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TIKT was running some serious tests on Hockenheim circuit past weekend. They mounted their duct on the Right and had stock setup on the Left. IR sensors are mounted on the uprights to measure rotor temperatures with logging. Test was performed in order to define the difference in effectiveness between TIKT duct and stock setup. In the video below You can clearly see the difference between left and right and it would have been even bigger if brakes could been pushed further. That was not possible as the difference was so big that it made car unstable as a result of Left side fade and You could feel it on the steering wheel.
They are preparing for next tests by the end of the month where they plan to go with all ducts and see for how long can they race the car.
This is fantastic data. You can really see how the right rotor temps recover so much faster than the left.
I’m sold. How soon will Tikt be working on a rear brake duct solution as for drivers running with ESC on it is paramount that the rear discs run cooler?
I’d like to purchase a F & R solution ASAP with hopes of a Group Buy also.
This is fantastic data. You can really see how the right rotor temps recover so much faster than the left.
I’m sold. How soon will Tikt be working on a rear brake duct solution as for drivers running with ESC on it is paramount that the rear discs run cooler?
I’d like to purchase a F & R solution ASAP with hopes of a Group Buy also.
Bish
Rear ducts are in the final development stage and will be tested soon.
Also have in mind that the numbers You see are the surface of the rotor and differences in the core after some heat sink are are even bigger and more important. Unfortunately it couldn't be demonstreted as ducts worked too good and made an enormous difference... so big that the car couldn't brake in the straight line anymore and abs was going crazy.
Rear ducts are in the final development stage and will be tested soon.
Also have in mind that the numbers You see are the surface of the rotor and differences in the core after some heat sink are are even bigger and more important. Unfortunately it couldn't be demonstreted as ducts worked too good and made an enormous difference... so big that the car couldn't brake in the straight line anymore and abs was going crazy.
I can only imagine that the brake torque differential was significant side to side; hence the ABS throwing a ‘fit’! lol
Get back to us ASAP when the rear ducts are finished.
On the Corvette forum there was/is a USA vendor selling Tikt products. Will there be a distributor selling these GT R parts here, or will we have to purchase directly from Tikt in Germany?
I don't mean to hijack this thread, just thought someone here might need it.
Is anyone interested in some GT R CC track pads and stock pads? I sold my car, don't need them anymore.
I don't know where to get it in the US, so I personally ordered it in Germany and brought it back while I was doing the RING trip last year, put on the car for 200 miles but never got to track it. These pads are very friendly to the rotor and have way better heat resistance comparing to the stock pads. http://www.pagidracing.com/en/produc...rsc/rsc-1.html
Stock pads are brand new.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, just thought someone here might need it.
Is anyone interested in some GT R CC track pads and stock pads? I sold my car, don't need them anymore.
I don't know where to get it in the US, so I personally ordered it in Germany and brought it back while I was doing the RING trip last year, put on the car for 200 miles but never got to track it. These pads are very friendly to the rotor and have way better heat resistance comparing to the stock pads. http://www.pagidracing.com/en/produc...rsc/rsc-1.html
Stock pads are brand new.
I had posted posted a while back on this thread about the rollcage and harnesses for the US spec car and I finally had it installed last month.
The car worked great at COTA and yes you can use a HANS with the stocks seats without scratching or nicking the headrest. I was running Hoosiers and cobalt pads. The car definitely needs brake cooling (i'm on steel rotors). Going to go through Tikt Performance.
Sadly i do not have any pictures of the install but I think the shop did a great job to making it look as "euro-spec" as possible.
I haven't seen anyone in the market using this advanced combination of aerospace chromoly and carbon fiber. Looks really cool and the weight is awesome.
I had posted posted a while back on this thread about the rollcage and harnesses for the US spec car and I finally had it installed last month.
The car worked great at COTA and yes you can use a HANS with the stocks seats without scratching or nicking the headrest. I was running Hoosiers and cobalt pads. The car definitely needs brake cooling (i'm on steel rotors). Going to go through Tikt Performance.
Sadly i do not have any pictures of the install but I think the shop did a great job to making it look as "euro-spec" as possible.
Those seats are not safe with harnesses, I can't believe that any self respecting shop would do an install like that
Those seats are not safe with harnesses, I can't believe that any self respecting shop would do an install like that
So those are the Schroth anti-submarine 4-point harness belts. They are certified by US PCA and BMW CCA HPDE schools for usage with harness bars. On a track with a HANS device they are far safer than the OEM 3 point belt system and make the car far less tiring to drive.
Watching the TIKT duct story, just hope the price isn’t too insane.
the cage looks good, but a small correction about track day legality-PCANA as of 2019 doesn’t allow 4 points UNLESS they are designed to work with factory restraints and car specific (quickfit). Otherwise it is 5 point only now-I believe SCCA and BMW were going in the same direction.
