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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 01:38 AM
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Thoughts on this used 2016 GTS (Coming from a 991.1 C2S)

Hey everyone, I am seeing this car tomorrow and would love any insight on the specs on this car and if this is a good deal for 78k. I know people on here have swayed away from 2016s for potential issues since its a first year model but this model seems pretty clean. I am coming from Porsche world and am not familiar with the nuances of GTS options / features and what are the must have options. Thanks in advance!

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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 06:49 AM
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2016s don't really have any significant extra issues; the only one is the driveshaft TSB/recall, but that would be covered by MB.

I've had mine for a year now and many miles with no substantive issues. Mine is similarly optioned to the one linked but in designo white metallic; I looked long and hard for the right optioned car with the saddle tan interior as it really stands out.

I would be more concerned about the flood of sketchy condition lease returns that clearly were not treated all that well under lease. There are plenty of very good ones, but also plenty of really bad shape cars out there.
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 07:29 PM
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Price is GREAT.

2016’s have NOTHING you need to worry about. Some have a driveshaft recall which is a free fix, that’s it.

Mileage is good for a ‘16, only 4K a year.

If you can live with a brown interior...Scoop it up!
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 09:21 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rohan V
Hey everyone, I am seeing this car tomorrow and would love any insight on the specs on this car and if this is a good deal for 78k. I know people on here have swayed away from 2016s for potential issues since its a first year model but this model seems pretty clean. I am coming from Porsche world and am not familiar with the nuances of GTS options / features and what are the must have options. Thanks in advance!

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=262763273
Hey, I just picked up my 2017 GT S (MSRP 159k) with 6k miles driven for $86k (dynamic plus package, ccb, aerodynamic package, Carbon fiber crossbar, Carbon fiber interior trim, The price is definitely decent for the mileage it has driven. The condition of the interior is very good. High-end speaker is makes a big difference compare to the standard one. The only thing it’s missing is the dynamic plus package which is considered as a very popular option on the GT S. The matte finish paint was a 4k option and you will fell in love with it. Btw, those seats looking so dope!
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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You are going to find the gts has much power compared to Porsches. But the handling is no where near as good as the 911. You will feel much understeer and a lite front end feel. My 991 911 gt3 handles so much better even though both cars have new Michelin sport cup 2 tires with forgeline rims.if only I could put the Mercedes 8cyl twin turbo in the Porsche.

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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 11:22 PM
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You are going to find the gts has much power compared to Porsches. But the handling is no where near as good as the 911. You will feel much understeer and a lite front end feel. My 991 911 gt3 handles so much better even though both cars have new Michelin sport cup 2 tires with forgeline rims.if only I could put the Mercedes 8cyl twin turbo in the Porsche.
Interesting, as basically every review of the GT-S lauds it for its balance and mid-corner composure- literally zero mention of understeer from some very talented drivers, eg Randy Pobst:


I've yet to take mine to the track (owned it 4 days) but hoping your statement is inaccurate. Wonder if there's some issue with the setup of your particular car?
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 08:34 AM
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Hello all , no my car is set up perfectly, I just run a lower front tire pressure 30 at the most. After the free amg academy i noticed it. The gtr was fantastic to drive at lime rock park
Don't get me wrong gts handles great just not as well as a 911 or as my old corvette c7 z06 with z07 package.
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Hello all , no my car is set up perfectly, I just run a lower front tire pressure 30 at the most. After the free amg academy i noticed it. The gtr was fantastic to drive at lime rock park
Don't get me wrong gts handles great just not as well as a 911 or as my old corvette c7 z06 with z07 package.
911’s are renowned for excellent steering and the Z07 C7 ‘Vette is also a great, neutral handling car as long as the alignment is set up well.

