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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 03:33 PM
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Smile FINALLY doing my OE Tune on Monday! Will Keep my CLS-ers Updated

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This section of the forum has been dead for a while so I hope this can give it some life since our cars are so beautiful! I have been wanting the tune for a while but couldn't get around to it but luckily have some time this upcoming week.
The guys at OE thus far have been in excellent communication with me so I am excited to see the gains! Won't be doing a dyno run prior so the butt dyno will have to suffice!

Let's bring this CLS section back to life!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 02:47 AM
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Hello MB World!

This section of the forum has been dead for a while so I hope this can give it some life since our cars are so beautiful! I have been wanting the tune for a while but couldn't get around to it but luckily have some time this upcoming week.
The guys at OE thus far have been in excellent communication with me so I am excited to see the gains! Won't be doing a dyno run prior so the butt dyno will have to suffice!

Let's bring this CLS section back to life!!!
Cool.

Are they tuning it for 91 octane fuel or higher octane?

What gains are you expecting?

What is there advice on spark plugs? In my reasearch, aggressive tuning requires more frequent plug replacement with a tighter 0.022 gap.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 02:13 PM
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Cool.

Are they tuning it for 91 octane fuel or higher octane?

What gains are you expecting?

What is there advice on spark plugs? In my reasearch, aggressive tuning requires more frequent plug replacement with a tighter 0.022 gap.
they tune based on 91 in cali! i believe for 93 as well if im not mistaken!
like every other tune for this car, they claim 100whp and 110wtq...
i am not aware if those need to be changed with the tune, they said it is essentially plug and play and it wont affect anything other than enhancing the drive!
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 01:37 AM
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they tune based on 91 in cali! i believe for 93 as well if im not mistaken!
like every other tune for this car, they claim 100whp and 110wtq...
i am not aware if those need to be changed with the tune, they said it is essentially plug and play and it wont affect anything other than enhancing the drive!
Great. I don’t know how these tuners get so much extra power out of this engine... I guess adjusting the timing and boost. But it’s crazy. Anyway, be aware that you may need to replace plugs more frequently as they will wear faster with the added boost.

I look forward to hearing how it goes. I definitely feel the throttle lag on my car. I’d love to make it a bit snappier so I’ve been looking at tunes as well. I may go with RennTech’s intermediate tune for 91 octane.
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 03:40 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFranchizeSLB
Hello MB World!

This section of the forum has been dead for a while so I hope this can give it some life since our cars are so beautiful! I have been wanting the tune for a while but couldn't get around to it but luckily have some time this upcoming week.
The guys at OE thus far have been in excellent communication with me so I am excited to see the gains! Won't be doing a dyno run prior so the butt dyno will have to suffice!

Let's bring this CLS section back to life!!!
I'm interested to know about the braking after the tune. I was watching a youtube video where they were saying the brakes just can't handle all that power. Please let us know if the braking is adequate for the tune.
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 04:24 PM
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I'm interested to know about the braking after the tune. I was watching a youtube video where they were saying the brakes just can't handle all that power. Please let us know if the braking is adequate for the tune.
That doesn't make much sense. Whether you tune your car or not shouldn't affect how it brakes. If you drive like crazy at high speeds then you may need better brakes regardless of whether you've tuned your car or not.
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 05:57 PM
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That doesn't make much sense. Whether you tune your car or not shouldn't affect how it brakes. If you drive like crazy at high speeds then you may need better brakes regardless of whether you've tuned your car or not.

Actually...that makes a lot of sense to me. More Force, more energy, more Gforce, of course you would need more braking power. Why does the CLS63 have bigger brakes, why does the M5 have bigger brakes than the 550i? Faster acceleration will need more braking power to stop.It's just a matter of whether the current braking on the CLS550 sufficient with the tune.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 12:59 AM
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I have a tune and now I want bigger brakes; the one on it are fine....but you WILL find that you are simply going faster now. It is hard to not stomp on the gas at every other light.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 02:52 AM
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Actually...that makes a lot of sense to me. More Force, more energy, more Gforce, of course you would need more braking power. Why does the CLS63 have bigger brakes, why does the M5 have bigger brakes than the 550i? Faster acceleration will need more braking power to stop.It's just a matter of whether the current braking on the CLS550 sufficient with the tune.
The amount of braking force to stop a car at say 100MPH is the same whether you got to that speed via your highly tuned twin turbo or because you were pushed over a hill by your granny at idle. Just because you have a tune does not mean you need bigger brakes. Bigger, heavier vehicles need bigger brakes. And high speeds and needing to slow down quickly (racing) require bigger brakes. If you track you car, you probably would benefit from bigger brakes. AMG and M vehicles are designed to be tracked.

