Buying a BS as a weekend car?
01-04-2008, 10:31 PM
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Buying a BS as a weekend car?
I just sold my 996tt and have the itch for another weekend sports car. Apparently these cars are readily avail now even tho I thought a very small number of cars were gonna make it stateside? How much off sticker should I expect for this particular car?
01-04-2008, 11:07 PM
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2008 CLK 63 Black Series, 2013 G63, 2014 RS5 Coupe, 2013 JKUR 10A
There is a limited number, its just that most of the production seems to be coming in now to the dealers and not a lot of buyers right now. Since most of the dealers only get one they try to hold to the sticker price but there are some deals to be had. MB of Houston has one on Ebay for $5k off sticker. Thats the cheapest i have seen.
01-05-2008, 12:00 AM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Really, did you consult your crystal ball for that prediction ...? And for your information, $140k is $1625 over what you can get them for as many dealers are selling them at sticker.
Art - I know of a brand new one, color is black; my buddy bought it and then had a change of heart. He has over 50 cars and more $$$ than sense. He just wants to unload it. Price is less than MSRP. PM me if you are interested.
There is also a white one at WI Simonson in Santa Monica CA where I bought mine, they are asking MSRP. I have info and contact info on both - PM me if you are interested. I have no interest in either car.
Art - I know of a brand new one, color is black; my buddy bought it and then had a change of heart. He has over 50 cars and more $$$ than sense. He just wants to unload it. Price is less than MSRP. PM me if you are interested.
There is also a white one at WI Simonson in Santa Monica CA where I bought mine, they are asking MSRP. I have info and contact info on both - PM me if you are interested. I have no interest in either car.
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01-05-2008, 02:04 AM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Maybe so, but you're still making comparisions where they don't exist. Like comparing the BS to a full race M3 GTR not street legal twice the price, etc.
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OP- I have a few buddies who have sold their TT's for the BS and use them as daily driver and they are very happy. Just to give you some other's opinions who have been where u are now. Hope that helps.
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01-05-2008, 02:38 AM
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06' Clk 500 Cabriolet, 01' CL 55, 00' Clk 430
Here's a few cheap black Serie.........definately can offer another $5k-$10K lower.
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01-05-2008, 02:48 AM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
That's not the same car that did the 7:12 on the Nordschleife that you referenced in this thread smartguy -
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-black-series-forum-registry/224348-road-track-gives-new-08-m3-same-specs-our-black-series.html
the car you pictured is a CSL modified to GTR specs -totally different. The 7:12 was done by Hans Stuck in this car and is FAR from street legal in this country, or any other.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1222377473
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-black-series-forum-registry/224348-road-track-gives-new-08-m3-same-specs-our-black-series.html
the car you pictured is a CSL modified to GTR specs -totally different. The 7:12 was done by Hans Stuck in this car and is FAR from street legal in this country, or any other.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1222377473
01-05-2008, 12:02 PM
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clkslk
It seems you don't like the CLK 63 BS as you're constantly bad mouthing the price, the performance, the euro aero package etc, etc etc.
Why are you posting on this forum? You've obviously never driven the car, can't afford it or have NEVER driven a sports vehicle of over 400 hp on a track.
Your dogmatic comparisons with BMW's is hysterical, and remind me of an adolescent who's only car knowledge is what he reads in motor trend and the internet. Get over your bias, or go hang out with the BMW juveniles.
Jimmy
It seems you don't like the CLK 63 BS as you're constantly bad mouthing the price, the performance, the euro aero package etc, etc etc.
Why are you posting on this forum? You've obviously never driven the car, can't afford it or have NEVER driven a sports vehicle of over 400 hp on a track.
Your dogmatic comparisons with BMW's is hysterical, and remind me of an adolescent who's only car knowledge is what he reads in motor trend and the internet. Get over your bias, or go hang out with the BMW juveniles.
