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INFO: Which Brembo Kits fit the W208 and W209?

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 03:55 AM
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INFO: Which Brembo Kits fit the W208 and W209?

Hey guys,
Lately there is a lot of talk on the forums about Brembo kits, what fits each specific model, how much it costs, etc.

As your top source for Brembo, we wanted to post up the kits that fit your car, and give you guys some links to our website, so that you can see that there are actually some affordable options, in addition to the larger systems.


The kits that fit your Mercedes W208 or W209 (Both AMG and Non AMG Fitments Available) are as follows:



332mm 2PC 4 Piston Front




355mm 4 Piston Front




328mm 2PC Rear


These kits are all optimized and designed by Brembo Engineers to decrease unsprung weight, reduce brake fade, and decrease stopping distance by 20-30 Percent when used with the proper tires. These braking systems are perfect for use on and off the track!

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-Visit www.JleviSW.com by clicking the links above
-Call our toll free number, 1.888.JLEVISW
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-Send an IM to "Jlevi SW" or "Nick at JSW"

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:11 AM
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Here are the fitments for the CLK63!



380mm 8 Piston Front




345mm 4 Piston Rear


Enjoy!
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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Will changing the front/rear brakes on a CLK500 change the "feel" of the brakes? How much will the change in unsprung weight (is it THAT big a difference in weight??) show itself in handling? Improve stopping with "proper tires" is an open question. Of course proper tires can make a different. ABS will keep the wheels from skidding, but for apples to apples how much will the upgraded brakes effect brake performance on factory stock tires?

In the case of the CLK500 (not AMG), does it make sense to increase the wheel size to 18 inches at the same time? Given the size of these brakes, is a wheel size upgrade REQUIRED? I know there are all sorts of benefits to wheel size change, but replacing four alloy wheels and tires is no small change - never mind the combined cost of the Brembo's and installation.

I am pretty sure that the wheel size change will require dealer reprogramming to keep the speedo and nav working correctly. Am I right?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Will changing the front/rear brakes on a CLK500 change the "feel" of the brakes? How much will the change in unsprung weight (is it THAT big a difference in weight??) show itself in handling? Improve stopping with "proper tires" is an open question. Of course proper tires can make a different. ABS will keep the wheels from skidding, but for apples to apples how much will the upgraded brakes effect brake performance on factory stock tires?

In the case of the CLK500 (not AMG), does it make sense to increase the wheel size to 18 inches at the same time? Given the size of these brakes, is a wheel size upgrade REQUIRED? I know there are all sorts of benefits to wheel size change, but replacing four alloy wheels and tires is no small change - never mind the combined cost of the Brembo's and installation.

I am pretty sure that the wheel size change will require dealer reprogramming to keep the speedo and nav working correctly. Am I right?
I'm no expert on brakes but I have been researching this topic on this and other sites and this is what I have learned :

1. A wheel size upgrade to 18 inches is required for the 208 CLK if you want to use the biggest size (355mm) brembo brake available. I'm not sure what the story is for the 209 or the other, smaller sizes but if you're going to make the change (which is not particularly inexpensive) you might as well go big.

2. Brakes do not stop cars. Tires stop cars. Thus the claim of 20 percent increase is entirely dependent on the tires. Going to a bigger wheel and wider tires will give you more contact with the road and more potential stopping power.

3. The Brembo BBKs maximize your tire's potential stopping power because they will resist fade better than the stock brakes. This makes little or no difference in regular street driving but does make a difference in track driving or repeated stops from high speeds. In these applications, the benefit of upgraded brakes is real, as seen by AMG's decision to use 18 inch wheels and cross drilled brakes on the 208 F1 Safety car (1997-2000) even though no mods were done to the engine.

4. The stock AMG brakes are already very good, in terms of stopping power and feel. Indeed Road and Track called the 208 55 brakes "sublime". The 430/500 CLKs have good brakes too, but the're smaller. So it makes more sense to upgrade a non-AMG car. However, even 55 owners have reported that they "feel" they have more stopping power when they do the upgrade.

5. The real advantage of the Brembo BBK for an AMG car if your're not doing track driving is the reduction of unsprung weight. The 208 brakes are a monoblock design whereas in these Brembos the rotors "float" on aluminum "hats". The 4 piston caliper assembly is also made of aluminum. There is a savings of something like 5 - 10 pounds per wheel which is significant because we're talking unsprung weight. I'm not sure what the setup is for the 209 55 AMG, but the new CLK 63s have floating rotors so the're may be no advantage there in switching to Brembos. I see above that Brembo is now selling even bigger rotors with 8 piston calipers for the 63. That might help on the track in extreme situations but the change is probably going to add unsprung weight -- I wouldn't do it.

6. Each to his own, but IMO these brakes improve the looks of the car. If you go with 18 or 19 inch rims and don't increase the rotor size all of the sudden the brakes of the car start looking a little wimpy.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Thanks.. This is about the most thorough and helpful description I have seen on the subject.

Cheers - dan
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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I have the 355mm Brembo's but they wont go on til feb. when I get my DPE wheels. I'll let you guys know if I feel a difference. The CLK55 brakes are already amazing!
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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neilbo75 - Wow! You answered every question perfectly. Interested in a job?

Keep the questions rolling, if I don't check this thread enough, our new employee neilbo will be around I'm sure
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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neilbo75 - Wow! You answered every question perfectly. Interested in a job?

Keep the questions rolling, if I don't check this thread enough, our new employee neilbo will be around I'm sure
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How about a free brake kit?
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Thanks for the job offer, but I already spend too much time on the boards away from my real job. Besides I'm just a wannabe trying to figure out what to do when the twelve month warranty on my CLK 55 expires next month.

Blackbenzz amongst others knows much more than me -- he's living the dream!
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