Learso

Derrick,

The "AMG55" plate I have owned since 2001, when I bought the car, so maybe it is from another state? I don't know what the rules are to vanity plates for other states.

Saint,

I really wanted to get your exhaust pipes but for some reason I hear they don't make it for my car any longer, bummer. I will see you soon for sure as I always see your car when I go to the gym. Your car looks super tight too man btw.

Chappy,

Looking forway to seeing you this month and chatting a bit. Rides open early so bring your lunch and enjoy!

AMG55,

Thanks for the tip on the K&N filters, I think I will entertaine this idea soon just to see what the results show on the Dyno. This product has been know (according to what MB says) to mess up the air sensors if you try and clean it and then replace it..oil can get in I guess. My guess is just replace it.

There is still some work that needs to be done on the car for it to be perfect but they are just some details. I think there is a slight leak of exhaust where the downpipes join the headers. But for the most part its fine. I really wish I could have gotten the Kleemann exhaust to kick it up a notch....BAAAM!


Holson,

Yes, that is Luis Boston on Sunday AM. You, NitrogenBalance, Zaint, and me all live close...we should absolutely take a nice drive soon. My car now prefers cooler dryer days so even fall is cool with me.

JAM55,

I have hesistated putting it on the Dyno until the little details are worked out and the weather is more cooperative not to be disappointed or fustrated. But it going to happen.


Learso

nishi

I guess I'll stick to using "NISHI" on my plate, I'll be the only NISHI in boston at least i won't see derrick drive on campus with the AMG55 plate, maybe AMG32 since he was stupid enough to downgrade to a C32 from his C55! IDIOT DERRICK!

scrapes55

niceeeee !...

rubberninja

wow! how much did that cost!? I want one!!

Dan Wang

I really want to know how they fit the HFM on the car. Any know?

dragonAMG

Yes this is true. Kleemann recommended that I use stock air filters on my C55K S7. On a stock engine you can probably get away with using them and not screw anything up, but with a supercharger it is a whole different story... don't take the chance, make sure you're running stock air filters. The extra 1-2 hp isn't worth it.

clk22

Your ride is sweet man!! Love the kleeman blower!! Hopefully ill see it around town.

BeNzTeK

wow man unbielivable!!!!!!!! congrats someday ill be ready

blackbenzz

Congrats! I was going to pick up that s/c but was too scared to pull the trigger. Any dyno numbers yet? Didnt see you at AMGfest either.

Learso

I was driving down with two cars to AMG fest when I heard a significant raddle underneath my CLK. It turned out to be that the shop, KTR Performance, yet again could not get the Cats to fit evenly spaced between underneath and was causing a rattling. I took the car to MB and they lifted it and I saw the crappy job they did. It was enough for me to can the AMG event to avoid any damage to the car. I was furious!!!! The headers are at an angle the make it difficult, not impossible, to make it fit right underneath. The problem is that their laim attempts were just not even close.

The car will be ready this week. A Master MB tech whom I have befriended here in Boston has realized the problem and will be doing all the corrections himself...enough KTR. As an added bonus to myself for not going I have bought and are in the processes of installing Kleemann progressive sport springs to the suspension. I will try the Springs out hoping that they do become considerably stiffer at higher speed as advertised and, if so, will proceed to sell my Euro-spec AMG Springs. Any one interested? Please PM me if so.

I really hope we can all meet up when all these problems are resolved with my exhaust. The rest of the car is perfect and mean. The numbers of the Dyno reflected somthing like 397rwhp. I don't know what this adds up to in HP rartings but I can tell you three things: 1. the Dyno test should be done in 3rd gear but the problem in doing this is that the car wants to downshift as soon as you punch it while in 3rd gear; 2. the air needed to generate an accurate duplication of the wind at highspeed is not also possible with a large fan; and 3. the temperature and humidity levels have been less then favorable while testing. Therefore I think these numbers could be significantly improved upon under better circumstances. Having said that, the car is without questions unbelievable fast and makes the front wheels quite "light" to the touch off the line. You need to fully concerntrate on what you are doing. The torque at higher speeds is amazing too. What the car now has is a bit of "out-of-control-ness" that it did not have before, more raw in the delivery of power. This makes it I think more fun that say an M6 or a new CLK63 where the 7 speed transmission limits the huge burst of power from getting too out of hand.

I really wish I could have met up with everyone and enjoyed at least a nice Saturday of driving and good conversation.

Let's see if I can make the next one real soon.

Learso

rsr911

Learso,

You have a PM. I will take your springs!!!

Owen

NitrogenBalance

Did you have some additional exhaust work done also? or was something moved or done in order to install the S/C. I'm kinda lost here. So your primary or secondary cats were hitting something? I assume they are up high right near the lower fire wall similar to my W202.