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01-05-2008, 04:06 PM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
LOL !!! So now you're referring to the larger front apron and rear wing that you previously thought were aftermarket pieces....AND now you're saying they actually made the car faster when you agreed with me in a previous thread those pieces probably slowed the car down ???
The only cars that drive around with wing like that is RICE RACER !! Why would you want to do that on a classy car like the BS. I'm sure Mercedes would agreed with me and that why the car does not came with it.
I agreed with you. Can you images if that same wing install on the M3 and what it would do to the times? The result would definately be difference. More like M3 ahead by .5 second !!
I agreed with you. Can you images if that same wing install on the M3 and what it would do to the times? The result would definately be difference. More like M3 ahead by .5 second !!
Sure, there are plenty of cars for less that are as fast if not faster - but the Skyline and Lexus LF are NOT HALF THE PRICE, so again please remove foot from mouth. What you don't understand however (and never will till you drive one) is just how good the BS is as a street car and on the track. There are very few cars that can do that without sacrificing something at one end of the spectrum. All one needs to do is look at the BS lap times around the Nordschleife, and then look at the other cars that posted similar times...that puts the BS into some very very fast, very expensive company that cannot do what the BS does on the street. I see that as justification for it's cost. Clearly, you don't see that at all. Not surprising...
It's becoming abundantly clear that, as Jim stated, you get most of your knowledge about cars from these boards and magazines and have absolutely no real world knowledge or firsthand experience with anything you discuss here. Not to mention your grammar is horrible. So please, pretty please....do us all a favor and get lost.
01-05-2008, 04:51 PM
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06' Clk 500 Cabriolet, 01' CL 55, 00' Clk 430
1) now you're saying they actually made the car faster when you agreed with me in a previous thread those pieces probably slowed the car down ???
2) Sure, there are plenty of cars for less that are as fast if not faster - but the Skyline and Lexus LF are NOT HALF THE PRICE, so again please remove foot from mouth.
3)What you don't understand however (and never will till you drive one) is just how good the BS is as a street car and on the track. There are very few cars that can do that without sacrificing something at one end of the spectrum.
4) All one needs to do is look at the BS lap times around the Nordschleife, and then look at the other cars that posted similar times...that puts the BS into some very very fast, very expensive company that cannot do what the BS does on the street.
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1) Huh...quote me?
2) Then what's the retail price on the 2 cars?
3) This is like when every parent think their daughter is the most beautifull !! It SO GOOD that it not worthy for any magazines to compare it to other car in the same price ranges but instead to a car at half the price. Now that's a GOOD CAR !!!
4) Ok, where's the link to the BS lap times around the Nordschleife and I'll be the judge of it.
01-05-2008, 05:19 PM
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Like I said - You simply spew out specs and comparisions without even doing your homework. You really are a moron, so here ya go, see for yourself:
Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
http://www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/nu...g-roadmap.html
6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK)
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....0905/index.php
http://www.radicalextremesportscars....ring/index.php
7:11* -- 172.07 km/h -- McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car), Mika Hakkinen, http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps...7Nt_zonda.html (* not an official source)
7:12* -- 171.67 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 171.18 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.31 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.de/filead...eife_runde.avi
http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_wo...ngmeister.html
7:18.01 170.24 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004 http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 168.93 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:22.9 - 169.07 km/h -- Loaded BMW M3 CSL (tuned to GTR specs) ~600 PS, Richard Göransson (nov,5 07) http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=17133
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVeZ2F_vlZM#GU5U2spHI_4
7:24* -- 169.65 km/h -- Lexus LF-A, 552 PS/??? kg *unofficial, according to http://motormagazine.co.jp/2007/12/20081_4.html
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...lexus_lfa.html
7:27.82 167.20 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228650/
http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...SODE5movie.php
7:28* -- 166.65 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...e-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 - 164.07 km/h Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.88 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=142508
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto, oct,17-18 05) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=75219
7:35* -- 159.86 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...08_nissan_gt_r
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7838_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Nissan R34 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=140084
