BoBcanada

track and drag strip?no flame flames plz!

Stiggs

This would just be too easy to flame. Just look at the title.
Come on....W211 CLK55?

BoBcanada

Well never driven one, so tell me would it be faster on the track as well as on the straight line?

Stiggs

I'm just being an A hole. Sorry can't help it. Thats what I am.

There is no W211 CLK55
The W211 is the E55
2003-plus W209 CLK55
2000-2002 W208 CLK55

BoBcanada

yeah sorry i mean w209 just a mistake i just thought about new e55 which i HAD test driven not that long ago....

So can anyone give me a review about handling of that car and acceleration?

AMIL

neck to neck on the dragstrip...im sure the m3 takes it on the track

Chappy

Ditto.

MB never made a MY 2000 (W208) CLK55

.....sorry, couldn't resist

Back to the topic, a BMW M3 (with SMG) is damn quick on the drag strip....the manual stick is just as fast, but is the owner willing to burn out his clutch to get a .1 or .2 second faster time? With the AMG, you just feather the gas pedal, the V8 does the rest! Times will boil down to traction and reaction times....they're that close.

On the highway, from a roll, the torque of the AMG V8 to very tough to beat.

The M3 has the edge on the track.

Stiggs

Damn! I wanted to put 2001 and it just didn't look right.
You got me....A hole.

AMIL

but burning the clutch isnt the question

Chappy

Amil is correct. Let me rephrase (this only applies to drag racing):

If the M3 driver does not get a PERFECT launch, the CLK wins.....

scorchie

I am pretty sure that there were 1999 W208 CLK55s. And almost positive there were 2000 W208 CLK55s, even MY2000.

-s-

Beltfed

With 5.5Ls I would hope to think its faster.

Chappy

Trying to join the A-Hole Club, I see

j/k

I was not counting the F1 Pace Car or the cars sold outside of the United States, but then again, I suppose I could have been more clear

Blk04AMG

CLK55 > M3

bottom line...i seriously think the MB can handle the M3 in any scenario...

Stiggs

Own3D

Henrik

The Merc engine is not as high revving as the m3 engine. Two different approaches. MB makes the hp with torque (bigger capacity engine) instead of high revs. A high revving engine does not suit MB. In such a car you rather want an engine that you don't need to push to it's maximum all the time to get the power. You will rather want relaxed power delivery.

cntlaw

M3 is faster


Check this !

cnt

Henrik

Wouldn't say that.. it's more a question of at what speed the CLK55 will begin to pull away.

AMIL

neck to neck

BenzC32

He's asking the w209 clk55, not the w208.

cntlaw

Thanks for pointed that out.
Yes..some BMW fans still think they were the only racers, those were the good old days.
Friend of mine an M3 owner almost thought that he could 'beat' the E55W211, and how? :p

cnt

Henrik

I can't recall any time at all when MB was slower than a comparable BMW.. In the 90's? no... 80's? no... 70?.. no.. and before that? No..

But it's a common thought amongst many BMW owners that their cars are faster than anything else. Just because they do not know anything about Merc.. sadly. They don't even bother reading about them because they think it's an old mans car and it can't be fast anyway.

behzad

On track, the M3 will be faster no question about it, especially if you have the smg which makes things a lot easier... on strip they should pull equal!!!

ZAF

Thats a very nice and interesting topic.
I think if M3 E46 Vs CLK55 W209 for the 1/4mile drag, the result would be equal give or take 0.2s . The question is if they raced for 1 mile which one would get there first?
The difference in torque between M3 and CLK55 just shows how the CLK is much more drivable and relaxing. Meaning for everyday use the CLK55 is much more faster than M3, 500+Nm speaks for itself.
Handling well in my opinion BMWs are the ultimate driver's machine. BUT it must be acompanied by the ULTIMATE DRIVER. Meaning, BMWs are one of the best brands in the world no-one can say other wise. Their cars are built with great deal of track sence. So on the track you may not find a better company than a BMW. Now, where do you spend more time on the track or off the track?
Merc will give you a great handling car for OFF the track use. The merc is designed MORE in favour of the average drivers skills. If you are an average driver and got in a tight situation on a BMW you have a good chance of loosing control. But thats not the case in Mercs.

coloboardin

Damn, jump to conclusions will you... I drive an M3 and work for MB and am very informed and am an enthusiast of both companys. You would be suprised how much BMW enthusiasts know about Merc and vice versa.
And not to start a huge controversy (not ******* on MB) but in the late 80s early 90s what MB is comparable to the e30 M3?