CLK55 AMG question - years/performance
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CLK55 AMG question - years/performance
In the near future I’m looking to purchase an used CLK55 AMG. I'm not set on the year but had a few questions. Power increased in 2003 – up 20 hp? I think the 2003 is heavier by 200 lbs? Does this power increase bump performance over say, a 2002 model or are they roughly the same cause of the wieght?
For 2005 – the dual exhausts. Are those true dual exhausts over the earlier years? Any performance difference if so?
About modifications – most the modification stuff I see is pretty extravagant. For example the Kleeman kits – stage 1 bumps up to over 500 hp. I’ve seen other minor mods giving 10 to 20 hp but wondering if there is a middle ground? Say I wanted to get up to 400 hp? Can these cars be modded to add 50 hp 100 hp without a supercharger?
Thanks and can’t wait to be an owner....
For 2005 – the dual exhausts. Are those true dual exhausts over the earlier years? Any performance difference if so?
About modifications – most the modification stuff I see is pretty extravagant. For example the Kleeman kits – stage 1 bumps up to over 500 hp. I’ve seen other minor mods giving 10 to 20 hp but wondering if there is a middle ground? Say I wanted to get up to 400 hp? Can these cars be modded to add 50 hp 100 hp without a supercharger?
Thanks and can’t wait to be an owner....
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the 2002 and earlier cars are W208's. In 2003, the W209 was released which is a new chassis and design. Also, 2005+ W209 cars have an updated interior and switched from the D2B internal connectivity to the newer MOST system. The dual tips are just that, tips and do not add any performance.
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Please look up any of my threads or posts. IMHP the hinge point is the Exhaust system. You can Chip It, Air Box it, Filter it. I went down this road. None of those offered what I was expecting. Then I headed for the Exhaust system , I found the engine Manifolds ( Log Type) to be very restrictive at the outlet flange. The Rest of the under cars exhaust system is pretty damn good. And large enough to flow that N/A motor. I retained the stock AMG muffler , but installed Kleemann headers & 200 cell Cats. I did not hack up the eom cats & exhaust pipes , I saved them as a complete stock system & saved those pieces in the garage attic. and built the system with 2.5" S.S. pipe , too a flowmaster Y pipe , outlet was 3" single to the rest of the cars OEM system. The car Jumped to life. Moral of the story , If it cann't exhale , any you do to the inlet side just will not work effectively. Then of Course their is Force induction. Expensive !!!. I think my final number was 341 RWHP / 360 FT lbs RWTQ , comes to about 425 Crank HP. Look at Kleemann or VRP headers
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Thanks for all the info. I'm learning more and more about these cars. I hope to pick one up in the next 6 months.
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And do not listen to the haters who say that a Nissan/Infiniti G35 can outperform the CLK, with the exception of maybe a 320. Those kind of people have been reading too many car magazines and haven't been driving enough.
I never lost a race to a stock G35 in my CLK430, and won't lose to them in my 55 fo' sure!
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Good to hear, J-Mo. I have owned at CLK430 for 5 years and CLK55 for 1 and they are great cars.
And do not listen to the haters who say that a Nissan/Infiniti G35 can outperform the CLK, with the exception of maybe a 320. Those kind of people have been reading too many car magazines and haven't been driving enough.
I never lost a race to a stock G35 in my CLK430, and won't lose to them in my 55 fo' sure!
And do not listen to the haters who say that a Nissan/Infiniti G35 can outperform the CLK, with the exception of maybe a 320. Those kind of people have been reading too many car magazines and haven't been driving enough.
I never lost a race to a stock G35 in my CLK430, and won't lose to them in my 55 fo' sure!
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Verdad Gallardoi really want to know which one is faster, W208 or W209. some one race them already
i'll be in E-town with my W208 on March 5th, maybe someone with a stock W209 can also come. if you go by Mags, the W209 is faster. but so would a 6L GTO, STI, and E46 M3, which i (actually tied GTO) beat.
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I know! But believe it or not, there are guys in Off-topic who have never owned a CLK430 or 55 that say stuff like the G35 is more sporting than a CLK and will blow its doors off.
What a crock of isht from guys who never owned a CLK before.
If the CLK is so "non-sporty" then why would Benz make their DTM cars based off the W208 chassis and the new CLK63 AMG Black Series off the W209!
What a crock of isht from guys who never owned a CLK before.
If the CLK is so "non-sporty" then why would Benz make their DTM cars based off the W208 chassis and the new CLK63 AMG Black Series off the W209!
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i really want to know which one is faster, W208 or W209. some one race them already
i'll be in E-town with my W208 on March 5th, maybe someone with a stock W209 can also come. if you go by Mags, the W209 is faster. but so would a 6L GTO, STI, and E46 M3, which i (actually tied GTO) beat.
i'll be in E-town with my W208 on March 5th, maybe someone with a stock W209 can also come. if you go by Mags, the W209 is faster. but so would a 6L GTO, STI, and E46 M3, which i (actually tied GTO) beat.
Either way, both cars are supercar performance without the need for an S/C. Which makes our cars more reliable in the long run and easier to maintain!
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I know! But believe it or not, there are guys in Off-topic who have never owned a CLK430 or 55 that say stuff like the G35 is more sporting than a CLK and will blow its doors off.
What a crock of isht from guys who never owned a CLK before.
If the CLK is so "non-sporty" then why would Benz make their DTM cars based off the W208 chassis and the new CLK63 AMG Black Series off the W209!
What a crock of isht from guys who never owned a CLK before.
If the CLK is so "non-sporty" then why would Benz make their DTM cars based off the W208 chassis and the new CLK63 AMG Black Series off the W209!
