MB bluetec lawsuit in Canada
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MB bluetec lawsuit in Canada
Hey everyone,
It looks like the lawsuit for Canada has arrived. I just received an email regarding the lawsuit. I know there is a similar thread for the US, but I think a seperate one for Canada makes sense since it won't be exactly the same.
https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/
The compensation amount seems to be 2925$ if no previous owner makes a claim. 2090$ if a previous owner does make a claim. You'll get the compensation if you go ahead with the AEM.If you don't want to go ahead with the AEM, you'll get between 600$-1700$.
I wonder if the AEM warranty will be the same as in the US. The website doesn't mention which parts are covered and for how long/km the warranty will last. Maybe someone has a list?
Edit 1: Found some information regarding the length of the warranty and parts (copy pasted from the website)
Extended Warranty Period. The Extended Modification Warran ty shall be the greater of: (i) 10 years from date of initial sale or 120,000 miles (193,000 kilometers) on the odometer, whichever comes first; or (ii) 4 years or 48,000 miles (77,250 kilometers) from the date of installation of the Field Measure, whichever comes first.
Covered Parts.
The Extended Modification Warranty shall cover the cost of all parts and labour needed to repair the items listed below:
• Catalysts 100 23
o Diesel Oxidation Catalyst
o Diesel Particulate Filter Assembly
o Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) Catalyst
• Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) System
o DEF Injector
o DEF Injector Controller
o DEF Supply Module
o DEF Pump
o Temperature Sensor Unit
• Parts of the Fuel System
o Fuel Injectors
• Parts of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System
o EGR Cooler (including bypass control)
o EGR Valve
o EGR Temperature Sensor
o EGR duct
• Other Sensors That Are Covered
o Oxygen Sensors (“Lambda” sensor where equipped after Field Measure)
o NOx Sensors
o Intake Manifold Pressure Sensor
o Particulate Matter Sensor
o Exhaust Temperature Sensor
• Engine Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Transmission Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Hydraulic Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Air intake throttle
• Intake manifold/charge air distributor
• Instrument cluster hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Cylinder Head Assembly components: Valves, Springs, Valve Spring Keepers, Valve Seats, Cam Bearing Caps, Camshaft, and Manifold Studs
• Engine timing chain
• Turbocharger, including VGT actuator
• Coolant thermostat (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Crankcase Ventilation Valve (including line and heating element)
It looks like the lawsuit for Canada has arrived. I just received an email regarding the lawsuit. I know there is a similar thread for the US, but I think a seperate one for Canada makes sense since it won't be exactly the same.
https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/
The compensation amount seems to be 2925$ if no previous owner makes a claim. 2090$ if a previous owner does make a claim. You'll get the compensation if you go ahead with the AEM.
I wonder if the AEM warranty will be the same as in the US. The website doesn't mention which parts are covered and for how long/km the warranty will last. Maybe someone has a list?
Edit 1: Found some information regarding the length of the warranty and parts (copy pasted from the website)
Extended Warranty Period. The Extended Modification Warran ty shall be the greater of: (i) 10 years from date of initial sale or 120,000 miles (193,000 kilometers) on the odometer, whichever comes first; or (ii) 4 years or 48,000 miles (77,250 kilometers) from the date of installation of the Field Measure, whichever comes first.
Covered Parts.
The Extended Modification Warranty shall cover the cost of all parts and labour needed to repair the items listed below:
• Catalysts 100 23
o Diesel Oxidation Catalyst
o Diesel Particulate Filter Assembly
o Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) Catalyst
• Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) System
o DEF Injector
o DEF Injector Controller
o DEF Supply Module
o DEF Pump
o Temperature Sensor Unit
• Parts of the Fuel System
o Fuel Injectors
• Parts of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System
o EGR Cooler (including bypass control)
o EGR Valve
o EGR Temperature Sensor
o EGR duct
• Other Sensors That Are Covered
o Oxygen Sensors (“Lambda” sensor where equipped after Field Measure)
o NOx Sensors
o Intake Manifold Pressure Sensor
o Particulate Matter Sensor
o Exhaust Temperature Sensor
• Engine Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Transmission Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Hydraulic Control Unit hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Air intake throttle
• Intake manifold/charge air distributor
• Instrument cluster hardware (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Cylinder Head Assembly components: Valves, Springs, Valve Spring Keepers, Valve Seats, Cam Bearing Caps, Camshaft, and Manifold Studs
• Engine timing chain
• Turbocharger, including VGT actuator
• Coolant thermostat (where replaced as part of Field Measure)
• Crankcase Ventilation Valve (including line and heating element)
Last edited by Potrice; Jan 11, 2023 at 04:08 PM.
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Good for Canadian friends.
The AEM in USA come to stall as not only dealers are overwhelmed with the jobs, but there is shortage on Nox sensors as well, but I already got my 1st $3511 check.
The AEM in USA come to stall as not only dealers are overwhelmed with the jobs, but there is shortage on Nox sensors as well, but I already got my 1st $3511 check.
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looks like Canada is getting short changed on the compensation amount compared to US. just using Kajtek1's amount and what the possible maximum is in the letter we're looking at almost half of what they are offering US (using USD to CAD conversions).
