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Old May 8, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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om642 is chain is stretched, photo of chain tensioner

How to check if chain is stretched, only by tensioner? I'm not seeing oil hole on the tensioner(attached photo)
What's the symptoms of stretched chain?
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Old May 9, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Plutoe
Do us a huge favor---what do you think is the function of the "chain" and what do you think is the function of the "chain tensioner"??
I think, you are not so stupid, so you can understand what I mean. It's a forum, everyone can ask for help/information. If you search in forum, you will find more posts with same terms.

If i'm talking about enigne, timing chain, tensioner... and after all I'm posted photo, i think it's clear what I'm talking about.

If you have any idea, and want to help, please... else, don't spam.
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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If you see the piston portion (shiny) of the chain tensioner it means your chain is stretched and the chain tensioner went past it's stop. The stops are 4 small notches on the body and prevent the piston from extending too far out. After the chain stretches past certain length the piston pushes past the notches and you see the shiny portion of the piston. That is why if you just put in a new tensioner the noise becomes more pronounced. You need to change the chain and tensioner.
I just did my chain and tensioner. 2012 R350 with 90K miles...
Hope this helps... good luck
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Renato66
If you see the piston portion (shiny) of the chain tensioner it means your chain is stretched and the chain tensioner went past it's stop. The stops are 4 small notches on the body and prevent the piston from extending too far out. After the chain stretches past certain length the piston pushes past the notches and you see the shiny portion of the piston. That is why if you just put in a new tensioner the noise becomes more pronounced. You need to change the chain and tensioner.
In the photo attached by the O.P., is the shiny band just above the threads on the piston what you are referring to? If so, I guess I need to change my chain & tensioner, even though I have yet to hear the telltale rattle at cold start. Because mine looks just like the the photo he posted. FWIW I am at 71k miles on a 2010 GL350.
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 06:37 PM
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Yes, if your chain tensioner looks like mine (photo attached) it is stretched. If you don't hear knocking during cold start it will come soon.
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Great photo! And from that it looks like I have some life left in mine. But I will keep an eye on it, and windows open at cold start to listen for the rattle
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 08:08 AM
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Doing my tensioner today. Curious to see how my tensioner looks when I take it out.

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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 05:37 PM
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Do you have photo of your tensioner? Did you noticed any difference after you replaced the tensioner?

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Doing my tensioner today. Curious to see how my tensioner looks when I take it out.

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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:10 PM
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Do you have photo of your tensioner? Did you noticed any difference after you replaced the tensioner?
Just replaced it this past weekend and finished the job today. Here's a picture of the old one.




I'll let you know over the next couple of days if it fixed the issue.

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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:26 PM
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Thanks Richard, keep us posted.
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And just to confirm my situation, after a cold start rattle and almost impossible to start issue I replaced the camshaft adjusters and that got things running again almost perfect. So my camshaft adjusters were bad. But I still sometimes had a minor cold start rattle issue and sometimes a P0016 code. So now to fix that I'm replacing the timing chain tensioner.

If that fails then eventually I'll replace the timing chain.

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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 03:54 AM
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Did you just remove oil cap to see this? I checked mine, but it looks like a splash shield blocks you from seeing anything...
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 05:52 AM
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Did you just remove oil cap to see this? I checked mine, but it looks like a splash shield blocks you from seeing anything...
I already replaced the camshaft adjusters. But still had a minor rattle at cold startup. Because my timing chain was still very taught I decided to replace the tensioner. My thought was that it wasn't holding oil after shutdown so it had gone bad. I never actually visually inspected the tensioner before I replaced it.

Not sure you can see the tensioner at all until you remove it from the car... if that's what you were asking.

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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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In the very first post, there is a photo of chain and tensioner through some access hole.. My question is what is this access hole? I first thought you see this by removing oil cap, but it is not...
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Originally Posted by 00Coupe
In the very first post, there is a photo of chain and tensioner through some access hole.. My question is what is this access hole? I first thought you see this by removing oil cap, but it is not...
Right. I definitely couldn't see the tensioner on my engine that way. I have an M271 engine in a 2012 C250 though.

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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 09:00 AM
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It is oil filler hole. That applies only OM642, and there only earlier versions
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Plutoe
Do us a huge favor---what do you think is the function of the "chain" and what do you think is the function of the "chain tensioner"??
You mean the tensioner never fail ?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercedesa.Net
I think, you are not so stupid, so you can understand what I mean. It's a forum, everyone can ask for help/information. If you search in forum, you will find more posts with same terms.

If i'm talking about enigne, timing chain, tensioner... and after all I'm posted photo, i think it's clear what I'm talking about.

If you have any idea, and want to help, please... else, don't spam.
you are right on ! , I suspect my tensioner , on my Sprinter , and not all the half of the engine ! Why Mercedes manual says chain is good for the engine life ?
But ,the tensioner never fail ? well. could be anything , right ?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 09:31 PM
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You mean the tensioner never fail ?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 09:35 PM
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you saying on 90.000 you should changed timing chain on MERCEDES BENZ ?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 09:48 PM
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This is not OM 642 right ? wha it is ?
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 07:49 PM
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I Replaced the one on the Right with the one on the left .

Fixed the starting noise and actually a lot of other chatter 5000 miles later still fine 2006 CDI 3.2 .... 200,000 miles total
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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You mean you replaced the one on the left with the one on the right. The one on the left is fully extended....
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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No, I do not mean that . The one on the Right has 200,000 miles on it and is collapsed which happens in CDI's and Sprinter Vans .

The one on the left is brand new . These actually do not lock and remain fully extended UNTIL oil pressure is reached . Thus the slack fix when cold starting .

I have 5,000 miles on it and it has fixed a whirling noise at the front of the engine and I no Longer have the strange noises when I start the Engine .

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