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Hello All, started to notice a sudden and urgent oil leak from the M278.
started with a few drops but moved to a consistent drip when on, which means it’s under pressure.
took a look and started removing things and it seems to be from the Oil filter housing or cooler itself. My guess is the housing since the oil seems to coming from higher up
My local dealership has the gaskets for both and that’s what I think i will replace. Anyone have a reason to replace the whole housing assembly?
Same issue here, I went to the local shop who work with these engines and saw nine other 63s and 550s with similar leaks. The told me to wash the engine (front) and drive it for a while so we could see where exactly the oil is leaking from. Very common issue on m278 engines for some reason. I would not be too concerned as long as you keep adding oil to it and it does not drip down to alternator.
For an update, I ended up replacing quite a few seals and took most of the front end of the engine off. This was quite the undertaking but I am happy with how it turned out and it ended up savings me tons of $$$ compared to the dealership charges.
Timing Cover Seals/Camshaft Gaskets, pretty simple, uses RTV to seal and new aluminum screws (000000006365) ($10 each, I didn’t replace all of them, only the lower ones as they seemed to have more of a sealing function), remove the Camshaft adjuster magnets and replace the O-Rings (0169975045) ($5 each) and screws (0009903924) ($3 each), they are aluminum and break easily with thread locker on them.
Oil Cooler Gasket (2781840080) ($20), or use the Elring Klinger part, it’s the same as the dealership part but cheaper. This job was not too bad, remove the belt/tensioner, 4 screws, pull it off, coolant and oil comes out, clean off the sealing surfaces, put the new gasket on, reattach
Oil Filter Housing, this was the worst jobs of all of these. It requires a lot of removal of other parts just to get to it, and is not a fun job overall. You must remove most of the front end, Covers, Belt, Fan (if you want more room), Thermostat Housing (replace the O-Ring (0229976445), draining coolant, remove Charge Pipes, Turbo Coolant Lines (Thankfully I only broke 1), Radiator Pipes, tons of screws holding things on, it was really a lot of work with uncomfortable angles and not much room
I talked with my dealership and they said they typically just replace the Housing (2781800710) which is a $200+ part. It’s a well made part and has 4 points of leakage, and I replaced these instead of the entire housing which saved some $$$
Oil Filter Cap (shouldn’t leak if you replace the O-Ring (0209975445) during oil changes and don’t over torque the cap.
Oil Housing Cap (pressure relief) (2781800438) ($30)
Oil Filter Housing Main Seal (2781840280) ($10)
Oil Distributor Screw (001-997-20-01) ($10), I Stripped mine when removing the oil distributor/sensor which is why I had to replace it. Strangely enough this part doesn’t show up on the CLS or E550 M278. Only the 2015+ S550 and S63.
Hopefully this helps someone, let me know if you need more information or tips.
For an update, I ended up replacing quite a few seals and took most of the front end of the engine off. This was quite the undertaking but I am happy with how it turned out and it ended up savings me tons of $$$ compared to the dealership charges.
Timing Cover Seals/Camshaft Gaskets, pretty simple, uses RTV to seal and new aluminum screws (000000006365) ($10 each, I didn’t replace all of them, only the lower ones as they seemed to have more of a sealing function), remove the Camshaft adjuster magnets and replace the O-Rings (0169975045) ($5 each) and screws (0009903924) ($3 each), they are aluminum and break easily with thread locker on them.
Oil Cooler Gasket (2781840080) ($20), or use the Elring Klinger part, it’s the same as the dealership part but cheaper. This job was not too bad, remove the belt/tensioner, 4 screws, pull it off, coolant and oil comes out, clean off the sealing surfaces, put the new gasket on, reattach
Oil Filter Housing, this was the worst jobs of all of these. It requires a lot of removal of other parts just to get to it, and is not a fun job overall. You must remove most of the front end, Covers, Belt, Fan (if you want more room), Thermostat Housing (replace the O-Ring (0229976445), draining coolant, remove Charge Pipes, Turbo Coolant Lines (Thankfully I only broke 1), Radiator Pipes, tons of screws holding things on, it was really a lot of work with uncomfortable angles and not much room
I talked with my dealership and they said they typically just replace the Housing (2781800710) which is a $200+ part. It’s a well made part and has 4 points of leakage, and I replaced these instead of the entire housing which saved some $$$
Oil Filter Cap (shouldn’t leak if you replace the O-Ring (0209975445) during oil changes and don’t over torque the cap.
