OZ or HRE rims
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Hi,
Still havn,t ordered my track rims, as I have been getting conflicting info re wheel offset and tracking problem.
The OZ wheel I was told has offset of 30mm front for the 9inch and the rear 32mm for the 10inch.
The OE has 25mm front for the 9 inch and 31mm rear for the 9.5inch.
The HRE will make a 9.5inch front with 16mm offset and 11inch rear with 28 mm offset.
I was advised that the OZ wheel would undertrack the vehicle.
Correct me if I am wrong ,in assuming the HRE would track the car wider
the OZ would be 5mm undertracked at the front and 1mm at the rear.
Would this be a problem?.
The HRE 11inch wheel was due to the fact I am going to fit 295X19X30
Toyo Proxies R888.
My vehicle is not lowered.
The HRE are my first choice though the OZ are a better price.
I know a few of you have different rims etc and would appreciate any
advice before I order.
Also has any one heard or used the new Pirelli Trofea presumably to replace the Corsa?
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Still havn,t ordered my track rims, as I have been getting conflicting info re wheel offset and tracking problem.
The OZ wheel I was told has offset of 30mm front for the 9inch and the rear 32mm for the 10inch.
The OE has 25mm front for the 9 inch and 31mm rear for the 9.5inch.
The HRE will make a 9.5inch front with 16mm offset and 11inch rear with 28 mm offset.
I was advised that the OZ wheel would undertrack the vehicle.
Correct me if I am wrong ,in assuming the HRE would track the car wider
the OZ would be 5mm undertracked at the front and 1mm at the rear.
Would this be a problem?.
The HRE 11inch wheel was due to the fact I am going to fit 295X19X30
Toyo Proxies R888.
My vehicle is not lowered.
The HRE are my first choice though the OZ are a better price.
I know a few of you have different rims etc and would appreciate any
advice before I order.
Also has any one heard or used the new Pirelli Trofea presumably to replace the Corsa?
I.S
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I would say of those to use oz...but I would go to a company like Fikse and have them make you a set (or whoever owns them now) as they are amazing and have incredible pedigree.
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Me personally i'd go with HRE Competition series since you'll be using it for the tracks.
You can go as wide as 10's upfront and 12's on the rears. IIRC the widest tires you can go on the front is 275's and up to 305's on the rear. Not sure about the ET though.
Probably talk to Neal at Euroteck and he can advise you.
GL
You can go as wide as 10's upfront and 12's on the rears. IIRC the widest tires you can go on the front is 275's and up to 305's on the rear. Not sure about the ET though.
Probably talk to Neal at Euroteck and he can advise you.
GL
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Me personally i'd go with HRE Competition series since you'll be using it for the tracks.
You can go as wide as 10's upfront and 12's on the rears. IIRC the widest tires you can go on the front is 275's and up to 305's on the rear. Not sure about the ET though.
Probably talk to Neal at Euroteck and he can advise you.
GL
You can go as wide as 10's upfront and 12's on the rears. IIRC the widest tires you can go on the front is 275's and up to 305's on the rear. Not sure about the ET though.
Probably talk to Neal at Euroteck and he can advise you.
GL
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Not a BS owner so nothing to show. Was just saying that i saw a setup like it in one of the forums and that's what the measurement was if i remember correctly.
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Shuttie, I chose the HRE's for my car because I wanted a certain width, offset and look only a custom made wheel can provide for this car. They are a little more money, so it depends if you're willing to spend it for that reason. Take also into consideration whether you want cast aluminum or forged aluminum wheels and if that makes a difference to you. I'm running the same dimensions you posted. If you have any more questions or want to see pictures what it will look like, let me know.
BTW, my car is lowered .......
BTW, my car is lowered .......
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Thanks for your reply, where did you obtain the 12mm spacers and did you have to purchase new studs ?. I would only use the spacers for the front which I think will give a 3mm wider track each wheel.
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Definitely need new studs because the seat on the OZ's are different than stock.
Check with Luke Pavlik at Tirerack, +1 888 727 8092, extension 362, he knows his stuff. He can ship the studs with the wheels.
