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Old 07-18-2007, 01:27 AM
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I have a great love for the environment and my own personal health, but I think that what we may be losing sight of is the VERY misguided steps being taken in the US, especially Ca, towards reducing pollution.

The E320 Bluetec is the 2007 World Green Car, and even aside from that it is an extremely clean and efficient car. Much more so than almost every car being sold in California today. The Hybrid producing companies, mainly Toyota, have spent unimaginable amounts of money on lobbyists to persuade Arnie. I cannot understand why MB still has his S600 in the museum, he is perhaps their single worst enemy.
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It seems there are many bad tempered woody nuts and not enough good people posting these days.
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So what kind of medication is it that you're on? Or did you just stop it?

Perindopril, Allopurinol, Colchicine & Sildenafil PRN.

Why, so that my daughter can grow up athsmatic and develop lung damage? No thanks. Your environmental perspective is so moronic, it makes me want to puke. If you think breathing diesel fumes is such a great goddamn thing, try this: go out into your garage, turn the thing on, and leave it on.

You only have one female offspring to puke on? I would not advocate suicide to anyone. I am pro-life.

So if you hate Canada so much, why don't you emigrate to China where there is no environmental regulation? There, you can breathe unregulated, unfiltered, polluted air, drink polluted untreated water, and die a happy idiot from cancer. Idealogues.....always doing your damndest to screw up this world.

I like Mao Say Dung even less than Canada. I would like to drive dirty cars there though. Do not worry. I am not the one to "screw up this world". There are billions of Chinese and Indians doing it right this minute while you are saving the world. Please dismount from your high horse.

You are a joke, and a bad one at that. Please: take my advice on the car/garage thing, or at least stfu about matters of which you know nothing and comprehend less.
I know a whole lot about this world. We are posting to exchange ideas, have some fun & there is no need for name calling or getting personal. Right?
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Originally Posted by harkgar
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It seems there are many bad tempered woody nuts and not enough good people posting these days.
It seems as though there is one too many nutjobs in this forum who has consistantly argued that pollution is a good thing.

You're such a pathetic dweeb that you don't even have the courage of your convictions to defend your lunatic fringe ideology. You argue that any and all government regulation is bad, but won't answer simple, valid questions about the consequences of no government regulation, even in cases where a valid public health issue can be clearly demonstrated. Instead, blinded by your ideology, you simply take cheap potshots at science, and any and all government regulation, even when the science clearly shows that a lack of such regulation would clearly endanger the health of the public.

Just yesterday in Brazil, we saw the tragic results of what happens when government does *not* intervene in matters of public safety: pilots had been warning for years of the inherent danger of that runway but the government had taken no action to lengthen it; further, after recent resurfacing the airport, uninhindered by pesky safety inspectors, rushed to open the runway prematurely without properly finishing with the grooves needed for proper water drainage.

Result: a plane landed on the too-short, improperly-finished runway in a driving rainstorm, skidded off the runway, and nearly two hundred people are now dead.

Now, a pragmatist would look at the situation preceeding this tragedy and say that a larger public interest would have been served here by government intervention, and (gasp) action to lengthen the runway to make it safer to land there, to delay the opening until the runway had been properly grooved to drain water off during rainstorms.

An idealogue, on the other hand, viewing each and every situation in
black-and-white terms and thus unequipped with any sense of pragmatism and unencumbered by reality, would instead have looked at the situation and said that government has no business intervening, even when there is a clear unequivocal health hazard, that government intervention is always bad, that government regulation of private industry is always wrong.

Sadly, we now see the results of this type of unrealistic, myopic thinking today: nearly two hundred charred bodies. And if you had your way, there would be more bodies piling up, from the air and water pollution which would immediately result if pollution control regulation was abandoned.

Your philosophy is nothing more than reckless, worthless claptrap that totally disregards the need for government to intervene when the health and well being of its citizens are endangered.

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Originally Posted by Improviz
It seems as though there is one too many nutjobs in this forum who has consistantly argued that pollution is a good thing.

You're such a pathetic dweeb that you don't even have the courage of your convictions to defend your lunatic fringe ideology. You argue that any and all government regulation is bad, but won't answer simple, valid questions about the consequences of no government regulation, even in cases where a valid public health issue can be clearly demonstrated. Instead, blinded by your ideology, you simply take cheap potshots at science, and any and all government regulation, even when the science clearly shows that a lack of such regulation would clearly endanger the health of the public.

Just yesterday in Brazil, we saw the tragic results of what happens when government does *not* intervene in matters of public safety: pilots had been warning for years of the inherent danger of that runway but the government had taken no action to lengthen it; further, after recent resurfacing the airport, uninhindered by pesky safety inspectors, rushed to open the runway prematurely without properly finishing with the grooves needed for proper water drainage.