Its becoming a big big challenge on a lot of cars now-you are basically stuck with factory belts, as the quickfit are only available for limited cars and really only with rear seats.
the good news is that between the easy to reach electric seat adjustment and the adjustable bolsters, you should be able to get about 70% of the grip using the old “slide the seat back and tug on the bet” method
So those are the Schroth anti-submarine 4-point harness belts. They are certified by US PCA and BMW CCA HPDE schools for usage with harness bars. On a track with a HANS device they are far safer than the OEM 3 point belt system and make the car far less tiring to drive.
Bish
Its the seat not the belts (although the belts are not great). Even MB state in the UK manual that it’s not to be used with any sort of harness.
There’s more than enough photos online of nasty crashes where seats have failed because they’ve had harnesses fitted in correctly.
I don’t understand why you’d goto to the trouble of fitting the cage but not get some decent buckets.
Lastly they’re not safer than 3 points. They work in roughly the same way as 3 points, the inside shoulder strap collapses in a crash and they essential turn into 3 points(except there’s no pretension function). Their real purpose is to hold you in place more securely.
Last edited by WhiteBlack; Apr 5, 2019 at 03:41 AM.
Thanks to all contributors on this thread, it’s been very informative for me. I’m looking to get a GTs for track day usage to replace my highly modified E92 M3. I’m looking at a non-Premium Pack car to avoid the pano roof, which I presume is heavy and robs headroom. An Edition 1 car would be ideal, unfortunately I can’t afford an R model. Hopefully the GTs can be made as good around a track as my old car.
So far I’ve learnt that I need brake cooling (TIKT) and to replace the discs with two-piece (RENNtech?) and the usual lines, pads and fluids. I use Pagid RS29 and Brembo HTC64 in the M3 on AP BBK, and this produces amazingly strong brakes that last all day long.
I also see RENNtech offer a reasonably priced coilover kit, but is there anything else required? Is there an easy way to reduce weight, maybe replacing the consumer battery with a Liteblox battery? I would replace the standard seats with Tillet carbon fibre ones as bucket seats seem to be a rare option.
I’m based in the UK and have quick access to many great tracks, and Spa/Nordschleife aren’t very far away. I’m looking forward to the experience.
Thanks to all contributors on this thread, it’s been very informative for me. I’m looking to get a GTs for track day usage to replace my highly modified E92 M3. I’m looking at a non-Premium Pack car to avoid the pano roof, which I presume is heavy and robs headroom. An Edition 1 car would be ideal, unfortunately I can’t afford an R model. Hopefully the GTs can be made as good around a track as my old car.
So far I’ve learnt that I need brake cooling (TIKT) and to replace the discs with two-piece (RENNtech?) and the usual lines, pads and fluids. I use Pagid RS29 and Brembo HTC64 in the M3 on AP BBK, and this produces amazingly strong brakes that last all day long.
I also see RENNtech offer a reasonably priced coilover kit, but is there anything else required? Is there an easy way to reduce weight, maybe replacing the consumer battery with a Liteblox battery? I would replace the standard seats with Tillet carbon fibre ones as bucket seats seem to be a rare option.
I’m based in the UK and have quick access to many great tracks, and Spa/Nordschleife aren’t very far away. I’m looking forward to the experience.
I have not heard any reviews about the Renntech brake discs, other than renntech, but I would suggest looking into AP or girodisc
Thanks to all contributors on this thread, it’s been very informative for me. I’m looking to get a GTs for track day usage to replace my highly modified E92 M3. I’m looking at a non-Premium Pack car to avoid the pano roof, which I presume is heavy and robs headroom. An Edition 1 car would be ideal, unfortunately I can’t afford an R model. Hopefully the GTs can be made as good around a track as my old car.
So far I’ve learnt that I need brake cooling (TIKT) and to replace the discs with two-piece (RENNtech?) and the usual lines, pads and fluids. I use Pagid RS29 and Brembo HTC64 in the M3 on AP BBK, and this produces amazingly strong brakes that last all day long.
I also see RENNtech offer a reasonably priced coilover kit, but is there anything else required? Is there an easy way to reduce weight, maybe replacing the consumer battery with a Liteblox battery? I would replace the standard seats with Tillet carbon fibre ones as bucket seats seem to be a rare option.
I’m based in the UK and have quick access to many great tracks, and Spa/Nordschleife aren’t very far away. I’m looking forward to the experience.
Decartesfool here on the forum has tracked his GTS extensively, and I know of no better resource than he for the info you need.
An Edition 1 car would be ideal, unfortunately I can’t afford an R model. Hopefully the GTs can be made as good around a track as my old car.
I did about 10 track days in my GTs Edition 1. I sold the car due to how often an issue would arise after a track day. I do not advise going down this route unless you are a mechanic, especially with a 2016 car. The cars just don't hold up to track use beyond beginners (AMG Academy is not real track use, IMO). If I were in your shoes, I'd buy the best GT3 I could afford and go from there, or happily enjoy a GTs on the street.
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