http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktue...7063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ife_45763.html
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.52 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ck-series.html
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=137437
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=111663
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dNW...e=user&search=
7:47* -- 158.80 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=120285
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=91836
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=129099
www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WfAYRcaHI
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h –- BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7.49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.89 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Hrst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=145737
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine,
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h –- Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05) http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_...0696_14469.hbs
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=126501
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvBu...e=user&search=
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Porsche 993 GT3, 360 PS/1380 kg (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* -- 156.13 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* - 155.80 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.50 155.60 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.57 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.57 km/h Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.48 km/h -- AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=123445
7:57 --- 155.47 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...16841&t=16841\
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
7:59.41 154.69 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:01.72 153.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:01.84 153.98 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, 520 PS/1760 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...rtikel_seite=1
8:02 --- 153.86 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:02.32 153.72 km/h - Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione, 450 PS/~1400 kg www.fastestlaps.com/car4707a59163bcf.html
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Audi R8, 420 PS/1595 kg (sport auto 07/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=133046
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCTb6...e=user&search=
8:03.86 153.52 km/h -- Honda NSX http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- BMW M3, 420 PS/1608 kg (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=145617
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ruf CTR, http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/V...rburgring1.wmv
8:06 --- 152.59 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.59 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:06.2 - 152.59 km/h -- Caterham Superlight R http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:07 --- 152.28 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:07.76 152.04 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06)
8:08.62 151.77 km/h -- HGP Golf R32 Turbo Stufe 3, 495 PS/1660 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=14071
8:08.73 151.88 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10.75 151.27 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 --- 151,27 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,27 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:11.1 - 151,274 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Sypder E-gear (AutoBild sportscars 11/07)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:12.62 - 150.61 km/h -- Honda CBR 1000 RR Fireblade, 172 PS/205 kg, Helmmut Dähne, previous record holder http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html
8:12.8 - 150.43 km/h – Porsche 997 Turbo convertible (AutoBild sportscars11/08)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series, 400 PS/1506 kg (sport auto 08/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=134706
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC, 285 PS/1418 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h –- BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg,
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05)
8:15* -- 149.82 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR II, 520 PS http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.09 149.41 km/h -- Zender A3 Sportback Z440 R, 440 PS/1690 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=14071
8:16.15 149.48 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:16.52 149.22 km/h -- BMW M6 convertible, 507 PS/2015 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...rtikel_seite=1
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg, http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/225863/
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.62 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Audi S5, 354 PS/1718 kg (sport auto 01/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=147974
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360 PS/1566 kg (sport auto 04/05)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.85 km/h –- 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Jaguar XKR, 416 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Porsche 911 ST, Michael Eschmann, fastest car at Oldtmer Grand Prix
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h –- BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.1 - 145.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:28.93 145.69 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:30 --- 145.41 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:31.--- 145.13 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg,
