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Old Aug 7, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Battery Replacement / lithium or AGM?

Where can i find after market Lithium battery for AMG GTS 2016? Or can i put AGM on it? Cause i had a old AGM and i tried a new AGM and i have the same code again. Code : Stop car, see owner manual.
Some people say AGM is fine other says its not? There is 1 wire not plugged with my current AGM one. dealer says it goes on the oem lithium battery
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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Hey Kesmarc, you can have the error that the AGM battery is giving you coded out if you choose not to go with OEM lithium. My 2016 GTS came with AGM that the previous owner had coded, so no error/CEL. I believe even if you install another brand of lithium battery, you’ll still get the error as they won’t have that separate plug for the wire that oem has.

I believe the dealer can code your car not to look for the oem battery and if not, Benz Ninja can help.
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 02:56 PM
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Hey Kesmarc, you can have the error that the AGM battery is giving you coded out if you choose not to go with OEM lithium. My 2016 GTS came with AGM that the previous owner had coded, so no error/CEL. I believe even if you install another brand of lithium battery, you’ll still get the error as they won’t have that separate plug for the wire that oem has.

I believe the dealer can code your car not to look for the oem battery and if not, Benz Ninja can help.
ok thanks, i pmed Benz ninja and nonawnser yet. Do you have more infos i can give to my dealer so they remove the code?
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Going from lithium to AGM is perhaps a less problematic move as AGM batteries aren't so picky about how they are being charged and don't have a propensity to spontaneously combust if they are being charged the wrong way. However, keep in mind that the different battery types have very different charging and voltage profiles. Lithium batteries as probably everybody knows by now don't like to be fully charged, but if you do then charging them from 80 to 100% has to be done much slower. So the charger in your car is programmed to charge a lithium battery and keep it healthy. If you replace it with an AGM battery, the car will continue to charge it like a lithium battery. It shouldn't hurt the AGM battery as opposed the other way around, but it won't charge it fully for example and instead keeps it at a partial charge. Lithium batteries tend to have extra buffer capacity, so that partially charging them still gives you enough capacity. AGM batteries don't have that, because they are ok with being fully charged. It's not for nothing that car battery maintainers have separate modes for Lead Acid, AGM and Lithium batteries.

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Going from lithium to AGM is perhaps a less problematic move as AGM batteries aren't so picky about how they are being charged and don't have a propensity to spontaneously combust if they are being charged the wrong way. However, keep in mind that the different battery types have very different charging and voltage profiles. Lithium batteries as probably everybody knows by now don't like to be fully charged, but if you do then charging them from 80 to 100% has to be done much slower. So the charger in your car is programmed to charge a lithium battery and keep it healthy. If you replace it with an AGM battery, the car will continue to charge it like a lithium battery. It shouldn't hurt the AGM battery as opposed the other way around, but it won't charge it fully for example and instead keeps it at a partial charge. Lithium batteries tend to have extra buffer capacity, so that partially charging them still gives you enough capacity. AGM batteries don't have that, because they are ok with being fully charged. It's not for nothing that car battery maintainers have separate modes for Lead Acid, AGM and Lithium batteries.
This is very informative. So is it bad to leave my car on trickle all the time? I only use the oem provided charger.
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This is very informative. So is it bad to leave my car on trickle all the time? I only use the oem provided charger.
As long as you use the OEM provided charger you'll be fine. That charger is specifically for lithium batteries. It will maintain the lithium battery at a healthy charge level.
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As long as you use the OEM provided charger you'll be fine. That charger is specifically for lithium batteries. It will maintain the lithium battery at a healthy charge level.
Perfect! Thank you!
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ok thanks, i pmed Benz ninja and nonawnser yet. Do you have more infos i can give to my dealer so they remove the code?
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we where on reduced work times august 1-8th
we can code these cars 100% fine

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