Ran against a C55 in the quarter mile....**crappy VID**
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Ran against a C55 in the quarter mile....**crappy VID**
Keep in mind, we're in Utah at 4500 feet. Most people that want faster times drive down to Vegas and erase at least .5 seconds from their time and add 3-5 mph.
That being said, I raced an acquaintances 2005 C55 with less than 10k miles on it and beat him. My all-seasons don't grip for ****!!!! My 60' times were horrendous:
My time (W209 CLK55): 14.2 @ 100.69 mph (2.35 60' time)
Hist time: 14.3 @ 102.11 mph (2.2 60' time)
I forgot to bring out my new camcorder, so I had a buddy use my POS digi-cam (normally used for still photos).
That being said, I raced an acquaintances 2005 C55 with less than 10k miles on it and beat him. My all-seasons don't grip for ****!!!! My 60' times were horrendous:
My time (W209 CLK55): 14.2 @ 100.69 mph (2.35 60' time)
Hist time: 14.3 @ 102.11 mph (2.2 60' time)
I forgot to bring out my new camcorder, so I had a buddy use my POS digi-cam (normally used for still photos).
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Originally Posted by bradb1us
Keep in mind, we're in Utah at 4500 feet. Most people that want faster times drive down to Vegas and erase at least .5 seconds from their time and add 3-5 mph.
That being said, I raced an acquaintances 2005 C55 with less than 10k miles on it and beat him. My all-seasons don't grip for ****!!!! My 60' times were horrendous:
My time (W209 CLK55): 14.2 @ 100.69 mph (2.35 60' time)
Hist time: 14.3 @ 102.11 mph (2.2 60' time)
That being said, I raced an acquaintances 2005 C55 with less than 10k miles on it and beat him. My all-seasons don't grip for ****!!!! My 60' times were horrendous:
My time (W209 CLK55): 14.2 @ 100.69 mph (2.35 60' time)
Hist time: 14.3 @ 102.11 mph (2.2 60' time)
) with better launches. Put some real rubber on that thing!! 
Surprised your trap speed isn't a bit higher....this could be partially due to the 60', but I'd also check your tire pressure and use better gas next time...good luck!
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Originally Posted by Jaki
good kill. Just get some nice Tires and work on your 60'. Do you have any mods?
Bone friggin' stock. Want to recommend a starting point? Does an intake and exhaust actually do anything to these cars?
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Originally Posted by Stiggs
Does the C55 have the same horsepower and torque as the CLK55? I figured the C55 might be lighter and win...is that true?
I've always been confused about that--why is the C55 lighter when it has two more doors???
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Does the C55 have the same horsepower and torque as the CLK55? I figured the C55 might be lighter and win...is that true?
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Originally Posted by bradb1us
Bone friggin' stock. Want to recommend a starting point? Does an intake and exhaust actually do anything to these cars?
A GOOD set of tires. In fact, I personally would get drag radials (I'm a bit extreme, thats why I would get drag radials). Just the rears, as thats all you need for a rwd. A LSD to help out with the launch, and a suspension set up. To get a good launch, you need softer springs and shocks, that way, when you launch the weight is shifted to the back, and pressure is put on your rear tires. Thus making them grab without spinning. Coilovers would be great for that. At the strip you make it softer, so you can get great launches, and on the street you make them a little harder to get great handling.
The 1/4 mile is all about the launch. You can have all the power in the world, but if you don't have good traction, then you're time won't improve much at all. The strip is not long enough for you to be able to make up for bad traction.
If you want to improve both, 1/4 mile and top end, then I'd suggest to make the car breath easier. Do intake, headers, exhaust, downpipes, get some lighter pullies, and a tune. Intake and ehxuast won't do you too much if thats the only thing you get. You will still have the headers and downpipes restricting you before the gases reach the exhaust. I personally would do headers and downpipes before the exhaust, just to get the gases out of the engine as fast as possible.
Loosing some weight and adding a 50-75 shot of nitrous never hurts.
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Originally Posted by Jaki
If you want to improve your launch and you're quarter mile time, and are not worried much about top end, then this is what I would recommend:
A GOOD set of tires. In fact, I personally would get drag radials (I'm a bit extreme, thats why I would get drag radials). Just the rears, as thats all you need for a rwd. A LSD to help out with the launch, and a suspension set up. To get a good launch, you need softer springs and shocks, that way, when you launch the weight is shifted to the back, and pressure is put on your rear tires. Thus making them grab without spinning. Coilovers would be great for that. At the strip you make it softer, so you can get great launches, and on the street you make them a little harder to get great handling.