8:31.42 145.01 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS
8:33.80 144.34 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:34 --- 144.28 km/h -- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:34 --- 144.28 km/h -- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 04/01)
8:34 --- 144.28 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS (sport auto 04/04)
8:34.6 - 144.00 km/h -- BMW M6 convertible (AutoBild sportscars 11/07)
8:35 --- 144.00 km/h -- BMW 130i, 258 PS/1350 kg (Road & Track)
8:35 --- 144.00 km/h -- BMW M3 SMG E36, 321 PS/1515 kg (sport auto 03/97)
8:35 --- 144.00 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé, 426 PS/1635 kg (sport auto 02/02)
8:35 --- 144.00 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS
8:35.93 143.74 km/h – Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., oct,05) record holder compact class
8:36 --- 143.59 km/h -- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
8:36 --- 143.59 km/h -- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (sport auto 07/99)
8:36 --- 143.59 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Performance Kit, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 09/00)
8:36 --- 143.59 km/h -- Porsche Boxster ´03, 228 PS/1370 kg (sport auto 02/03)
8:36.1 - 143.59 km/h -- Mercedes SL55 AMG roadster (AutoBild sportscars 11/07)
8:36.42 143.60 km/h -- BMW M3 EVO, 321hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- Maserati 3200GT, 370 PS/1614 kg (sport auto 09/02)
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG, (sport auto 09/01)
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo, 218 PS/1290 kg (sport auto 03/00)
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.0 (sport auto 07/91)
8:37 --- 143.44 km/h -- VW Golf R32 (sport auto 02/03)
8:37.10 143.42 km/h -- Nissan GTR V, 350 PS (Top Gear maagzine)
8:38 --- 143.17 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8, 400 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 12/98)
8:38 --- 143.17 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.2, 280 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 08/97)
8:38 --- 143.17 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL500, 306 PS/1852 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:38 --- 143.17 km/h -- Renault Megane Sport Trophy “sport auto” edition, 225PS/1371 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:38 --- 143.17 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296 PS
8:38.4 - 143.17 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:39 --- 142.89 km/h -- Honda S2000, 240 PS/1275 kg (sport auto 01/00)
8:39 --- 142.89 km/h -- Morgan Aero 8, 286 PS/1193 kg (sport auto 04/03)
8:40 --- 142.62 km/h – Audi TT 2.0 TFSI, 200 PS/1322 kg (sport auto 02/07)
8:40* -- 142.62 km/h – Cadillac CTS, 304 PS/??? kg (*company test driver/Sports Car International)
8:40 --- 142.62 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
8:40 --- 142.62 km/h -- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40.30 142.62 km/h – Bentley Continental GT, 560 PS/2385 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
8:41 --- 142.34 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7, 420 PS/1847 kg (sport auto 01/99)
8:41 --- 142.34 km/h -- Audi S3, 210 PS/1489 kg (sport auto 06/99)
8:42 --- 142.07 km/h -- Audi S4, 265 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 08/98)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8 quattro w. ESP, 225 PS/1461 kg, (sport auto 07/01)
8:42 --- 142.07 km/h -- BMW Alpina B3 3.3, 280 PS/1495 kg (sport auto 07/99)
8:42 --- 142.07 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 179 PS/796 kg, (sport auto 11/00)
8:43 --- 141.80 km/h -- Honda Integra Type R (sport auto 12/00)
8:44.83 141.30 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Coupe, 339 PS, automatic (Top Gear magazine)
8:46 --- 140.99 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
8:47 --- 140.72 km/h -- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS/1246 kg (sport auto 11/01)
8:48.25 140.39 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 285 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:49 --- 140.19 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Coupe, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 07/98)
8:49 --- 140.19 km/h -- Renault Clio Sport V6, 226 PS/1381 kg (sport auto 07/01)
8:49 --- 140.19 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS/1461 kg (sport auto 11/98)
8:49 --- 140.19 km/h – VW Golf V R32, 250 PS/1591 kg (sport auto 09/06),
8:50 --- 139.93 km/h -- BMW Alpina B10 3.2, 260 PS/1600 kg (sport auto 04/98)
8:50* -- 139.93 km/h -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (sport auto ??/00)
8:51 --- 139.66 km/h -- Alfa Romeo 156 GTA, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 05/02)
8:51* -- 139.66 km/h -- Ford Focus ST, 225 PS/1330 kg (sport auto 09/05) (*mfr.)
8:51 --- 139.66 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG, 306 PS/1571 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:52 --- 139.40 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 430, 279 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 09/01)
8:52 --- 139.53 km/h -- VW Golf GTI DSG, 200 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 11/05)
8:54 --- 138.90 km/h -- Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 kg (sport auto 01/97)
8:54 --- 138.90 km/h -- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary, 180 hp, 1320 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:55 --- 134.58 km/h -- Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp (sport auto ??/04)
8:58 --- 133.83 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (sport auto 07/97)
9:05* -- 136.07 km/h -- Ford Focus RS, 215 PS/1355 kg (sport auto 09/05)(*mfr.)