I test drove a 03 CLK55 about 2 months ago and that is what sold me and why I'm checking them out (planning to get one). G35's are everywhere and they are cheap to purchased used. Folks buy an used one and are all proud of themselves because now they have a sports car. No thanks. Anyway - I probably see 3 G35's on the road per day....lucky if I see 3 CLK55's a month.
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Please look up any of my threads or posts. IMHP the hinge point is the Exhaust system. You can Chip It, Air Box it, Filter it. I went down this road. None of those offered what I was expecting. Then I headed for the Exhaust system , I found the engine Manifolds ( Log Type) to be very restrictive at the outlet flange. The Rest of the under cars exhaust system is pretty damn good. And large enough to flow that N/A motor. I retained the stock AMG muffler , but installed Kleemann headers & 200 cell Cats. I did not hack up the eom cats & exhaust pipes , I saved them as a complete stock system & saved those pieces in the garage attic. and built the system with 2.5" S.S. pipe , too a flowmaster Y pipe , outlet was 3" single to the rest of the cars OEM system. The car Jumped to life. Moral of the story , If it cann't exhale , any you do to the inlet side just will not work effectively. Then of Course their is Force induction. Expensive !!!. I think my final number was 341 RWHP / 360 FT lbs RWTQ , comes to about 425 Crank HP. Look at Kleemann or VRP headers
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Well I didn't go back and undo all the mods. Things like air boxs on N/A motors generally don't show their performance on the dyno. But Show up on the road where the air is rammed into the inlet tubes. This alone is much better on a W-209 than the W-208. Well anyway. I belive that the headers & exhaust are 17 hp at the Rear wheels alone. Cheers. PTEngineering
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Good to hear, J-Mo. I have owned at CLK430 for 5 years and CLK55 for 1 and they are great cars.
And do not listen to the haters who say that a Nissan/Infiniti G35 can outperform the CLK, with the exception of maybe a 320. Those kind of people have been reading too many car magazines and haven't been driving enough.
I never lost a race to a stock G35 in my CLK430, and won't lose to them in my 55 fo' sure!
And do not listen to the haters who say that a Nissan/Infiniti G35 can outperform the CLK, with the exception of maybe a 320. Those kind of people have been reading too many car magazines and haven't been driving enough.
I never lost a race to a stock G35 in my CLK430, and won't lose to them in my 55 fo' sure!
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A buddy of mine who runs a ZED rents out a track for the rest of his 350 buddies a couple times a year. Let me tell there's nothing more hilarious watching a these guys run 14 and 15 second quarters (we're talking the majority, even some with slicks) especially when they're wearing race helmets.
The other issue I have with some members in OT and other places is that those clowns do not give the CLK55 (W208 or W209) enough credit.
They keep sayin' it's a 2-door W202/W203 C-Class, like it's a bad thing. I won't bag on an E46 M3 just because it's the "lowest" on the BMW family tree.
The funny thing is, none of them have ever owned one, so who are they to comment?
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It's alright SoCal, you just have to remember that these guys at the end of the day still have to pull the sock out out their pants. F'm, I've seen a dude in a Jalopied out 89 Tbird(4100lb car) school them running a 10 sec 1/4's while they were laughing at him at the starting line. They weren't laughing when he finished.
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Word. They think they got themselves a "real sports car" and are going to tear it up! LOL.
The other issue I have with some members in OT and other places is that those clowns do not give the CLK55 (W208 or W209) enough credit.
They keep sayin' it's a 2-door W202/W203 C-Class, like it's a bad thing. I won't bag on an E46 M3 just because it's the "lowest" on the BMW family tree.
The funny thing is, none of them have ever owned one, so who are they to comment?
The other issue I have with some members in OT and other places is that those clowns do not give the CLK55 (W208 or W209) enough credit.
They keep sayin' it's a 2-door W202/W203 C-Class, like it's a bad thing. I won't bag on an E46 M3 just because it's the "lowest" on the BMW family tree.
The funny thing is, none of them have ever owned one, so who are they to comment?
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Stiggs. I think part of it deals with the fact that CLK55 owners are in the minority on this forum compared to the others.Everytime I hear about "supercharger failure" on a E55/CLS55/CL55/SL55 I can't help but be grateful we have a N/A engine without the need for a supercharger. CLK55 FTW!
Stiggs. I think part of it deals with the fact that CLK55 owners are in the minority on this forum compared to the others.Everytime I hear about "supercharger failure" on a E55/CLS55/CL55/SL55 I can't help but be grateful we have a N/A engine without the need for a supercharger. CLK55 FTW!
btw, the W209 look way better than ppl give them credit for.
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Please look up any of my threads or posts. IMHP the hinge point is the Exhaust system. You can Chip It, Air Box it, Filter it. I went down this road. None of those offered what I was expecting. Then I headed for the Exhaust system , I found the engine Manifolds ( Log Type) to be very restrictive at the outlet flange. The Rest of the under cars exhaust system is pretty damn good. And large enough to flow that N/A motor. I retained the stock AMG muffler , but installed Kleemann headers & 200 cell Cats. I did not hack up the eom cats & exhaust pipes , I saved them as a complete stock system & saved those pieces in the garage attic. and built the system with 2.5" S.S. pipe , too a flowmaster Y pipe , outlet was 3" single to the rest of the cars OEM system. The car Jumped to life. Moral of the story , If it cann't exhale , any you do to the inlet side just will not work effectively. Then of Course their is Force induction. Expensive !!!. I think my final number was 341 RWHP / 360 FT lbs RWTQ , comes to about 425 Crank HP. Look at Kleemann or VRP headers
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Stiggs. I think part of it deals with the fact that CLK55 owners are in the minority on this forum compared to the others.Everytime I hear about "supercharger failure" on a E55/CLS55/CL55/SL55 I can't help but be grateful we have a N/A engine without the need for a supercharger. CLK55 FTW!
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