The 1/4 mile is all about the launch. You can have all the power in the world, but if you don't have good traction, then you're time won't improve much at all. The strip is not long enough for you to be able to make up for bad traction.
If you want to improve both, 1/4 mile and top end, then I'd suggest to make the car breath easier. Do intake, headers, exhaust, downpipes, get some lighter pullies, and a tune. Intake and ehxuast won't do you too much if thats the only thing you get. You will still have the headers and downpipes restricting you before the gases reach the exhaust. I personally would do headers and downpipes before the exhaust, just to get the gases out of the engine as fast as possible.
Loosing some weight and adding a 50-75 shot of nitrous never hurts.
A GOOD set of tires. In fact, I personally would get drag radials (I'm a bit extreme, thats why I would get drag radials). Just the rears, as thats all you need for a rwd. A LSD to help out with the launch, and a suspension set up. To get a good launch, you need softer springs and shocks, that way, when you launch the weight is shifted to the back, and pressure is put on your rear tires. Thus making them grab without spinning. Coilovers would be great for that. At the strip you make it softer, so you can get great launches, and on the street you make them a little harder to get great handling.
The 1/4 mile is all about the launch. You can have all the power in the world, but if you don't have good traction, then you're time won't improve much at all. The strip is not long enough for you to be able to make up for bad traction.
If you want to improve both, 1/4 mile and top end, then I'd suggest to make the car breath easier. Do intake, headers, exhaust, downpipes, get some lighter pullies, and a tune. Intake and ehxuast won't do you too much if thats the only thing you get. You will still have the headers and downpipes restricting you before the gases reach the exhaust. I personally would do headers and downpipes before the exhaust, just to get the gases out of the engine as fast as possible.
Loosing some weight and adding a 50-75 shot of nitrous never hurts.
Here's another run between me and my buddy in his clean E36 M3:
http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2006011avi.flv
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I see Jaki had some good advice...I agree w/ it. Also, if not drag radials, just get the softest summer tires you can afford if you wanna keep the same set of tires. The hardcore people I know keep a 2nd set of wheels/tires for track use only while others just buy max performance summer tires if they're on a budget.
Also, nice sig pic, too.
Also, nice sig pic, too.
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Originally Posted by Stiggs
maybe the C is heavier...I don't have the stats. It just looks smaller to me. I assume the two are very, very close in performance. I like two doors better anyway!
Funny, I thought the C would weigh more, too, because it's a sedan.
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Originally Posted by mcbaes72
I looked up the curb weight (ConsumerGuide.com) on both the CLK and C-Class and they came up to about 200 lbs. difference (CLK = 3500 lbs. & C-Class = 3300 lbs.). But this may be the base model weight for both. Still, it shouldn't be too much different when you fix up both cars the same way.
Funny, I thought the C would weigh more, too, because it's a sedan.
Funny, I thought the C would weigh more, too, because it's a sedan.
That makes no sense....is the CL heavier than the S Class?
I'm confused as to why a two door version of the same car would weigh more than the 4 door counterpart....
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Hey Brad,
When did you go to the track? What time did you arrive at the track and how many runs did you get in? Also, what rpm did you stage at for your launch?
Allan
When did you go to the track? What time did you arrive at the track and how many runs did you get in? Also, what rpm did you stage at for your launch?
Allan
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Hey Brad,
When did you go to the track? What time did you arrive at the track and how many runs did you get in? Also, what rpm did you stage at for your launch?
Allan
When did you go to the track? What time did you arrive at the track and how many runs did you get in? Also, what rpm did you stage at for your launch?
Allan
I went last Friday for the "Midnight Drags" at Rocky Mountain Raceway. It's pretty ghetto and most of the cars are just 18 year olds with riced out civics--but it's the only time I had available to drag race. There were a couple of Porsches and Vipers, however....
I tried several different methods--but my tires don't grip at all, so I basically could only powerbrake to about 1400 rpms or I would simply peel out too bad when the light turned green.
The guy in the C55 said he could powerbrake to about 2500 rpms and not lose traction....apparently he just put on brand new Pirelli P Zeros with a lot of grip. They're also a lot wider than mine are (I have skinny 245/45/17's)....
I'll PM you before I go out next time....it'd be cool to line up against each other and get it on tape!
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Originally Posted by bradb1us
That makes no sense....is the CL heavier than the S Class?
I'm confused as to why a two door version of the same car would weigh more than the 4 door counterpart....