9:07 --- 135.58 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 230, 195 PS/1356 kg (sport auto 05/01)
9:07 --- 135.58 km/h -- AMG Mercedes SLK 230 compressor (sport auto 05/99)
9:09 --- 135.80 km/h --VW Golf V6 4Motion, 204 PS/1455 kg (sport auto 01/02)
9:46.20 126.50 km/h -- VW Polo GTI, 150 PS/1245 kg; http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ne_319094.html
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01-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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Wrong !! I love the BS style and wish I can afford it. What I don't like is that some of you guys think the BS is the **** because it a little faster (.5 second) then the stock M3 on the track and the BS did it with the aid of deeper front chip and race trunk spoiler. My question is.......what do you expect from a car that is cost $65K more, with striped interior, much more power...etc.? BS is not the **** because there's still alot of cars out at half price that the BS can't compete with like the Z06, ZR1, Skyline, Lexus...etc.
Mr. CLK/SLK, maybe this will clear it up. The BS does cost alot, and it isn't worth it if you have to steal from the kid's college fund to buy your transportation. But, if you have driven many high performance cars and are searching for that magical combination of race car-like setup, daily usability, and durability for extreme use, there isn't anything else THAT DOES THE SAME for less money.
Time has shown with many new cars that early buyers pay a premium. I paid sticker, with a strong suspicion I could wait 6 months and possibly save $5,000. But, I didn't want to take the risk of having to go into the secondary market. I'm going to also guess that in the short run, BS owners risk depreciation losses which could be substantial. It doesn't bother me, as I don't expect to sell anytime soon.
I'm going to guess that every BS owner could decide to live in a cheaper house, live in a smaller house, go on less expensive vacations, send our kids to cheaper colleges, eat at cheaper restaurants, be less generous with gifts to loved ones, and conserve cash in many more ways. The person who is a BS buyer isn't one of those people. So, Mr. CLK/SLK, please accept that the owners here are very satisfied with the cars, can't wait to drive them, and hope one day you will have that chance so you can say, "Now, I get it" in whateve language is most familiar to you.
If you drink alcohol, you might recognize that Chateau Mouton Rothschild costs much more than Chateau St. Michelle, though the measurable alcohol content is very similar, the color is similar, the bottles are similar, and the consequences of over-consumtion are similar. The experience and the prices are dissimilar. But, you may not drink alcohol, so you won't get that either. AS
01-05-2008, 07:51 PM
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a car that some frohawk coiffured internet racer won't be driving. Jimmy
01-05-2008, 09:04 PM
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06' Clk 500 Cabriolet, 01' CL 55, 00' Clk 430
That's not the same car that did the 7:12 on the Nordschleife that you referenced in this thread smartguy -
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224348
the car you pictured is a CSL modified to GTR specs -totally different. The 7:12 was done by Hans Stuck in this car and is FAR from street legal in this country, or any other.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1222377473
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224348
the car you pictured is a CSL modified to GTR specs -totally different. The 7:12 was done by Hans Stuck in this car and is FAR from street legal in this country, or any other.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1222377473
The question is, you said that the GTR specs is not street leagl? So I proof you WRONG !!
01-05-2008, 09:20 PM
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06' Clk 500 Cabriolet, 01' CL 55, 00' Clk 430
2) Mercedes quality is suck on their production cars. What exactly are you base on to think it reliability?
3) Exclusivity? Not sure why you so proud of it on a car that barely just came out and now is flooded with owners want to get rid of it on EBAY for alot less then what they bought it.
4) How sure are you? Wait until you tow in your car for warranty work and told them that the car broke down during track use then come back and tell us. I remember a couple years ago Mercedes refused warranty work on their multi-million dollars race after it broke down in the middle of the road during a customer tested drive from a dealer in California.