Result: a plane landed on the too-short, improperly-finished runway in a driving rainstorm, skidded off the runway, and nearly two hundred people are now dead.

Now, a pragmatist would look at the situation preceeding this tragedy and say that a larger public interest would have been served here by government intervention, and (gasp) action to lengthen the runway to make it safer to land there, to delay the opening until the runway had been properly grooved to drain water off during rainstorms.

An idealogue, on the other hand, viewing each and every situation in
black-and-white terms and thus unequipped with any sense of pragmatism and unencumbered by reality, would instead have looked at the situation and said that government has no business intervening, even when there is a clear unequivocal health hazard, that government intervention is always bad, that government regulation of private industry is always wrong.

Sadly, we now see the results of this type of unrealistic, myopic thinking today: nearly two hundred charred bodies. And if you had your way, there would be more bodies piling up, from the air and water pollution which would immediately result if pollution control regulation was abandoned.

Your philosophy is nothing more than reckless, worthless claptrap that totally disregards the need for government to intervene when the health and well being of its citizens are endangered.
Mr Improviz:

Lighten up. You may live to my age someday.
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On a side note: Improviz, the bouncing boobies were cool for a while. Now it's old, takes up alot of space and is annoying.
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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T
On a side note: Improviz, the bouncing boobies were cool for a while. Now it's old, takes up alot of space and is annoying.
What, do you use a 286-powered PC to go along with your 240D?

Seriously, if you get tired of bouncing boobies, I can't help you. However, you can try clicking here:
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What, do you use a 286-powered PC to go along with your 240D?
It's actually an 8mhz Mac Classic.
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Let's please stick to the merits of the topic and lose the personal insults. Thanks.
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I just read an interesting article about a company in New England that sells $1000 conversion kits for waste oil. According to the demo car results, they experience no loss in mileage, no additional noise, dripping exhaust, smoke, etc that has been mentioned here. The system starts the engine on regular diesel, then switches over when warmed up, so it could run 100% on diesel should the owner get tired of gathering and filtering waste oil.
I'm interested in learning more about the engine damage waste oil causes.
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Let's please stick to the merits of the topic and lose the personal insults. Thanks.
MB-Bob,

I agree. No below waist blows.

We can disagree without losing our temper.
Old 07-19-2007, 12:22 PM
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On a side note: Improviz, the bouncing boobies were cool for a while. Now it's old, takes up alot of space and is annoying.
240 DT:

Can you post some of your photos you posted as "Forced Induction"? The super turbo and engine bay would be very interesting.
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Originally Posted by RBrenton
I just read an interesting article about a company in New England that sells $1000 conversion kits for waste oil. According to the demo car results, they experience no loss in mileage, no additional noise, dripping exhaust, smoke, etc that has been mentioned here. The system starts the engine on regular diesel, then switches over when warmed up, so it could run 100% on diesel should the owner get tired of gathering and filtering waste oil.
I'm interested in learning more about the engine damage waste oil causes.
The problem with WVO is not the engine operating temperature, so warming your car up before using it will not solve the problem. SVO or WVO does not produce hot enough combustion temperatures to ensure proper running of an engine designed for diesel fuel. This is not to say the car will not run, it will at least in the short run, although fuel economy and power will decrease. In the long run though, problems due to carbon buildup and coking injector nozzles and prechambers will be unavoidable.

SVO and WVO have much lower combustion temperatures than diesel or bio diesel since the longer chain hydrocarbons have not been removed (as glycerin). The longer chain hydrocarbons do not combust as easily (or at all). If you are set on running on renewable fuel, I would advise you buy biodiesel or set up a mini-refinery in your garage (this is not too hard) to make your own bio-diesel out of WVO.
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I remember the diesel forum being a happy place full black smoke 30mpg (maybe lol) and superturbos, what happened? We need some finns in here to lighten the mood. On a side note hargar and 240 DT, what do you guys think about frybird systems? Mix well with those super turbo cars?
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On a side note hargar and 240 DT, what do you guys think about frybird systems? Mix well with those super turbo cars?
I don't like any biofuel conversions. If you like biofuels you should use production B2-B100, it's made from the beginning to be used in an engine as fuel.
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I don't like any biofuel conversions. If you like biofuels you should use production B2-B100, it's made from the beginning to be used in an engine as fuel.
I used to do a home brew like Heinekin some years ago in a you-brew place. Then the provincial (state) government, a communist (the cancerous form of a socialist) called Bob Rae slapped on a 25 cents a liter tax so I stopped brewing. I am sure if bio-diesel works like a charm the government would think of ways to tax spent cooking oil.

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