My GTR Is Broken Again... Now I'm Really Mad...
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My GTR Is Broken Again... Now I'm Really Mad...
For those of you that don't know, this happened to me two weeks after I got the car - a doozy of a story here.
GTR Broke Down and Wouldn't Start and Couldn't be Towed......
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Don't know why that copied in giant text but I don't care. So on a drive home tonight the steering all of a sudden got stiff. I mean it took some real effort to make a turn. Feels like power steering pump went out. All temps normal and no codes, no leaks, nothing under the car, didn't hit anything and so on. Drove home just now, turned it off and restarted and the same thing. Feels like an old school GM car when the power steering belt broke. You have to be Hercules to turn the damn thing. I'll be blowing up the dealer's phone first thing in the AM. I'll update as soon as I hear anything. Going to research it now. Chime in if you know anything. I would suspect it would be an AMG GT all variants type of thing anyways. I'm really bent about this. Especially what happened to the car two weeks after I got it. Another thing, I shut the door last week (normally) and heard a weird sound as I turned to walk away, I saw the frickin mirror glass popped out and was hanging by some wires. Luckily, the dealer is five minutes from my house. So I drove over with my hand out the window holding it in place. The shop foreman checked it and said the clips/attachments looked fine and popped back into place in the service drive and I tipped him $20. Now I'm paranoid, when I shut my door that I do it gently in fear of it may happen again. Rant over - Xanax time and off to sleep.
GTR Broke Down and Wouldn't Start and Couldn't be Towed......
https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt/69...n-t-towed.html
Don't know why that copied in giant text but I don't care. So on a drive home tonight the steering all of a sudden got stiff. I mean it took some real effort to make a turn. Feels like power steering pump went out. All temps normal and no codes, no leaks, nothing under the car, didn't hit anything and so on. Drove home just now, turned it off and restarted and the same thing. Feels like an old school GM car when the power steering belt broke. You have to be Hercules to turn the damn thing. I'll be blowing up the dealer's phone first thing in the AM. I'll update as soon as I hear anything. Going to research it now. Chime in if you know anything. I would suspect it would be an AMG GT all variants type of thing anyways. I'm really bent about this. Especially what happened to the car two weeks after I got it. Another thing, I shut the door last week (normally) and heard a weird sound as I turned to walk away, I saw the frickin mirror glass popped out and was hanging by some wires. Luckily, the dealer is five minutes from my house. So I drove over with my hand out the window holding it in place. The shop foreman checked it and said the clips/attachments looked fine and popped back into place in the service drive and I tipped him $20. Now I'm paranoid, when I shut my door that I do it gently in fear of it may happen again. Rant over - Xanax time and off to sleep.
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For those of you that don't know, this happened to me two weeks after I got the car - a doozy of a story here.
GTR Broke Down and Wouldn't Start and Couldn't be Towed......
https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt/69...n-t-towed.html
Don't know why that copied in giant text but I don't care. So on a drive home tonight the steering all of a sudden got stiff. I mean it took some real effort to make a turn. Feels like power steering pump went out. All temps normal and no codes, no leaks, nothing under the car, didn't hit anything and so on. Drove home just now, turned it off and restarted and the same thing. Feels like an old school GM car when the power steering belt broke. You have to be Hercules to turn the damn thing. I'll be blowing up the dealer's phone first thing in the AM. I'll update as soon as I hear anything. Going to research it now. Chime in if you know anything. I would suspect it would be an AMG GT all variants type of thing anyways. I'm really bent about this. Especially what happened to the car two weeks after I got it. Another thing, I shut the door last week (normally) and heard a weird sound as I turned to walk away, I saw the frickin mirror glass popped out and was hanging by some wires. Luckily, the dealer is five minutes from my house. So I drove over with my hand out the window holding it in place. The shop foreman checked it and said the clips/attachments looked fine and popped back into place in the service drive and I tipped him $20. Now I'm paranoid, when I shut my door that I do it gently in fear of it may happen again. Rant over - Xanax time and off to sleep.