Anyway, if you think you need biggef brakes, go for it, but there’s no blanket statement that says tuning must be accompanied by a brake upgrade.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFranchizeSLB
Hello MB World!

This section of the forum has been dead for a while so I hope this can give it some life since our cars are so beautiful! I have been wanting the tune for a while but couldn't get around to it but luckily have some time this upcoming week.
The guys at OE thus far have been in excellent communication with me so I am excited to see the gains! Won't be doing a dyno run prior so the butt dyno will have to suffice!

Let's bring this CLS section back to life!!!
How did it go?
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by VirtualRain

... And high speeds and needing to slow down quickly (racing) require bigger brakes.


..and there it is. Faster acceleration on regular roads will require the ability to stop or slow the car quickly and safely. It's just a matter of science. There's also this thing called torque which produces more Gforce, 0-60 in a CLS550 is not the same as 0-60 in a Toyota. If you have to stop suddenly, will your car stop with the current brakes after hard acceleration on this tun? If you noted, I asked a question which I would like to have an answer to. Not sure what your point is other than trying to say someone is asking a question that doesn't make sense to you. Just in case you haven't realized, it makes a lot of sense to ME so I would like to hear what people with tunes have to say, hopefully that's ok with you. If not, I couldn't care less.

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Ok guys...

Got it done yesterday, which was coincidentally my anniversary day as well so the wife came with me, and they got it done very quick.

Right away we noticed it was much more snappy when you get on the throttle but completely manageable and normal when you drive regularly.
It wants to pull pull and pull away the more when you're on it which is awesome AND when it is in E mode, it is so much more responsive. These cars are boats so it helps with that aspect. I didn't get to go too hard because in lovely Los Angeles, traffic/dumb drivers doesn't allow it. I also had wifey with me so i can not wait to get on it when im alone in the car!

I am planning to get Renntech's intake filters soon and eventually downpipes or exhaust system and a stage 2 tune, so we will see where it goes. But, so far, so good!

For the price, I DEFINITELY recommend it. In my opinion, these cars look so different, hence why i purchased one, so having the looks and power definitely make me feel EXTREMELY satisfied with the car. I also have a resonator delete and secondary cat delete so the car sounds amazing, especially when cold! GO OUT AND GET A TUNE!!! ENJOY THE CAR TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL WITHOUT SACRIFICING DAILY DRIVING!!!!! this will definitely suffice until i decide to pull the trigger on an AMG!

If you have any questions please let me know!! I would love to help anyway I can for anyone considering it.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 02:08 PM
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..and there it is. Faster acceleration on regular roads will require the ability to stop or slow the car quickly and safely. It's just a matter of science. There's also this thing called torque which produces more Gforce, 0-60 in a CLS550 is not the same as 0-60 in a Toyota. If you have to stop suddenly, will your car stop with the current brakes after hard acceleration on this tun? If you noted, I asked a question which I would like to have an answer to. Not sure what your point is other than trying to say someone is asking a question that doesn't make sense to you. Just in case you haven't realized, it makes a lot of sense to ME so I would like to hear what people with tunes have to say, hopefully that's ok with you. If not, I couldn't care less.
Honestly, I did need a brake job prior to the tune, now I feel i need it even more! I understand both sides of the argument, but definitely feel since it is putting down more power, it needs some better braking power since realistically i wont be racing on the track but rather getting on it in the streets when applicable. And with the asinine drivers in southern california, being able to brake quickly is very important because every other second you're getting cut off and having to brake fast.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 02:14 PM
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I have a tune and now I want bigger brakes; the one on it are fine....but you WILL find that you are simply going faster now. It is hard to not stomp on the gas at every other light.
Man this is the truth! EVERY opportunity yesterday I was trying to get on it! such a great feeling being pulled into the backseat haha. Bigger brakes for sure, though. Have you looked around yet for any upgrades?
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Ok guys...

Got it done yesterday, which was coincidentally my anniversary day as well so the wife came with me, and they got it done very quick.

Right away we noticed it was much more snappy when you get on the throttle but completely manageable and normal when you drive regularly.
It wants to pull pull and pull away the more when you're on it which is awesome AND when it is in E mode, it is so much more responsive. These cars are boats so it helps with that aspect. I didn't get to go too hard because in lovely Los Angeles, traffic/dumb drivers doesn't allow it. I also had wifey with me so i can not wait to get on it when im alone in the car!

I am planning to get Renntech's intake filters soon and eventually downpipes or exhaust system and a stage 2 tune, so we will see where it goes. But, so far, so good!