If the phone doesn't work, you can reach him through the tire forum here.
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Shuttie, I chose the HRE's for my car because I wanted a certain width, offset and look only a custom made wheel can provide for this car. They are a little more money, so it depends if you're willing to spend it for that reason. Take also into consideration whether you want cast aluminum or forged aluminum wheels and if that makes a difference to you. I'm running the same dimensions you posted. If you have any more questions or want to see pictures what it will look like, let me know.
BTW, my car is lowered .......
BTW, my car is lowered .......
Thanks for the reply, I would certainly prefer the forged HRE though if I purchased those I would use them for the track only, also I like the satin
gun metal colour which isnt available on the OZ. If I buy the OZ I would only use them for street use only with continental tyres and use the OE rims for the track.
Did you fit the 11inch at the rear if so have you had any rubbing issues?
Did you lower via the OE adjustments which seem to go in 5mm increments, as this would fill more of the guard space.
I would like to see pictures of your wheels when you can.
Thanks
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I've owned HRE and wasn't impressed. They've had some issues with track cars and were banned from use by some sanctioning bodies (not sure if that was resolved but I'd think it would be by now).
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
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I've owned HRE and wasn't impressed. They've had some issues with track cars and were banned from use by some sanctioning bodies (not sure if that was resolved but I'd think it would be by now).
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
The "undertrack" issue as posted by OP certainly sounds reasonable but I'm not sure if anyone would actually notice a performance difference with a grand total of 10mm difference in front track width?
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Hi BTW,
Thanks for the reply, I would certainly prefer the forged HRE though if I purchased those I would use them for the track only, also I like the satin
gun metal colour which isnt available on the OZ. If I buy the OZ I would only use them for street use only with continental tyres and use the OE rims for the track.
Did you fit the 11inch at the rear if so have you had any rubbing issues?
Did you lower via the OE adjustments which seem to go in 5mm increments, as this would fill more of the guard space.
I would like to see pictures of your wheels when you can.
Thanks
I.S
Thanks for the reply, I would certainly prefer the forged HRE though if I purchased those I would use them for the track only, also I like the satin
gun metal colour which isnt available on the OZ. If I buy the OZ I would only use them for street use only with continental tyres and use the OE rims for the track.
Did you fit the 11inch at the rear if so have you had any rubbing issues?
Did you lower via the OE adjustments which seem to go in 5mm increments, as this would fill more of the guard space.
I would like to see pictures of your wheels when you can.
Thanks
I.S
I changed the springs which are a little shorter and have a higher rate when I had the car lowered on the OE threads. I'm running 9.5" in the front and 10.5" in the back, which don't rub at all, even at the track in a 120 mph corner with a couple of undulations in the road where you can really feel the rear suspension work. You might also consider changing the rear one piece rotors out for lighter composite ones to match the front to further reduce unsprung weight.
Not sure what style you have decided on, but here are some pictures of my car with the monoblock wheels to give you an idea of the offset. Hope that helps.
BTW, love the country you live in, especially Hayman island
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I've owned HRE and wasn't impressed. They've had some issues with track cars and were banned from use by some sanctioning bodies (not sure if that was resolved but I'd think it would be by now).
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
OZ's are nicely made wheels and certainly more cost effective. CCW or Forgeline would be better than HRE's for track use, IMHO.
Ya, thats why we dont use any of them. My cup only runs on fikses and jongbloeds. CCW makes a decent wheel for the track. Forgeline will definitely work as well.
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hey SMP, I live in SoCal and the inside my wheel wells look nothing like. It looks as if you pay someone to lick them clean twicE a day. Nice JOB of making the rest of us look DIRTY.
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your set up is perfect. Looks nice.
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your set up is perfect. Looks nice.
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Thanks for the photos, I have decided on the O.Z for the time being and will use spacers to correct the offset.I will order a set of 2 piece rear rotors from Evosport and fit them when I fit new OE front rotors .
Keeping your vehicle clean like that requires time but is sure worth the effort.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Hayman is as good as it gets, though never been there.
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Keeping your vehicle clean like that requires time but is sure worth the effort.
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Hayman is as good as it gets, though never been there.
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