When I first drove my GTR on track with the OEM tyres I felt like it didn’t quite have the front end grip as my recently departed C7 Z06/7, but that was remedied when I placed my left over Z06/7 MPSC2 ZP tyres on the car which is the ROW option tyre for the GTR. Made a big difference.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Oh yeah , the tires are the important part of car. I always use Michelin sc2 on all my cars, best tires, wear fast but best grip.
in the cold winter months up here in buffalo NY the car goes up on blocks and the tires inside to keep from below zero temps.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:41 AM
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Oh yeah , the tires are the important part of car. I always use Michelin sc2 on all my cars, best tires, wear fast but best grip.
in the cold winter months up here in buffalo NY the car goes up on blocks and the tires inside to keep from below zero temps.
What are the benefits of doing that?
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Originally Posted by Tinknocker
You are going to find the gts has much power compared to Porsches. But the handling is no where near as good as the 911. You will feel much understeer and a lite front end feel. My 991 911 gt3 handles so much better even though both cars have new Michelin sport cup 2 tires with forgeline rims.if only I could put the Mercedes 8cyl twin turbo in the Porsche.

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Uh the e63s wagon handles as good as a 991 Turbo S which handles better than a GT3 and the GTS on KW springs handles better than both but ya gotta drive them hard to know..

PS: Is that GTS setup for off roading ? Maybe that's your handling problem..


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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 02:15 PM
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Off roading, haha.just got car last year, forgelines first then springs next.
Btw this is the off-road I use for drift days 1997bmw 318ti

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Off roading, haha.just got car last year, forgelines first then springs next.
Btw this is the off-road I use for drift days 1997bmw 318ti

Wow I am not impressed...
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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That's ok I'm a car enthusiast day in and day out , I'm used to the hate..
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That's ok I'm a car enthusiast day in and day out , I'm used to the hate..
Hate what an old beat 318 BMW ?

Seriously if that's your "off road setup" ya gotta aim much higher..



















But let's get back to the GTS setup and its potential be be an amazing supercar with just a little suspension setup and a tune..






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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 04:02 PM
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It's mine though not a picture off the web ,
back on track now yes the gts is the best car I enjoy mine , enjoy yours.
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It's mine though not a picture off the web ,
back on track now yes the gts is the best car I enjoy mine , enjoy yours.
These were all mine and if you've seen them on the web cool..
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Hey everyone, I am seeing this car tomorrow and would love any insight on the specs on this car and if this is a good deal for 78k. I know people on here have swayed away from 2016s for potential issues since its a first year model but this model seems pretty clean. I am coming from Porsche world and am not familiar with the nuances of GTS options / features and what are the must have options. Thanks in advance!

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If that one doesnt work out, let me know. Have a 2016 up for sale in the market place at the moment. CPO through March of '21, 24k miles.
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I also have a 991.1 C2S and have been looking at a GT S to purchase sometime in the near future. I'm also about 20 minutes away from this car (for another 10 days or so).

How did it go?
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Get the GTS slap on a tune and proper springs and you will have an equal to the new GTR.
Money left over for all the carbon wings your heart desires..

PS: If I thought the GTR were a better car I would own a GTR but I don't and now you know why..
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Get the GTS slap on a tune and proper springs and you will have an equal to the new GTR.
Money left over for all the carbon wings your heart desires..

PS: If I thought the GTR were a better car I would own a GTR but I don't and now you know why..
Because you are stubborn and possibly a little ignorant or a troll?

Any or all of the above?
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Because you are stubborn and possibly a little ignorant or a troll?

Any or all of the above?
Yeah I am stubborn and I know what I am talking about..50 years of automotive performance experience.

I bought this car back in 1989 and made it the most powerful Group B car from Ford Motorsports UK..










The car chassis #106 sold again two years ago for $585k
So suck off trolls...

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Originally Posted by Tinknocker
You are going to find the gts has much power compared to Porsches. But the handling is no where near as good as the 911. You will feel much understeer and a lite front end feel. My 991 911 gt3 handles so much better even though both cars have new Michelin sport cup 2 tires with forgeline rims.if only I could put the Mercedes 8cyl twin turbo in the Porsche.

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Most reviewers don’t agree with you. The GT and 911.1/.2 are basically tied performance wise. The 911 is better in some areas, but the GT is better in others (E.g., power, steering, weight distribution). The GTR is faster than your GT3 around the ‘Ring. A good comparison was done by YouTuber Schmee 150. There’s a reason he sold his PTS GT3 and kept his GTR

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