For the price, I DEFINITELY recommend it. In my opinion, these cars look so different, hence why i purchased one, so having the looks and power definitely make me feel EXTREMELY satisfied with the car. I also have a resonator delete and secondary cat delete so the car sounds amazing, especially when cold! GO OUT AND GET A TUNE!!! ENJOY THE CAR TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL WITHOUT SACRIFICING DAILY DRIVING!!!!! this will definitely suffice until i decide to pull the trigger on an AMG!

If you have any questions please let me know!! I would love to help anyway I can for anyone considering it.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear you are enjoying the additional power.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 05:28 PM
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..and there it is. Faster acceleration on regular roads will require the ability to stop or slow the car quickly and safely. It's just a matter of science. There's also this thing called torque which produces more Gforce, 0-60 in a CLS550 is not the same as 0-60 in a Toyota. If you have to stop suddenly, will your car stop with the current brakes after hard acceleration on this tun? If you noted, I asked a question which I would like to have an answer to. Not sure what your point is other than trying to say someone is asking a question that doesn't make sense to you. Just in case you haven't realized, it makes a lot of sense to ME so I would like to hear what people with tunes have to say, hopefully that's ok with you. If not, I couldn't care less.
I don't understand your analogy. Engine torque has nothing to do with braking force. It doesn't matter if I accelerated to 60 in 5 seconds or 500 seconds I'm still stopping from 60mph. Adding more power or torque to the engine isn't going to change braking distance or power at all. It's just a matter of science.

Obviously if you're doing more spirited driving or, like VirtualRain said, tracking it after you've got the tune you'll be using the brakes more and may notice them fading it but if you're driving the same way as before you got the tune but just accelerating faster it'll be the same.

Anyway, I'm hoping to get the tune later in the year/early next year. I don't really want more power, I just want to get rid of the lag between me touching the gas and it deciding to move.

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Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear you are enjoying the additional power.
One question OE:

With this tune, will I need to be doing any AFR monitoring or anything of the sort? I just want to be on the safe side and know if I am running rich or if there are any other issues that may arise from it.
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I don't understand your analogy. Engine torque has nothing to do with braking force. It doesn't matter if I accelerated to 60 in 5 seconds or 500 seconds I'm still stopping from 60mph. Adding more power or torque to the engine isn't going to change braking distance or power at all. It's just a matter of science.

Obviously if you're doing more spirited driving or, like VirtualRain said, tracking it after you've got the tune you'll be using the brakes more and may notice them fading it but if you're driving the same way as before you got the tune but just accelerating faster it'll be the same.

Anyway, I'm hoping to get the tune later in the year/early next year. I don't really want more power, I just want to get rid of the lag between me touching the gas and it deciding to move.
My question was answered. You can continue the debate with VirtualRain if you so wish.
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My question was answered. You can continue the debate with VirtualRain if you so wish.
Glad I could help.
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Ok guys...

Got it done yesterday, which was coincidentally my anniversary day as well so the wife came with me, and they got it done very quick.

Right away we noticed it was much more snappy when you get on the throttle but completely manageable and normal when you drive regularly.
It wants to pull pull and pull away the more when you're on it which is awesome AND when it is in E mode, it is so much more responsive. These cars are boats so it helps with that aspect. I didn't get to go too hard because in lovely Los Angeles, traffic/dumb drivers doesn't allow it. I also had wifey with me so i can not wait to get on it when im alone in the car!

I am planning to get Renntech's intake filters soon and eventually downpipes or exhaust system and a stage 2 tune, so we will see where it goes. But, so far, so good!

For the price, I DEFINITELY recommend it. In my opinion, these cars look so different, hence why i purchased one, so having the looks and power definitely make me feel EXTREMELY satisfied with the car. I also have a resonator delete and secondary cat delete so the car sounds amazing, especially when cold! GO OUT AND GET A TUNE!!! ENJOY THE CAR TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL WITHOUT SACRIFICING DAILY DRIVING!!!!! this will definitely suffice until i decide to pull the trigger on an AMG!

If you have any questions please let me know!! I would love to help anyway I can for anyone considering it.
I think RennTech just resells the BMC filters. Consider this intake setup... it comes with reusable filters just like the BMCs but with risers that raise the filter up out of the intake path...
http://ultimatepd.com/2011-2017-merc...boost-kit.html

They are a forum sponsor... https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...boost-kit.html
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Hello All! I just wanted to give everyone an update since it has been a week since the tune. It has gotten increasingly better! The ecu is learning and you can tell. E mode is what my old S mode was.. S is just ridiculous.. love it!!
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