GTR Broke Down and Wouldn't Start and Couldn't be Towed......
https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt/69...n-t-towed.html
Don't know why that copied in giant text but I don't care. So on a drive home tonight the steering all of a sudden got stiff. I mean it took some real effort to make a turn. Feels like power steering pump went out. All temps normal and no codes, no leaks, nothing under the car, didn't hit anything and so on. Drove home just now, turned it off and restarted and the same thing. Feels like an old school GM car when the power steering belt broke. You have to be Hercules to turn the damn thing. I'll be blowing up the dealer's phone first thing in the AM. I'll update as soon as I hear anything. Going to research it now. Chime in if you know anything. I would suspect it would be an AMG GT all variants type of thing anyways. I'm really bent about this. Especially what happened to the car two weeks after I got it. Another thing, I shut the door last week (normally) and heard a weird sound as I turned to walk away, I saw the frickin mirror glass popped out and was hanging by some wires. Luckily, the dealer is five minutes from my house. So I drove over with my hand out the window holding it in place. The shop foreman checked it and said the clips/attachments looked fine and popped back into place in the service drive and I tipped him $20. Now I'm paranoid, when I shut my door that I do it gently in fear of it may happen again. Rant over - Xanax time and off to sleep.
Good luck!
Rant over lol.
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Quick update. Dropped off at the Dealer just now. They are fantastic by the way. Took the car in, Shop Foreman came out (whom I know pretty well) we discussed and he took it back to get started on it. On the way over this morning, I also noticed A/C doesn't work - not blowing out cold. I also had to pull the e-brake release to go forward instead of it happening automatically when you give the car gas. Really weird. We'll see what it is.
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Breaking down sucks. I know. I had three different cars in the shop last week.
They may be diluting the brand, but when you buy the absolute lowest volume AMG there is, I would expect some quality issues. I've seen more Porsche GT3 RS' running around than AMG GTR's. Enjoy the exclusivity!
I bet the AMG 43's have fewer quality issues than the GT series.
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'd never expect a pain free experience from a $200k sports car, unless it was Japanese. I don't think brand dilution has much to do with this. Didn't the entirely AMG built SLS have a transmission that couldn't last 20k miles? The 2008 C63's shook their headbolts out by 75,000 miles. 911 GT3's catch fire. Boxster's and 911's have IMS issues. Even mass produced Corvette's break down just looking at anything but city traffic.
My GTs has seen quite a few warranty repairs, but its not like it is my daily driver or Mercedes isn't fixing it up. My bigger beef isn't with Mercedes, it is AAA. They've taken over three hours to pick me up twice now. I now have the number of a local tow company specializing in sports cars.
They may be diluting the brand, but when you buy the absolute lowest volume AMG there is, I would expect some quality issues. I've seen more Porsche GT3 RS' running around than AMG GTR's. Enjoy the exclusivity!
I bet the AMG 43's have fewer quality issues than the GT series.
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'd never expect a pain free experience from a $200k sports car, unless it was Japanese. I don't think brand dilution has much to do with this. Didn't the entirely AMG built SLS have a transmission that couldn't last 20k miles? The 2008 C63's shook their headbolts out by 75,000 miles. 911 GT3's catch fire. Boxster's and 911's have IMS issues. Even mass produced Corvette's break down just looking at anything but city traffic.
My GTs has seen quite a few warranty repairs, but its not like it is my daily driver or Mercedes isn't fixing it up. My bigger beef isn't with Mercedes, it is AAA. They've taken over three hours to pick me up twice now. I now have the number of a local tow company specializing in sports cars.
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Quick update. Dropped off at the Dealer just now. They are fantastic by the way. Took the car in, Shop Foreman came out (whom I know pretty well) we discussed and he took it back to get started on it. On the way over this morning, I also noticed A/C doesn't work - not blowing out cold. I also had to pull the e-brake release to go forward instead of it happening automatically when you give the car gas. Really weird. We'll see what it is.
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It's weird because the steering is hydraulic. But who knows. Hoping to hear something in the next couple hours at least.
