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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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E39 M5 vs. W208 Clk55

how do u guyz think Clk55 would match against the E39 (older ) M5.

the M5 is supposed to have about 400hp and 360tq, but weighs like 600 pounds more than the Clk.

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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how do u guyz think Clk55 would match against the E39 (older ) M5.

the M5 is supposed to have about 400hp and 360tq, but weighs like 600 pounds more than the Clk.

kill stories would be nice
I would guess that the ///M5 would have the advantage. There is the power advantage, plus it is a manual. 600lbs is a big difference, however, so that could be somewhat of an equalizer.

If I had to pick, though, I'd say the ///M
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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close enough where it would be dependent on the driver. given = drivers and conditions, the nod goes to the M5 by about a tenth or 2.......
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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i thought the clk55 had more power because of 376tq
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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I have driven a DINAN E39 M5 my friend owns. The M5's even stock have major clutch issues and I smoked it with out even trying. So with a little luck you will run up against one of these. Game over CLK 55 WINNER
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Dragtimes.com has the E39 M5 running all kinds of times - most are within a tenth or two of many W208/55 runs (stock vs. stock).

It would be a driver's race. As Owen mentioned the E39 apparently had a tendency to bog off the line, so unless the owner is willing to sacrifice their clutch, a W208/55 would have a strong chance of winning as long as you could hook up.

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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Yeah, this guy with an E39 M5 wanted to run me one of these days. I said sure knowing he would probably dump his clutch at 4-5k rpm. E39 M5's are fast but they are hard to drive fast by the average driver IMO.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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I raced my buddy with his e39 m5 with my CLK500 and beat him 7 out of 7 times. Of course, he can't shift for his life and his clutch was on its way out

They're supposed to be pretty fast cars. Would be a great race.
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Depends on the driver...but here are some sources.
2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG 5.0 13.6
2001 BMW M5 4.7 13.2
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
I raced my buddy with his e39 m5 with my CLK500 and beat him 7 out of 7 times. Of course, he can't shift for his life and his clutch was on its way out

They're supposed to be pretty fast cars. Would be a great race.
There you go clutch issues again!
That having been said. YES they are a very fast car. Get one wound up and get it on a fun twisty road, (which is what these cars were built for not drag racing) The M5 is a pleasure to drive. As are our W208 CLK55s.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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What do CLK55's trap in q/m? A well driven E39 M5 will trap 108 no problem. I think the gearing of the M5 also comes into play. At lower speeds I'd say it'd be a close race b/w the two cars, but at 100+mph I think the M5 has an advantage.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MidniteBluBenz
What do CLK55's trap in q/m? A well driven E39 M5 will trap 108 no problem. I think the gearing of the M5 also comes into play. At lower speeds I'd say it'd be a close race b/w the two cars, but at 100+mph I think the M5 has an advantage.
Mine is stock down to the air filters. I've trapped 109.00.
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At lower speeds I'd say it'd be a close race b/w the two cars, but at 100+mph I think the M5 has an advantage.
not necessarily!
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Mine is stock down to the air filters. I've trapped 109.00.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chappy
Mine is stock down to the air filters. I've trapped 109.00.
do u know if ur dyno #s are average

btw, great trap. what the 1/4.
i think someone actually got 12.9 w/ a stock clk55
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Quant
do u know if ur dyno #s are average

btw, great trap. what the 1/4.
i think someone actually got 12.9 w/ a stock clk55
13.349 @ 109.00 with a 2.15 60' Our cars have significant traction issues. BTW, this was with 35psi in the stock tire size (245s in back), 1/2 tank of fuel and a full trunk (no spare, etc. removed). Stock air filters. Had I been 'serious' about the effort, I would have played with the tire pressure and emptied the trunk, but may have only netted another tenth and perhaps one more mph in the trap. I'm 198lb as of this morning.

For a stock W208/55, the best ET I recall was around 13.2X or 13.1X. Check dragtimes.com for more info on that.

As far as "average", I don't know. The other W208 CLK55 tested last fall in Atlanta (same day/same dyno) tested within a couple hp of me. One thing is for sure....W208 CLK55s are under-rated by at least 20 crank hp, according to the pro drag folks I've talked to (based on 1/4 results using weight, ET and trap speed).
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13.349 @ 109.00 with a 2.15 60' Our cars have significant traction issues. BTW, this was with 35psi in the stock tire size (245s in back), 1/2 tank of fuel and a full trunk (no spare, etc. removed). Stock air filters. Had I been 'serious' about the effort, I would have played with the tire pressure and emptied the trunk, but may have only netted another tenth and perhaps one more mph in the trap. I'm 198lb as of this morning.

For a stock W208/55, the best ET I recall was around 13.2X or 13.1X. Check dragtimes.com for more info on that.

As far as "average", I don't know. The other W208 CLK55 tested last fall in Atlanta (same day/same dyno) tested within a couple hp of me. One thing is for sure....W208 CLK55s are under-rated by at least 20 crank hp, according to the pro drag folks I've talked to (based on 1/4 results using weight, ET and trap speed).
Chappy if you did the things you mentioned you could have quite possibly ran high 12's especially with a good 60'. I have no doubt these cars can consistently run 13.0's and 1's to high 12's properly driven.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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Chappy if you did the things you mentioned you could have quite possibly ran high 12's especially with a good 60'. I have no doubt these cars can consistently run 13.0's and 1's to high 12's properly driven.
One of the track days in Louisiana next week will be configured for the drags. Since we've got the track to ourselves, I'm hoping to better my previous time.
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CLK55 w/ weight reduction mods... forget about it. You can take 150-200lbs out of a CLK easy and that would do wonders. Also you can do crank pulley as well as intake & chip... forget about it. Even modded E39 M5s would have trouble.
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From what I read in Car and Driver (the main reason we purchased my CLK55)

Btwn the BMW, CLK, and the Maserati, the CLK won the battle, with the BMW comming in 2nd
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but in the twisties...
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but in the twisties...
Naw, not even! E39 was great for such a heavy car, but even with its LSD advantage it didn't turn a quicker 'ring lap than the 208 CLK55...
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Naw, not even! E39 was great for such a heavy car, but even with its LSD advantage it didn't turn a quicker 'ring lap than the 208 CLK55...
Improviz, didn't you just run against a couple of E39's???
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Improviz, didn't you just run against a couple of E39's???
Yup....there's a thread in this forum w/links to the vids.
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Originally Posted by Quant
do u know if ur dyno #s are average

btw, great trap. what the 1/4.
i think someone actually got 12.9 w/ a stock clk55
i got 11.7 but i think my ecu iss tuned idk bought it at auction years ago lol its quite a bit faster than others i've driven..and now its part for a supercharger come to find out my intake mani is ported and polished from hell its like a mirror finish in there ill have to get some pics so i imagine if they went that far its tuned...
My business partner just bought an e39 got it yesterday so we will have plenty of vids only problem is ill be supercharged next time i get the 55 out lol
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