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For the rocks, I don't know what to do, it just might be something we have to live with, it's bad though.
XPEL actually did use my car to make the template for all your Black Series, you're all welcome
I did do the entire car, they said most complicated front end ever. I've never heard of EXOSHIELD, looking now.
Soulsea and I will thank you when you locate our missing in action BS.
My experience has been with XPEL PRO so yes I am happy your BS was the “Test Mule”
Did they dismntle any of the BS to wrap the edges or do wrap and tuck?
EXOSHIELD - This is GREAT STUFF. usually costs about $400 - $500 for the windshield but well worth it. The installer is the key to success.
As far as the rocks go, I would say you’re pretty much out of luck. My recommendation would be full ppf with an additional edge guard behind the wheels for where it will really get pummeled. The area behind the front wheel is really a no hoper because it’s such a tight chute.
The alternative is to literally block it off. If you are never tracking your car or doing very high speed driving, you could template out just about any material and put it on the front side of the chute behind the wheel and you’d realistically never know the difference. If you’re just driving around town that isn’t gonna make any difference.
Soulsea told me he has a great installer up his way who may do both products so I am thinking your XPEL guy may also do EXOSHIELD or know who does.
I can’t imagine in this environment how difficult it would be to get a replacement windshield.
ROCKS - I wonder what Mercedes/AMG or Opus can offer in the way of advice.
Jerry
They did not dismantle the car, I even asked not to have the badges removed, they cut around. It literally took a month, they said it was a pain to do, it did come out great.
I reached out to a local guy here from Exoshield website, he said 350, i just have to trailer the car there cause it's on the other side of town. I didn't even think about the replacement, even though I can't get a passenger side window for the S63 Coupe
Maybe a mesh netting to deflect the rocks, but that might mess with the flow?
They did not dismantle the car, I even asked not to have the badges removed, they cut around. It literally took a month, they said it was a pain to do, it did come out great.
I reached out to a local guy here from Exoshield website, he said 350, i just have to trailer the car there cause it's on the other side of town. I didn't even think about the replacement, even though I can't get a passenger side window for the S63 Coupe
Maybe a mesh netting to deflect the rocks, but that might mess with the flow?
The rock thing and getting to a workable solution calls for a series of meetings ….in a garage preferrably with a keg….aka California John’s house since his garage is already fully equipped. .
I wish I could look at/study a BS close up (read mine) to see if some ideas popped up. In what locations are you collecting rocks?
I am also very close to the Brumos Race museum where many race cars are on display and the techs there are familiar with similiar issues.
It’s interesting that no other BS owners have weighed in. I am assuming you aren’t the only one actually driving your BS.
EXOSHIELD - Please remember our windshields are not glass. So I am wondering if there would be any issues with the install and use over time.
Also, EXOSHIELD has an option to buy glass replacement insurance in case the Exoshield can’t protect the damage incident .
Jerry
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The rock thing and getting to a workable solution calls for a series of meetings ….in a garage preferrably with a keg….aka California John’s house since his garage is already fully equipped. .
I wish I could look at/study a BS close up (read mine) to see if some ideas popped up. In what locations are you collecting rocks?
I am also very close to the Brumos Race museum where many race cars are on display and the techs there are familiar with similiar issues.
It’s interesting that no other BS owners have weighed in. I am assuming you aren’t the only one actually driving your BS.
EXOSHIELD - Please remember our windshields are not glass. So I am wondering if there would be any issues with the install and use over time.
Also, EXOSHIELD has an option to buy glass replacement in case the Exoshield can’t protect the damage incident .
Jerry
I am the lone Black Series in the wild that is driven.
The highlighted areas are full of rocks, if I get time I'll take pics of mine.
I am the lone Black Series in the wild that is driven.
The highlighted areas are full of rocks, if I get time I'll take pics of mine.
The pictures help a lot.
Also, I saw a picture up thread that showed the hood up with leaves and some other material sitting on top of the large vent screen in front of the motor.
Also, I saw a picture up thread that showed the hood up with leaves and some other material sitting on top of the large vent screen in front of the motor.
We’ve got some thinking to do….
OR.......Just use it on the track like it was built for, problem solved.
Soulsea told me he has a great installer up his way who may do both products so I am thinking your XPEL guy may also do EXOSHIELD or know who does.
I can’t imagine in this environment how difficult it would be to get a replacement windshield.
ROCKS - I wonder what Mercedes/AMG or Opus can offer in the way of advice.
Jerry
I have replaced 4 windshields on my '19 wagon. On the last one I had exoshield applied and not a single chip on it yet. I cannot say enough about how good this is for glass!
The advertised pricing on these cars is remarkable. The cars at list price are vapor, and one dealer told me flat out that the ADM was 650. It may have been a little rude for me to laugh before thanking him, but it was my honest response. Don't get me wrong, there's a limited number available, but at some point people are going to migrate to other marques.
The Michelin Sport Cup 2 R’s aren’t the best in the wet ...
Yeah, I did a track day in my C63 S on a similarly wet (and cool) day and the data showed that after 0.6G lateral, the car was sliding (both front/rear). I also have data from that same C63 S doing autocross runs on Pilot Sport 4S tires in similarly wet conditions and that showed 0.9G lateral before the car was sliding (both front/rear). Though I've not yet driven the GTR on wet roads/track, it's not something that I look forward to.
When you indicate that the traction control worked, were you referring to (the mostly reactive) slippery mode, normal mode, sport mode, or the (more predictive) 9-stage mode ... and, if the 9-stage mode, what setting was being used (you know, so I'll know where to start when I do hit my first wet track day)? #;-)
I'd be extremely worried about aquaplaning on a wet track with the 'Rs' tbh, to the point that I wouldn't run the car. Testicular shrinkage probably setting in as I get old!!! lol
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Originally Posted by user33
Yeah, I did a track day in my C63 S on a similarly wet (and cool) day and the data showed that after 0.6G lateral, the car was sliding (both front/rear). I also have data from that same C63 S doing autocross runs on Pilot Sport 4S tires in similarly wet conditions and that showed 0.9G lateral before the car was sliding (both front/rear). Though I've not yet driven the GTR on wet roads/track, it's not something that I look forward to.
When you indicate that the traction control worked, were you referring to (the mostly reactive) slippery mode, normal mode, sport mode, or the (more predictive) 9-stage mode ... and, if the 9-stage mode, what setting was being used (you know, so I'll know where to start when I do hit my first wet track day)? #;-)
i was running in race mode using the 9 stage manual traction control knob on the dash. FYI the dash and the LED’s around the traction knob flash white when the TC is activated and working.
When it was raining on track with a lot of standing water I was setting TC to max (9 - full clockwise). With this setting you could see and feel the TC working at each corner in the wet, even with max TC on the cup 2 R’s it was a handful keeping it straight on corner exit.
Over a couple of sessions I progressively wound back the TC setting but it was also great to be able to adjust the TC during a lap when moving from a wet section of the track to a dry section as the track dried out.
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I am the lone Black Series in the wild that is driven. 