Oil Housing Cap (pressure relief) (2781800438) ($30)
Oil Filter Housing Main Seal (2781840280) ($10)
Oil Distributor Screw (001-997-20-01) ($10), I Stripped mine when removing the oil distributor/sensor which is why I had to replace it. Strangely enough this part doesn’t show up on the CLS or E550 M278. Only the 2015+ S550 and S63.
Hopefully this helps someone, let me know if you need more information or tips.
As a new member to the platform, I'd like to say ...fantastic information...Thank you Sir!
I'd like to ask, how many cam magnet o- rings does the job require? I'm assuming 4, 2 on each bank....but please correct me if I'm wrong.
also, is Ultra Black RTV any good to reseal the timing cover?
Oil Housing Cap (pressure relief) (2781800438) ($30)
The one on my 63 is leaking. Anyone just replace this part? Taking everything apart looks to be a terrible job but this looks much easier. How is it attached?
An update, this can be done. To remove you turn the piece clockwise and installation is counterclockwise. It is under spring pressure so you will have to press really hard to install but can be done without removing oil filter housing.
An update, this can be done. To remove you turn the piece clockwise and installation is counterclockwise. It is under spring pressure so you will have to press really hard to install but can be done without removing oil filter housing.
that’s good you can remove it without removing everything, the only thing is that if there is enough oil in that area, it might be hard to distinguish if that or the housing gasket is leaking. Either way, both are easier/cheaper than buying a new housing.
There are 4,one per cam/cam magnet adjuster. I used black RTV on the timing cover. The only thing is that screws used on all these parts are 1x use aluminum screws so you should buy new ones. I did for some, and others i reused with new loctite. Haven’t had any issues, but you should replace them if you’re going “by the book” the cam magnet ones are cheaper, maybe $1-3 each, the timing cover ones are around $10 each, so those are ones that are a significant cost. Just be sure not to over torque them, they are aluminum and snap easily.
Originally Posted by B58DazaM278
As a new member to the platform, I'd like to say ...fantastic information...Thank you Sir!
I'd like to ask, how many cam magnet o- rings does the job require? I'm assuming 4, 2 on each bank....but please correct me if I'm wrong.
also, is Ultra Black RTV any good to reseal the timing cover?
Following up on this. If the upper timing belt covers have oil seeping, what other damage(potential) are there? Oil in the harnesses?
Not to nitpick, but the timing cover is covering a chain. Not a belt.
Regardless, if those are leaking, it will just run downward with gravity. Could take out the AC or Alternator depending on the side.
oil in the harness has more to do with the design of the cam sensors than anything else. An external leak wouldn’t cause it to get into the harness.
Not to nitpick, but the timing cover is covering a chain. Not a belt.
Regardless, if those are leaking, it will just run downward with gravity. Could take out the AC or Alternator depending on the side.
oil in the harness has more to do with the design of the cam sensors than anything else. An external leak wouldn’t cause it to get into the harness.
Thank you for the response and I also stand corrected. I got a PPI done on a 2013 car that I was interested in. Warranty may cover it, but I'm not sure if in the long term its a good idea, but you seemed to have found success resealing everything. 2013 M278 with 48k miles....here are the problems:
1. Upper timing cover seepage (both banks)
2. Front diff seepage
3. Oil pan seepage
The floors are dry, however, I just need to know if this would indicate something more severe on the long run or even worth the repairs. Warranty will cover 100%. What say you?
Thank you for the response and I also stand corrected. I got a PPI done on a 2013 car that I was interested in. Warranty may cover it, but I'm not sure if in the long term its a good idea, but you seemed to have found success resealing everything. 2013 M278 with 48k miles....here are the problems:
1. Upper timing cover seepage (both banks)
2. Front diff seepage
3. Oil pan seepage
The floors are dry, however, I just need to know if this would indicate something more severe on the long run or even worth the repairs. Warranty will cover 100%. What say you?
the timing cover ones aren’t bad. It’s about 10 screws each. Then reseal with liquid gasket. Oil pan might be more trouble. And front diff sounds nasty.