Updating Home Security, Is It Necessary 4 My Cars
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Updating Home Security, Is It Necessary 4 My Cars
I'm getting increasingly paranoid when workers whom I've invited to my home to work on it see my cars sitting in my garage. They all want to look at them, ask a lot of questions, and then ask me how much they cost. I tell them I bought them used, they are several years old, and I don't discuss their original or current values.
It's a CRAZY world out there and I'm concerned that I'm being targeted for possible future break-in and theft. I have increased my home and garage security in several obvious and non-obvious ways but was wondering if I should do more or, am I just over reacting? We haven't experienced any problems in my neighborhood for the ten years I've been here but there is always a first time. Should I contact my security company and ask them to install additional garage security (e.g., alarm the garage door, motion sensors, break glass, closed circuit, etc.)? What would you do and have you increased your security? If you did, what did you do?
It's a CRAZY world out there and I'm concerned that I'm being targeted for possible future break-in and theft. I have increased my home and garage security in several obvious and non-obvious ways but was wondering if I should do more or, am I just over reacting? We haven't experienced any problems in my neighborhood for the ten years I've been here but there is always a first time. Should I contact my security company and ask them to install additional garage security (e.g., alarm the garage door, motion sensors, break glass, closed circuit, etc.)? What would you do and have you increased your security? If you did, what did you do?
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one car that is 2 yrs old, one car that is 3 yrs old and one car that is 4 yrs old.
i would not be worried. my suggestion is to do the work yourself or ask your friends who they use to do the work.
in all seriousness, chill out!
i would not be worried. my suggestion is to do the work yourself or ask your friends who they use to do the work.
in all seriousness, chill out!
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I think just the ADT signs would scare most people off. Just let them know they have two different vehicle tracking systems in every vehicle because your brother works at a private security firm. I doubt they would even question it 
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Not for your cars for your family. Showing the cars may make you feel good and showcase a sense of accomplishment, but there are bad guys out there that will see the cars as an showcase to other valuables inside the house. The fact you are questioning yourself, is a pretty good clue you better take some steps to protect the castle.
FWIW, the pros will have "cased" the place and disabled the alarm. They will be in and out in less than 6 minutes. The pro's hit my house four years ago and I had alarms, lived in a gated commuity where everybody knows everyone. My wife and I were in Scottland when they hit! How did they know? They drove Range Rovers so know one would suspect them driving slowly though the neighborhood. Turned out they were former military trained in surveillance. When the cops busted them 6 mos latter they couldn't believe they'd been made. I can't tell you how we identified them least it compromises our security.
What the cops told me is they saw the cars and spent three months casing the place.
We were lucky that they were unable to grab the real valuables but the damage they did
does make one feel violated. The recent Flordia couple who were murdered when a gang of thugs buglurized their home should be sobering that all the security alarms in the world won't keep you alive nor will the cops who's best response time is 7 minutes. The worst scenario is if they hit the house when the family is at home. Then the best thing is a German Shephard and a Glock/ with a Remmington 12 gauge back up.
FWIW, the pros will have "cased" the place and disabled the alarm. They will be in and out in less than 6 minutes. The pro's hit my house four years ago and I had alarms, lived in a gated commuity where everybody knows everyone. My wife and I were in Scottland when they hit! How did they know? They drove Range Rovers so know one would suspect them driving slowly though the neighborhood. Turned out they were former military trained in surveillance. When the cops busted them 6 mos latter they couldn't believe they'd been made. I can't tell you how we identified them least it compromises our security.
What the cops told me is they saw the cars and spent three months casing the place.
We were lucky that they were unable to grab the real valuables but the damage they did
does make one feel violated. The recent Flordia couple who were murdered when a gang of thugs buglurized their home should be sobering that all the security alarms in the world won't keep you alive nor will the cops who's best response time is 7 minutes. The worst scenario is if they hit the house when the family is at home. Then the best thing is a German Shephard and a Glock/ with a Remmington 12 gauge back up.
