
( love the name btw)I agree, putting one of these in a clk or slk is going to make for some incredible driving capabilities. I do think this is the upper limit of horsepower for both of these cars, and in fact may be too much ( there I said it). I'll gladly take a hugely depreciated slk 55 as soon as these come out though!
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its just stupid to have this many hp under the wheels... with the current amgs. you can't even floor it at a stop light... ... I seriously doubt if any thing less han 300 width tire will hold the traction....
6.3L engine!!!!!..... why the hell they need a N/A this big but a supercharger or turbo charger is the more efficient way to do it with about the same output........
they proabbly end up putting a 6.3 quad turbo in the coming 2008 2009 SL
6.3L engine!!!!!..... why the hell they need a N/A this big but a supercharger or turbo charger is the more efficient way to do it with about the same output........
they proabbly end up putting a 6.3 quad turbo in the coming 2008 2009 SL
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Originally Posted by mtimmy
its just stupid to have this many hp under the wheels... with the current amgs. you can't even floor it at a stop light... ... I seriously doubt if any thing less han 300 width tire will hold the traction....
6.3L engine!!!!!..... why the hell they need a N/A this big but a supercharger or turbo charger is the more efficient way to do it with about the same output........
they proabbly end up putting a 6.3 quad turbo in the coming 2008 2009 SL
6.3L engine!!!!!..... why the hell they need a N/A this big but a supercharger or turbo charger is the more efficient way to do it with about the same output........
they proabbly end up putting a 6.3 quad turbo in the coming 2008 2009 SL
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fi is great, but all motor n/a tuning is more desirable in my opinion. true, i can't see 0-60 times falling from the current amg fleet, maybe 0-100 won't even reflect much of an improvement, depends on gearing. 0-150 will show more improvement. true, mtimmy, lots of power is hard to put down from a stop. however, consider this: if you look at the current amg 55's, the torque potential is massive but peaks early and dies down. that said, the 55's torque is monstrous as it is. such torque is generated quickly...this can be partly attributed to the supercharger type being used, i.e. positive displacement twin-screw, and its inherent qualities. the twin-screw blowers create great torque down low, and the resulting power creates characteristics mimicing a bigger engine, hence it is grouped with "positive displacement" superchargers. the powerband is strong but focuses on low and mid-range, making it hard to launch, and not as strong on the top end. no doubt, the top end is well strong enough! second is cooling. since the twin-screw blower is mounted on the intake manifold, there isn't much room for upgrading the intercooler. no doubt the current amg's are awesome, and fi offers a fantastic platform for modification, but i like seeing a change in MB.
some things undesiarable with f/i: consistency (heat soak) and reliability. n/a minimizes these factors and provides better platform for driving the car at the track, faster throttle resopnse, greater predictability in mid-corner throttle modulation, etc.
some things undesiarable with f/i: consistency (heat soak) and reliability. n/a minimizes these factors and provides better platform for driving the car at the track, faster throttle resopnse, greater predictability in mid-corner throttle modulation, etc.
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I wanna see an E63 with a kleeman blower on it. Honestly i dont see a limit to the HP that you can develop (think about cars in the 80s, im sure there were people who thought they had reached the upper boundaries of HP numbers then), but i do think that there is alot of room for improvement in other areas of the cars (drivetrain, transmission, maybe an F1 style launch control system like you can get in some Ferraris). Also, anyone notice how 1000HP+ supras can launch no problem? I think when you get right down to it, MB just needs some wider rear wheels and stickier tires. You cant expect to be putting down that much power to medium width rear wheels, that or maybe go to an all wheel drive system, but i dont see that happening.
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Just to remind here, those who love sporty looking MB cars with 4-door; there will be a "CLS-version concept" of 2007 C-Class ( may be called CLE )
Should get your hands off the CLK like E owners gets their hands off and go for a CLS.
Should get your hands off the CLK like E owners gets their hands off and go for a CLS.
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Yes, this new totally AMG designed and built AMG normally aspirated engine was covered in the new issue of R&T. Seems like AMG wants a bigger piece of the high performance pie.
As always, with more and more AMG's out there, the exclusivity attached to the name will be severly diluted. Man, there are little old ladies tooling down the road now in their big Benz' with 500 HP under their patent leather strapped pump right foot and they don't have a clue what to do with them!
As always, with more and more AMG's out there, the exclusivity attached to the name will be severly diluted. Man, there are little old ladies tooling down the road now in their big Benz' with 500 HP under their patent leather strapped pump right foot and they don't have a clue what to do with them!
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Oh finnally pleaaaaaaaseeeeee AMG Do that, Put whole 510 hp and 465 trq into CLK !!!! Thats gonna be one awesome car!!!
I also dont belive it tho... untill i see it!!
gj AMG! They are on a right track with that decision!!!
I also dont belive it tho... untill i see it!!
gj AMG! They are on a right track with that decision!!!
