WTB: Used RaceChip for GTR
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WTB: Used RaceChip for GTR
If you have a RaceChip for a GTR that you're wanting to get rid of, PM me:
- must have the Bluetooth option
- must be the type that plugs into the ECU (I think that's the only one they made for the GTRs)
- does not have to be the latest version that was recently released
- must have the Bluetooth option
- must be the type that plugs into the ECU (I think that's the only one they made for the GTRs)
- does not have to be the latest version that was recently released
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OK, full disclosure ... I'm a happy BenzNinja customer -- BUT I'm going to disagree with you on this one, Peter.
There are many things you could have said that I would agree with, such as:
- not the way to get the most power increase
- not the easiest to install (an OBD-based tune is slightly easier)
- probably not a good choice if you're combining with other "stage 2 type" modifications
HOWEVER, having run RaceChips in multiple AMGs over a period of 6+ years, my experience says they provide a good performance gain versus cost and convenience ratio while meeting various other requirements. My performance evaluation isn't just from the "butt dyno" but is back(sided?) up with some basic real-world data and says that the RaceChip performance-gain claims are about as accurate as the reputable tuner's performance claims.
You always need to consider what a person is trying to achieve and their requirements when evaluating "value." For me, I prefer:
- a modest performance gain (the "low-hanging fruit")
- something that's easy to install (and won't leave "mod traces" once removed)
- something that doesn't occupy the OBD port because I need that for track-day data capture
- something that can be enabled/disabled (and somewhat configured) easily in real time (e.g., via a phone app)
I also like the idea that a piggyback (essentially turbo-boost) enhancer leaves in place all the normal ECU protections for fuel mix, anti-knock, timing advance, torque limiting, etc. ... i.e., I don't need to worry that a tuner has done something bad/irresponsible in terms of removing important protections. In addition, even with RaceChip's more elevated current pricing, compared to the cost of ECU "tunes" these days (when did they double in price, anyway!), I figure RaceChip is also a pretty good "bang for the buck."
So yes, a competent tuner can likely easily outdo a RaceChip in terms of performance boost and can provide customer-specific torque/HP curves to best meet the customer's projected usage/goals (especially when in combination with other modifications) ... but that's not always what someone is after.
There are many things you could have said that I would agree with, such as:
- not the way to get the most power increase
- not the easiest to install (an OBD-based tune is slightly easier)
- probably not a good choice if you're combining with other "stage 2 type" modifications
HOWEVER, having run RaceChips in multiple AMGs over a period of 6+ years, my experience says they provide a good performance gain versus cost and convenience ratio while meeting various other requirements. My performance evaluation isn't just from the "butt dyno" but is back(sided?) up with some basic real-world data and says that the RaceChip performance-gain claims are about as accurate as the reputable tuner's performance claims.
You always need to consider what a person is trying to achieve and their requirements when evaluating "value." For me, I prefer:
- a modest performance gain (the "low-hanging fruit")
- something that's easy to install (and won't leave "mod traces" once removed)
- something that doesn't occupy the OBD port because I need that for track-day data capture
- something that can be enabled/disabled (and somewhat configured) easily in real time (e.g., via a phone app)
I also like the idea that a piggyback (essentially turbo-boost) enhancer leaves in place all the normal ECU protections for fuel mix, anti-knock, timing advance, torque limiting, etc. ... i.e., I don't need to worry that a tuner has done something bad/irresponsible in terms of removing important protections. In addition, even with RaceChip's more elevated current pricing, compared to the cost of ECU "tunes" these days (when did they double in price, anyway!), I figure RaceChip is also a pretty good "bang for the buck."
So yes, a competent tuner can likely easily outdo a RaceChip in terms of performance boost and can provide customer-specific torque/HP curves to best meet the customer's projected usage/goals (especially when in combination with other modifications) ... but that's not always what someone is after.
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