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Not for your cars for your family. Showing the cars may make you feel good and showcase a sense of accomplishment, but there are bad guys out there that will see the cars as an showcase to other valuables inside the house. The fact you are questioning yourself, is a pretty good clue you better take some steps to protect the castle.
FWIW, the pros will have "cased" the place and disabled the alarm. They will be in and out in less than 6 minutes. The pro's hit my house four years ago and I had alarms, lived in a gated commuity where everybody knows everyone. My wife and I were in Scottland when they hit! How did they know? They drove Range Rovers so know one would suspect them driving slowly though the neighborhood. Turned out they were former military trained in surveillance. When the cops busted them 6 mos latter they couldn't believe they'd been made. I can't tell you how we identified them least it compromises our security.
What the cops told me is they saw the cars and spent three months casing the place.
We were lucky that they were unable to grab the real valuables but the damage they did
does make one feel violated. The recent Flordia couple who were murdered when a gang of thugs buglurized their home should be sobering that all the security alarms in the world won't keep you alive nor will the cops who's best response time is 7 minutes. The worst scenario is if they hit the house when the family is at home. Then the best thing is a German Shephard and a Glock/ with a Remmington 12 gauge back up.
FWIW, the pros will have "cased" the place and disabled the alarm. They will be in and out in less than 6 minutes. The pro's hit my house four years ago and I had alarms, lived in a gated commuity where everybody knows everyone. My wife and I were in Scottland when they hit! How did they know? They drove Range Rovers so know one would suspect them driving slowly though the neighborhood. Turned out they were former military trained in surveillance. When the cops busted them 6 mos latter they couldn't believe they'd been made. I can't tell you how we identified them least it compromises our security.
What the cops told me is they saw the cars and spent three months casing the place.
We were lucky that they were unable to grab the real valuables but the damage they did
does make one feel violated. The recent Flordia couple who were murdered when a gang of thugs buglurized their home should be sobering that all the security alarms in the world won't keep you alive nor will the cops who's best response time is 7 minutes. The worst scenario is if they hit the house when the family is at home. Then the best thing is a German Shephard and a Glock/ with a Remmington 12 gauge back up.
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I agree with Jimmy, an alarm system only is not going to protect you and your family. All the material things I'm not too worried about, since they are only things and nothing more. A dog, preferable a big one, is your best bet. Plus, you have a great companion that will be loyal to you and will enrich your life in many ways. I bought my dog in Germany when he was 8 weeks old and brought him with me. I invested almost 4 years of my time not only training him at Schutzhund, but at personal protection as well. Only listens to german commands, which makes it harder for anyone who doesn't speak the language to manipulate his actions. He is almost 6 years old now, and I can tell you, he will defend me or my wife until the bitter end. If you don't have the time or the right people on hand to train the dog for Schutzhund, you can always get a fully trained German Shepherd. Besides that, you keep a Glock next to your bed and you'll sleep like when you were a baby 
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I dont see why your big concern. At least over here in Miami, if they break in to steal something from a car its usually to steal wheels or aftermarket parts ( they rarely try to take the car). As long as your cars are stock i doubt they'll try to steal any of them. As for the house, i think with a good alarm that covers all entrances and 7 or more cameras around the house you should be more than good. They stole a navigation system on my C230 about 3 months ago. I sent the surveillance video to a local news station and offered 1k to whoever knew the ****er. They found him 1 week later! All this thanks to the 9 cameras around the house.
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I think youll be fine as long as you have motion sensors that sound an alarm inside and maybe a fake camera or two on the outside of your garage. Even if anyone was to break in somehow they motion alarm sensor would most likely scare them away and alert your neighbors
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I too am getting a little more paranoid now days. I believe the quote is "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
I own a lot of guns but they can be just as easily used against you - also if you're just starting out with them - make sure you know how to use it - it's just a tad different than what they portray in the movies. Also, ballistics are important in a closed environment (especially if there are children in the house) miss with a 9mm and you will have to be VERY worried about where it went. Shotguns or .22's are usually best for the missus. Have the security company set your delay to 15 seconds - most people keep it between 30 and 60 (with 60 seconds - someone can enter your home and be in your bedroom before the alarm even trips). Finally, can never go wrong with a big dog - we have a Rhodesian Ridgeback (they're fearless and you don't have to train him to protect - they're hard wired for it) Here's a pic of his dad www.sidiboarani.com - if you're curious click on the history link - it'll let you know all about them.
