Finally got my BS to the track
#76
#77
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I'm just starting to look into data logging sytems to use on the CLK. If I come across something about the RPM, I'll let you know.
What is your rotor temps after getting off the track?
Is the hand brake used while the car is parked in the paddock area (in between sessions)?
Although it doesn't matter being its not brake fluid controlled but a good practice for it not to be used.
How long is each track session? 20 minutes or more?
What is your rotor temps after getting off the track?
Is the hand brake used while the car is parked in the paddock area (in between sessions)?
Although it doesn't matter being its not brake fluid controlled but a good practice for it not to be used.
How long is each track session? 20 minutes or more?
Last edited by MOFLO; 01-21-2015 at 04:54 PM.
#78
The vVBOX can capture a lot of data I just need to connect it
Rotor temp? Hmmmmm I don't know how to measure this but it's hot enough for me to light a cigarette (I actually do)
Yep never use handbrake during track days they would lock your brakes!
I usually run 25 minute sessions 8-9 laps if I am pushing the car. My first session is usually longer but that's when I am going slow to heat up the tyres and basically making sure that everything is in place
Rotor temp? Hmmmmm I don't know how to measure this but it's hot enough for me to light a cigarette (I actually do)
Yep never use handbrake during track days they would lock your brakes!
I usually run 25 minute sessions 8-9 laps if I am pushing the car. My first session is usually longer but that's when I am going slow to heat up the tyres and basically making sure that everything is in place
#79
"Those part numbers are only suitable up to the 06 model year, newer models would require a different line set which we have not developed."
Weird that it clearly says 2008 on their website! Any ideas on this MOFLO?
#80
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The vVBOX can capture a lot of data I just need to connect it
Rotor temp? Hmmmmm I don't know how to measure this but it's hot enough for me to light a cigarette (I actually do)
Yep never use handbrake during track days they would lock your brakes!
I usually run 25 minute sessions 8-9 laps if I am pushing the car. My first session is usually longer but that's when I am going slow to heat up the tyres and basically making sure that everything is in place
Rotor temp? Hmmmmm I don't know how to measure this but it's hot enough for me to light a cigarette (I actually do)
Yep never use handbrake during track days they would lock your brakes!
I usually run 25 minute sessions 8-9 laps if I am pushing the car. My first session is usually longer but that's when I am going slow to heat up the tyres and basically making sure that everything is in place
Something like this: http://en-us.fluke.com/products/thermometers/
or you're simply over heating/using the brakes?!?!?!?
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#81
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Managed to get through to stop tech (after buying the lines through tire rack) and here is there reply on the SS lines :
"Those part numbers are only suitable up to the 06 model year, newer models would require a different line set which we have not developed."
Weird that it clearly says 2008 on their website! Any ideas on this MOFLO?
"Those part numbers are only suitable up to the 06 model year, newer models would require a different line set which we have not developed."
Weird that it clearly says 2008 on their website! Any ideas on this MOFLO?
#82
If you have a infrared temperature meter you an measure the rotor temp. This may help diagnose possible brake problems.
Something like this: http://en-us.fluke.com/products/thermometers/
or you're simply over heating/using the brakes?!?!?!?![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Something like this: http://en-us.fluke.com/products/thermometers/
or you're simply over heating/using the brakes?!?!?!?
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#83
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Here is the link to the manual for the Micro Input Module for the vbox.
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/_download...N01_Manual.pdf
It doesn't appear to be 'plug-n-play'. Would be nice if it had an ODBII connector to easily plug in and get all the data input (RPM,Speed,etc) right off the ECU.
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/_download...N01_Manual.pdf
It doesn't appear to be 'plug-n-play'. Would be nice if it had an ODBII connector to easily plug in and get all the data input (RPM,Speed,etc) right off the ECU.
#84
Senior Member
#86
Here is the link to the manual for the Micro Input Module for the vbox.
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/_download...N01_Manual.pdf
It doesn't appear to be 'plug-n-play'. Would be nice if it had an ODBII connector to easily plug in and get all the data input (RPM,Speed,etc) right off the ECU.
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/_download...N01_Manual.pdf
It doesn't appear to be 'plug-n-play'. Would be nice if it had an ODBII connector to easily plug in and get all the data input (RPM,Speed,etc) right off the ECU.
#87
Senior Member
Managed to get through to stop tech (after buying the lines through tire rack) and here is there reply on the SS lines :
"Those part numbers are only suitable up to the 06 model year, newer models would require a different line set which we have not developed."