I'm confused as to why a two door version of the same car would weigh more than the 4 door counterpart....
As for the CL vs. S, here's their weight from Consumer Guide ('06 model)...
CL = 4085 lbs.
S = 3980 lbs.
Wow again...the S-Class is over 100 lbs. lighter. Amazing!
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Originally Posted by bradb1us
That makes no sense....is the CL heavier than the S Class?
I'm confused as to why a two door version of the same car would weigh more than the 4 door counterpart....
I'm confused as to why a two door version of the same car would weigh more than the 4 door counterpart....
i wonder if the W208 CLK430 is heavier than it's 4 door W210 E430 counterpart........
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Hey Brad,
I am shooting for the 09/22 midnight drag but I will have tire issues as well. I wouldn't mind the practice as I haven't been for about 5 years and that was at the New England dragway. It would be good to run the to cars together if possible but my memory of stagging was that this difficult. Could you arrange it with you buddy in the C55? Just email me at allan@lawdesk.com next time you go and I will see if I can make it.
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I am shooting for the 09/22 midnight drag but I will have tire issues as well. I wouldn't mind the practice as I haven't been for about 5 years and that was at the New England dragway. It would be good to run the to cars together if possible but my memory of stagging was that this difficult. Could you arrange it with you buddy in the C55? Just email me at allan@lawdesk.com next time you go and I will see if I can make it.
Allan
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the CLK55 is a heavier car.
The C55 weight in at 2115 kg and the new CLK63 weight in at 2175 kg. The CLK63 is probably lighter than the CLK55 it replaced.
two door version of the car are usually heavier because they need to strengthen the structure hence added material. Especially with the CL and the CLK which doesn't have the B-pillar. Same reason any convertible is going to be heavier than the coupe.
back to topic, the time C55 and the CLK55 posted are nearly identical, but the C55 traps faster due to less weight. The time doesn't tell much actually because they only start to time it when you leave the line, so one may react quicker and still post a slower time. Due to many reason, traction for one. You may react slower, but hook up quicker for better time slip, and he may react quicker, but still fighting for traction. my only conclusion is that C55 will edge out the CLK55 and you both can get better time with practice. LOL. oh yea, I don't believe he/C55 can powerbrake at 2500rpm without losing traction. I've drove friend's C55 with PS2 and it doesn't take much to brake traction. Hell, my car doesn't even powerbrake that high without losing traction and I don't have that much torque even with the pulley.
The C55 weight in at 2115 kg and the new CLK63 weight in at 2175 kg. The CLK63 is probably lighter than the CLK55 it replaced.
two door version of the car are usually heavier because they need to strengthen the structure hence added material. Especially with the CL and the CLK which doesn't have the B-pillar. Same reason any convertible is going to be heavier than the coupe.
back to topic, the time C55 and the CLK55 posted are nearly identical, but the C55 traps faster due to less weight. The time doesn't tell much actually because they only start to time it when you leave the line, so one may react quicker and still post a slower time. Due to many reason, traction for one. You may react slower, but hook up quicker for better time slip, and he may react quicker, but still fighting for traction. my only conclusion is that C55 will edge out the CLK55 and you both can get better time with practice. LOL. oh yea, I don't believe he/C55 can powerbrake at 2500rpm without losing traction. I've drove friend's C55 with PS2 and it doesn't take much to brake traction. Hell, my car doesn't even powerbrake that high without losing traction and I don't have that much torque even with the pulley.
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LOL. oh yea, I don't believe he/C55 can powerbrake at 2500rpm without losing traction. I've drove friend's C55 with PS2 and it doesn't take much to brake traction. Hell, my car doesn't even powerbrake that high without losing traction and I don't have that much torque even with the pulley.
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Yeah, that's for sure....hell, most of the time, I can't even powerbrake at 1500 rpm without breaking traction, and I've got 275's on the back!! Friggin arseholes at Mercedes, putting cars w/nearly 400 lb-ft out with no limited slip diff!! Grrr....
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Yeah, OK, so change that to "Friggin arseholes at Mercedes USA" then, lol!!
definitely. They're the one who made the decision to give all the sport sedan AMG kit and all the luxury sedan Avantgarde bodykit.
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Originally Posted by jtc55
hey brad u must of pulled on him hard b/c it looks like from the vid that u were behind him about 1 car length from side view. nice run.
He outlaunched me and mid way through second gear I started pulling ever-so-slightly. Every other gear was pretty much dead even.
Thanks for the comments, guys!