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I own a lot of guns but they can be just as easily used against you - also if you're just starting out with them - make sure you know how to use it - it's just a tad different than what they portray in the movies. Also, ballistics are important in a closed environment (especially if there are children in the house) miss with a 9mm and you will have to be VERY worried about where it went. Shotguns or .22's are usually best for the missus. Have the security company set your delay to 15 seconds - most people keep it between 30 and 60 (with 60 seconds - someone can enter your home and be in your bedroom before the alarm even trips). Finally, can never go wrong with a big dog - we have a Rhodesian Ridgeback (they're fearless and you don't have to train him to protect - they're hard wired for it) Here's a pic of his dad www.sidiboarani.com - if you're curious click on the history link - it'll let you know all about them.
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If you are away from home, there's really nothing you can do to deter someone who is intent on breaking in. Make sure your valuables and personal info paperwork are in a safe and have a good alarm monitoring company who provides armed response.
Oh yeah, my last line of defense if I am not at home and the alarm is triggered is not some wimpy siren. I have TWO TRAIN HORNS with compressors and all mounted in my attic both have backup power supplies with triggers that detect any sort of tampering. One at each end of the house with the horns pointing through a speaker grille. I'm not kidding when I say that if you are ANYWHERE inside my house when these things go off you will be absolutely incapacitated and totally unable to do anything but GET THE FU@K OUTSIDE ASAP. If you think a train horn is loud outside....imagine what it sounds like INSIDE a house with nice hardwood floors and 15' ceilings
http://trainhorns.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYcnYLK_50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnPE6nGXVqE
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You and I must be related in some way, Jimmy. I have a field trained hunting dog that can smell and hear someone on my property....his ability to detect people walking up my driveway is uncanny. In addition, I have a loaded Glcok 21 with a mag extension (15 in the clip and one in the chamber) next to my bed...under the bed is a Benelli M1 Super 90 loaded with 000 buck and a couple slugs and when those 2 fail I'll goto either a AK sub or my trusty MP5A3
If you are away from home, there's really nothing you can do to deter someone who is intent on breaking in. Make sure your valuables and personal info paperwork are in a safe and have a good alarm monitoring company who provides armed response.
Oh yeah, my last line of defense if I am not at home and the alarm is triggered is not some wimpy siren. I have TWO TRAIN HORNS with compressors and all mounted in my attic both have backup power supplies with triggers that detect any sort of tampering. One at each end of the house with the horns pointing through a speaker grille. I'm not kidding when I say that if you are ANYWHERE inside my house when these things go off you will be absolutely incapacitated and totally unable to do anything but GET THE FU@K OUTSIDE ASAP. If you think a train horn is loud outside....imagine what it sounds like INSIDE a house with nice hardwood floors and 15' ceilings
http://trainhorns.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYcnYLK_50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnPE6nGXVqE
If you are away from home, there's really nothing you can do to deter someone who is intent on breaking in. Make sure your valuables and personal info paperwork are in a safe and have a good alarm monitoring company who provides armed response.