Weird that it clearly says 2008 on their website! Any ideas on this MOFLO?
"Those part numbers are only suitable up to the 06 model year, newer models would require a different line set which we have not developed."
Weird that it clearly says 2008 on their website! Any ideas on this MOFLO?
The StopTech SS part numbers noted in the previous posts work great!
#88
Quick update on the StopTech SS lines that I bought and installed over the weekend. I did the front brakes including new Girodiscs, EBC RedStuff, and StopTech SS lines and bled the brake system with Motul RBF 660. Some pictures attached.
The StopTech SS part numbers noted in the previous posts work great!
The StopTech SS part numbers noted in the previous posts work great!
Did that soft first travel of the pedal disappear?
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#89
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#90
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Quick update on the StopTech SS lines that I bought and installed over the weekend. I did the front brakes including new Girodiscs, EBC RedStuff, and StopTech SS lines and bled the brake system with Motul RBF 660. Some pictures attached.
The StopTech SS part numbers noted in the previous posts work great!
The StopTech SS part numbers noted in the previous posts work great!
Mike
#91
Great day, new format for me max three hot laps followed by a cool down lap managed to survive any brake fade!!!
ENJOY THE VIDEO GUYS! (Please no comments on the music as I just picked a track that's 7 minutes long!)
ENJOY THE VIDEO GUYS! (Please no comments on the music as I just picked a track that's 7 minutes long!)
#93
i am waiting for new Yellow stuff as i finished the ones i have (two track days!!) and when the yellow stuff arrives i will do all jobs in one go (SS lines + Pads)
#94
Senior Member
MOFLO i just received my SS lines (the shipment was lost! but managed to track it down). whats the update on your brakes? major difference?
i am waiting for new Yellow stuff as i finished the ones i have (two track days!!) and when the yellow stuff arrives i will do all jobs in one go (SS lines + Pads)
i am waiting for new Yellow stuff as i finished the ones i have (two track days!!) and when the yellow stuff arrives i will do all jobs in one go (SS lines + Pads)
I'm surprised you finished the yellow pad after two track days! You should give EBC's blue or orange pads a try.
Has your brake fluid changed colors or boiled out from the cap? If so, try Motul RBF 660. I used the RBF 600 in my W210 (5000lbs) car with no issues. I'm sure the RBF 660 version will handle the CLK63BS even in your extremely hot weather. Also take full advantage of the cool down lap with minimal brake usage. It really helps.
Cheers!
#96
#97
No track day yet but spirited street/canyon/mountain driving and pedal feel is definitely where it should be now, firm all the way through. I feel much more confident in the brakes now with the SS lines, girodisc, and RBF 660.
I'm surprised you finished the yellow pad after two track days! You should give EBC's blue or orange pads a try.
Has your brake fluid changed colors or boiled out from the cap? If so, try Motul RBF 660. I used the RBF 600 in my W210 (5000lbs) car with no issues. I'm sure the RBF 660 version will handle the CLK63BS even in your extremely hot weather. Also take full advantage of the cool down lap with minimal brake usage. It really helps.
Cheers!
I'm surprised you finished the yellow pad after two track days! You should give EBC's blue or orange pads a try.
Has your brake fluid changed colors or boiled out from the cap? If so, try Motul RBF 660. I used the RBF 600 in my W210 (5000lbs) car with no issues. I'm sure the RBF 660 version will handle the CLK63BS even in your extremely hot weather. Also take full advantage of the cool down lap with minimal brake usage. It really helps.
Cheers!
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#100
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I think it's the 660 fluid that's the highest temp oil. I do now two hot laps and one cool down lap (minor braking) and it does make a difference. Still am not happy with the brakes. I don't loose them any more but they do soften a lot under heavy driving. Has anyone use the renntech brake air ducts? Any advise on bigger rotters?
There are a few factors that come affect the brake temps that we discuss in previous posts, driving style being one of them. I don't recall if you are using the factory or upgraded rotors?
All steel rotors are going to retain a percentage of the heat generated on heavy braking. Some of the newer advance rotors made with various metals may dissipate heat better. The rotor size (like brembo GTR) may make a noticeable difference compared to material of the rotor or brake pads for heat dissipation. Try different brake pad materials like Blue or Orange stuff from EBC.
You may have to go with a different material all together, like carbon ceramic or carbon carbon rotors and pads. With the GTR or Carbon brakes, you will need at least 20" wheels to fit over the brakes.
I posted a similar question in the private lounge:
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/privatel...otor-Air-Ducts
Good luck!
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