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Verdict is in - this is crazy. Been a ton of road construction around where I live for the past several months. I drive real careful because if it. All the streets in my neighborhood were redone with "Slurry Seal". After this crap dries, it has little bits and pieces of pea gravel for months. I always hear it hitting the wheel wells and drive real slow over it. Apparently, once the tech dropped the front cover, cups of this crap poured out all over the shop floor. Evidently, some of it got slung up around the crankshaft and actually wedged into the pulley and caused the front/outermost belt to shred as you can see in the pics. I never heard any belt noise or slapping around. He said it was just kind of hanging there is why. So that explains no A/C and power steering because that's what it drives.They will overnight one from the east coast and if I'm lucky. I can have the car on Saturday. If not, it will be after Memorial Day Weekend. This damn construction already cost me $1,200 in replacing the rear tires from a screw. Guess I could take that invoice to the city for reimbursement. Haha - yeah right.
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Wow you've had a run of unfortunate luck with your whip. Like others say, hope it doesn't detract from your ownership experience. I've had a painfree experience in my first year of ownership and enjoy my daily driven GTS very much. I understand what you're saying about construction as I had 3 torque screws in my X3's rear runflat tire all at once with construction ongoing at my beach club. Fortunately, the construction is coming to a conclusion after almost 9 months.
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Sounds like a lot of drama over virtually nothing. Glad there is an easy solution and its not AMG going downhill as some keep on suggesting
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And people were so quick to blame Benz LOL--- but I can see why.
Im glad it was resolved fast and its really nothing to do with the car.
Im glad it was resolved fast and its really nothing to do with the car.
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That fully explains it. Don't worry, it could happen to anyone.
Theoretically the belt costs a few ten's of $, but unfortunately the work hours related to the M178 engine is higher than the usual belt change.
In order to take it out, you need to unscrew the twin pump assembly to pass through the new belt. Plus take off the 2 aluminum pipes off the block, and replace the leaked fluids at the end.
Excuse the big file, but you can clearly see the 2 hole fittings (right of the crankshaft pulley) and the pump mounting assembly, on the lower right of the engine.
Hope you get it back in time and enjoy the sunny weekend.
Theoretically the belt costs a few ten's of $, but unfortunately the work hours related to the M178 engine is higher than the usual belt change.
In order to take it out, you need to unscrew the twin pump assembly to pass through the new belt. Plus take off the 2 aluminum pipes off the block, and replace the leaked fluids at the end.
Excuse the big file, but you can clearly see the 2 hole fittings (right of the crankshaft pulley) and the pump mounting assembly, on the lower right of the engine.
Hope you get it back in time and enjoy the sunny weekend.
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Bro important !!! 2 things one, my car electronics shut off completely, traction control went off completely including most of the other electronic problems. Every sensor including my distronic was also turned off. Waited 5 minutes re-booted the car and everything went back to normal. Very weird indeed.
Secondly and most importantly i was washing my car, and noticed that a few rocks hit the inter cooler without going through. Also, when I bent down to clean the under part of the vents (front) i noticed an accumulation of road rocks inside underneath the inter cooler just sitting there and hard to clean.
Maybe thats related to your problem?
They should seriously consider recalling these vehicles and put some appropriate guard so that this does not happen.
Secondly and most importantly i was washing my car, and noticed that a few rocks hit the inter cooler without going through. Also, when I bent down to clean the under part of the vents (front) i noticed an accumulation of road rocks inside underneath the inter cooler just sitting there and hard to clean.
Maybe thats related to your problem?
They should seriously consider recalling these vehicles and put some appropriate guard so that this does not happen.
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Can the naysayers still blame brand dilution ????
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[QUOTE=Wolfman;7461012]Sounds like a lot of drama over virtually nothing. Glad there is an easy solution and its not AMG going downhill as some keep on suggesting
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I stayed away from AMGs for years, always enjoyed their power plants but their handling, steering feel, and slower transmissions left a lot to be desired. But with 2016 + gen cars they really have moved ahead of the crowd, leaped ahead actually. I don’t think they’ve diluted anything, on the contrary and IMHO they strengthened their brand more than anyone else has on a relative step up. Their latest cars are just exceptional, superb. And that E63s Wagon, oh my lord, it’s so good. Between the GTS and the wagon you scratch almost every itch (and keep a couple of three pedal classics around too) ...
In my book AMG has re-invented themselves in ways very few companies ever have. They deserve all the business they can get (can’t speak to the dealer network etc as I have no experience with that, I’m talking strictly product here)
In my book AMG has re-invented themselves in ways very few companies ever have. They deserve all the business they can get (can’t speak to the dealer network etc as I have no experience with that, I’m talking strictly product here)
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