Oh yeah, my last line of defense if I am not at home and the alarm is triggered is not some wimpy siren. I have TWO TRAIN HORNS with compressors and all mounted in my attic both have backup power supplies with triggers that detect any sort of tampering. One at each end of the house with the horns pointing through a speaker grille. I'm not kidding when I say that if you are ANYWHERE inside my house when these things go off you will be absolutely incapacitated and totally unable to do anything but GET THE FU@K OUTSIDE ASAP. If you think a train horn is loud outside....imagine what it sounds like INSIDE a house with nice hardwood floors and 15' ceilings
http://trainhorns.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYcnYLK_50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnPE6nGXVqE
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My back up is a Sig 229
But what I really need is the is the Blackwater AA-12 automatic shootgun, kinda like a Black Series of shotguns!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c
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its always best to err on the side of caution . the trend now in the uk ( what with trackersystems and alarms etc on cars for thieves to overcome ) is for the thief to wait on your property . then as you approach your car you are greeted with a man wielding a knife or brandishing a gun .
a good perimeter type alarm system is invaluable if you ask me . as this warns you of a person on your land , preparing you and giving you valuable time .
these things only happen once then its regret , regret , regret .
a good perimeter type alarm system is invaluable if you ask me . as this warns you of a person on your land , preparing you and giving you valuable time .
these things only happen once then its regret , regret , regret .
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I agree, a big well trained dog, glock and a state of the art alarm system is the only way to go. He's only 18 months, 135lbs and very protective over his home and family....
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I agree with everything you've said. I have the dogs, the guns, the security system and a lot more. But, I don't think you can be too safe and too secure in today's challenging world.
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My first response was obviously a goof and for that I apologize.
I am truly amazed at some of the safety measures that many members have taken............multiple guns, dogs, alarms, surveillance equipment, steel doors etc..............wow!! Are these precautions taken because of where you live? I understand that x-military and law enforcement individuals often go for safety overkill but that's not what we have here. Maybe I'm being naive and have underestimated the potential danger of my surroundings.
I guess I have never felt that threatened to take so many safety measures. I have a few in place but nowhere near the level of some of you. Maybe I should do more.........
I am truly amazed at some of the safety measures that many members have taken............multiple guns, dogs, alarms, surveillance equipment, steel doors etc..............wow!! Are these precautions taken because of where you live? I understand that x-military and law enforcement individuals often go for safety overkill but that's not what we have here. Maybe I'm being naive and have underestimated the potential danger of my surroundings.
I guess I have never felt that threatened to take so many safety measures. I have a few in place but nowhere near the level of some of you. Maybe I should do more.........
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My first response was obviously a goof and for that I apologize.
I am truly amazed at some of the safety measures that many members have taken............multiple guns, dogs, alarms, surveillance equipment, steel doors etc..............wow!! Are these precautions taken because of where you live? I understand that x-military and law enforcement individuals often go for safety overkill but that's not what we have here. Maybe I'm being naive and have underestimated the potential danger of my surroundings.
I guess I have never felt that threatened to take so many safety measures. I have a few in place but nowhere near the level of some of you. Maybe I should do more.........
I am truly amazed at some of the safety measures that many members have taken............multiple guns, dogs, alarms, surveillance equipment, steel doors etc..............wow!! Are these precautions taken because of where you live? I understand that x-military and law enforcement individuals often go for safety overkill but that's not what we have here. Maybe I'm being naive and have underestimated the potential danger of my surroundings.
I guess I have never felt that threatened to take so many safety measures. I have a few in place but nowhere near the level of some of you. Maybe I should do more.........
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Some of this stuff makes people sound like Burt from the movie Tremors or the Smith family from the movie Hostage.
In all honesty, I think the stuff is cool, but really, a dog, a regular security system, and a shotgun are likely all that is necessary.
In all honesty, I think the stuff is cool, but really, a dog, a regular security system, and a shotgun are likely all that is necessary.
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I think it is sympotamatic of a society that is increasingly divided between the have and have nots. Most people lack "situational awareness" and become a crime statistic because they failed to recognize and avoid the daily changes we encounter in people and our surroundings. From my perspective it makes sense to control my own secuity as much as I can because in the end you can only rely upon yourself.
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If you haven't done so already, consider going with a wireless-monitored alarm system. Others have provided valuable feedback too...
If your home has been targeted by pros, there isn't much of anything you can do.
If your home has been targeted by pros, there isn't much of anything you can do.