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01-05-2008, 09:30 PM
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06' Clk 500 Cabriolet, 01' CL 55, 00' Clk 430
I guess if you count nickles and dimes !! Btw, here's the best quote of the century...........straight from the BS owner himself !!!!!!
i just got finished reading the new road and track, their test panel for an 08 manual m3 had NEARLY identical specs, on 0-60 times, g's braking and 1/4 mile times. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! the same performance for half the price, i bought this car NEVER intending to go to a track,(i think i would kill myself) and really just wanted a very special weekend driver car. It is a wonderful car dont get me wrong, but these new discoveries are making me crazy
i just got finished reading the new road and track, their test panel for an 08 manual m3 had NEARLY identical specs, on 0-60 times, g's braking and 1/4 mile times. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! the same performance for half the price, i bought this car NEVER intending to go to a track,(i think i would kill myself) and really just wanted a very special weekend driver car. It is a wonderful car dont get me wrong, but these new discoveries are making me crazy
i just got finished reading the new road and track, their test panel for an 08 manual m3 had NEARLY identical specs, on 0-60 times, g's braking and 1/4 mile times. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! the same performance for half the price, i bought this car NEVER intending to go to a track,(i think i would kill myself) and really just wanted a very special weekend driver car. It is a wonderful car dont get me wrong, but these new discoveries are making me crazy
01-05-2008, 09:42 PM
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CLK63 Black, E350 Wagon, Supercharged Denali, Lotus Elise, Tesla Model 3 Dual-Motor.
I think Clk&Slk has spun and turned this into a thread about how to justify... "not buying" a CLK63 Black Series..
01-05-2008, 10:57 PM
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How do you think I can afford a BS, buy NOT counting nickles and dimes ?? Maybe you should start, then you could be able to afford an AMG.
AS and Jim - LOL !!! You guys crack me up...."some frohawk coiffured internet racer ..."
AS and Jim - LOL !!! You guys crack me up...."some frohawk coiffured internet racer ..."
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No, I won't need to start counting nickles and dimes to buy a BS. In two years, I'll be able to afford it when you already pay half of the retail price for me.
i just got finished reading the new road and track, their test panel for an 08 manual m3 had NEARLY identical specs, on 0-60 times, g's braking and 1/4 mile times. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! the same performance for half the price, i bought this car NEVER intending to go to a track,(i think i would kill myself) and really just wanted a very special weekend driver car. It is a wonderful car dont get me wrong, but these new discoveries are making me crazy
01-06-2008, 01:03 AM
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1) Based on what car>
2) Mercedes quality is suck on their production cars. What exactly are you base on to think it reliability?
3) Exclusivity? Not sure why you so proud of it on a car that barely just came out and now is flooded with owners want to get rid of it on EBAY for alot less then what they bought it.
4) How sure are you? Wait until you tow in your car for warranty work and told them that the car broke down during track use then come back and tell us. I remember a couple years ago Mercedes refused warranty work on their multi-million dollars race after it broke down in the middle of the road during a customer tested drive from a dealer in California.
2) Mercedes quality is suck on their production cars. What exactly are you base on to think it reliability?
3) Exclusivity? Not sure why you so proud of it on a car that barely just came out and now is flooded with owners want to get rid of it on EBAY for alot less then what they bought it.
4) How sure are you? Wait until you tow in your car for warranty work and told them that the car broke down during track use then come back and tell us. I remember a couple years ago Mercedes refused warranty work on their multi-million dollars race after it broke down in the middle of the road during a customer tested drive from a dealer in California.
I'm engaging your questions for humor sake in an attempt to see if it's possible to debate someone who still believes that if they read it on the internet it's fact.
The fact is I've owned 9 amg's with no problems contrary to your JD Powers surveys. Exclusive! 350 CLk 63 Blacks vs. 12,000 m3's vs. 1200 Gt3 porsche. Did you fail math?
I've already raced the CLK 63 Black and I've seen AMG warrantee an oil cooler punctured on the track.
Do you have anymore unsubstantiated conjecture. Are you a product of home schooling? Tell you what, I will give you a ride (free) at the Ferrari/ Pantera event at WSIR on 3/-3/2-08. Just remember to wear your diaper, so not to soil the seat when your adrenalin turns brown. After a ride through turn eight you will never utter BS about a BMW again, I guarantee it.
Jimmy (your daddy)