I think your car makes about 300hp at the wheels stock. Seems like it should be making at least 400whp. +79hp from a Kleeman doesn't seem right. I got a shade over 100hp at the wheels with a non-intercooled HPSGen1. Mine ended at 342whp. Somethin's not right here.

Also, next time you dyno it in 3rd floor it until the pedal just touches but doesn't activate the kickdown switch under the pedal. It's tricky but thats how we got mine dyno successfully.

Chappy

Sorry we missed you....perhaps at a future GTG!

GDawgC220

Wow, very nice! Gotta keep an eye out for you around Boston!

KTR does good work from what I hear, gets good reviews from guys over on AudiWorld who go there for tuning. Hope things go well with you and them about your issue with the cats.

Learso

Nitro,

The stock CLK55 W208 make around 292-305 rwhp and my made something like 295 or 297 if I am not mistaken. I think the numeric results are not accurate. Based on KTRs performance so far I can only assume they screwed that up too. Forget about the numbers, this car is insanely fast right now and I am absolutely sure that we are at least at 400 rwhp. I think is best to feel the performance than to get caught up on the numbers. My car has exhaust work done (read my signature), headers. The headers are welded up to where they meet up with the stock exhause pipes, at that point the are tightly sealed with bolts and o-ring sealers. This is done so that adjustments and future work can be done. Imagine if all was welded, it would be a huge headache. I think there are three cats on this car, the first are all together removed so this would be the second cats. They are banging up againts what looks like aluminum waffle textured wall (maybe this is a firewall) under the car. They are very poorly placed.

Chappy,
How was the event? Anthing coming up soon?

Learso

b3d_sage

I'm really looking forward to seeing how that Kleemann suspension turns out for you!

Chappy

There is a write-up coming w/pics (probably sometime this weekend).

Beowulf

Git on the Chappy write-up! . . . after you make peace with Mrs. Chappy!

Welcome back!

Ted Baldwin

...........a 400HP car at the Rear wheels is definitely no slouch. How you feel about the car is important but going from a non Kleemann to a Kleemann car is always going to feel incredibly fast and is perhaps not a good measure of the cars true power. The reason to dwell on your HP numbers is that it is possible that there is a mistake somewhere in your installation or tunning that is holding back some of your HP. For instance looking carefully at your A/F mixture and adjusting it appropriately can be good for an addtional 15 to 20 RWHP. Good luck and enjoy your car.

Ted

FrankW

400 at wheel is around 490 at crank. It's about right for the gain it can get on bolt on s/c. 140-150 hp increase.

Ted Baldwin

.............I actually agree with you. Contrary to all the claims, it looks like this is the true expected HP gain from a Kleemann s/c. For HPS it is around 360RWHP and Renntech is a bit above 360. ALL those that have had more HP gains have all had additional work done to their car. I think part of the problem is that ALL these tuners inflate their expected HP gains leaving customers dissasitisfied. Each tuner always has a fan club leader that helps them promote these inflated HP numbers. But if you look closely none of these fan club leaders has ever published a RWHP dynograph of their car. So it is refreshing in a way to see someone who does't care about the numbers. However, this has nothing to do with tunning his car and adjusting A/F ratios for more power....if possible.

Ted

Learso

Agreed.

But the problem may also lie in a less than perfect dyno. The people at KTR Performance noted it was very hard to do the dyno test because the car kept down shifting when in 3rd. Also, the air that is needed was probably less than perfect judging from the fan they had. Lastly, the temperature and humidity readings were also not favorable. My guess is that these numbers would change if done again by someone who is familiar with the car. Not making excuses just adding variables to consider. Tuning a car requires, as I have learned this summer, exactly that...lots of fine tuning.

Like I mentioned before, my car is still in the shop fixing the poorly installed exhaust and while there will get overlooked again one last time in conjuction with Kleemann to see that all is as it should. At first the numbers were dissapointing relative to what is advertise but I am very satisfied with the end results nonetheless. The near 600hp that Kleemann advertises on the web is IMO far from what can be achieved with my car. But I guess all tuners are guilty of hype to some extent. On Kleemann's defense, they have been exceptionally helpful and on their customer services alone they get my vote for my next car.

I get the car back with new Kleemann springs and completed on Tuesday. Once I drive it for about 300 miles I will dyno it again and post results.


Learso

FrankW

agreed with you both. keep us updated Learso.

blackbenzz

Did you ever get the exhaust problem fixed and redyno the car?

dimit

Did you ever install the new springs???? If you have the Euro-Spec Springs I would like to buy them. THANkS!