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
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looks like Canada is getting short changed on the compensation amount compared to US. just using Kajtek1's amount and what the possible maximum is in the letter we're looking at almost half of what they are offering US (using USD to CAD conversions).
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
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looks like Canada is getting short changed on the compensation amount compared to US. just using Kajtek1's amount and what the possible maximum is in the letter we're looking at almost half of what they are offering US (using USD to CAD conversions).
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
@Potrice where did you see that you can still get $600-$1700 if you dont have the modification done? reading the email from Mercedes canada and the https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/ site it clearly calls out under how can i get a payment "Current Owners and Lessees must have a Field Measure installed to receive the cash payments. Installation of the Field Measure is available free or charge to you and you will receive an Extended Modification Warranty after the installation."
https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/faq
S. WHAT IF THERE IS NO AVAILABLE FIELD MEASURE FOR MY ELIGIBLE VEHICLE?
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I just did a pass-thru on my ML350BT. So far so good, no DEF errors anymore. It's 2012 meaning Extended warranty will not really affect field measure installation?
Does it worth to do a claim or I will get only more issues late on a road?
Does it worth to do a claim or I will get only more issues late on a road?
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The check is just icing on the cake.
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Info under FAQ tab:
https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/faq
S. WHAT IF THERE IS NO AVAILABLE FIELD MEASURE FOR MY ELIGIBLE VEHICLE?
https://www.bluetecsettlement.ca/faq
S. WHAT IF THERE IS NO AVAILABLE FIELD MEASURE FOR MY ELIGIBLE VEHICLE?
I dont speak legalese, but i interpret that one of 2 ways...
1. they dont offer a field measure for your vehicle, so you can still get money since there is nothing to modify on your car
2. they offer a field measure for your vehicle BUT there is 0 stock or nowhere available for you to have it installed, so you will still get money
I dont interpret it as there is an available field measure to be installed but you choose not to have it installed and you can still get some money. I hope im wrong and youre right because I would prefer no install/modification to my vehicle and to still get some money
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I'll be honest i haven't read the whole site or all the documents, but from a quick glance at the site, 5.11 page 16 of the agreement doc, and what you've shared here, i dont agree with your interpretation.
I dont speak legalese, but i interpret that one of 2 ways...
1. they dont offer a field measure for your vehicle, so you can still get money since there is nothing to modify on your car
2. they offer a field measure for your vehicle BUT there is 0 stock or nowhere available for you to have it installed, so you will still get money
I dont interpret it as there is an available field measure to be installed but you choose not to have it installed and you can still get some money. I hope im wrong and youre right because I would prefer no install/modification to my vehicle and to still get some money
I dont speak legalese, but i interpret that one of 2 ways...
1. they dont offer a field measure for your vehicle, so you can still get money since there is nothing to modify on your car
2. they offer a field measure for your vehicle BUT there is 0 stock or nowhere available for you to have it installed, so you will still get money
I dont interpret it as there is an available field measure to be installed but you choose not to have it installed and you can still get some money. I hope im wrong and youre right because I would prefer no install/modification to my vehicle and to still get some money
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I just got an email for April 20 2022,
To get the field measure done, on the 2012 S350.
I'll update how it goes,
No field measure yet for the E350 I have.
But its tuned.
I may forgo the full compensation on that one.
To get the field measure done, on the 2012 S350.
I'll update how it goes,
No field measure yet for the E350 I have.
But its tuned.
I may forgo the full compensation on that one.
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Problems Following Field Measure Installation - 2013 GLK250
Hello,
I wondered if anyone had problems with the Field Measure installation?
Our car, a 2013 GLK 250 Bluetec has been in the shop for 4 days total, two separate appointments, and they still have issues programming smooth shifting in the transmission. The AdBlue fluid sensor required replacement after the initial installation (covered).
One more day of service they figure.
Compensation is set and unfortunately doesn't cover prior work due to the same underlying problem. Our engine light had come on in November and we had extensive diagnostics and transmission service, before they deduced the NOx sensors required replacement. Fortunately we did not have the work done and received the class action letter days later. However, that's about $800 worth of service that was not covered.
Windsor, Ontario
I wondered if anyone had problems with the Field Measure installation?
Our car, a 2013 GLK 250 Bluetec has been in the shop for 4 days total, two separate appointments, and they still have issues programming smooth shifting in the transmission. The AdBlue fluid sensor required replacement after the initial installation (covered).
One more day of service they figure.
Compensation is set and unfortunately doesn't cover prior work due to the same underlying problem. Our engine light had come on in November and we had extensive diagnostics and transmission service, before they deduced the NOx sensors required replacement. Fortunately we did not have the work done and received the class action letter days later. However, that's about $800 worth of service that was not covered.
Windsor, Ontario
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Hello,
I wondered if anyone had problems with the Field Measure installation?
Our car, a 2013 GLK 250 Bluetec has been in the shop for 4 days total, two separate appointments, and they still have issues programming smooth shifting in the transmission. The AdBlue fluid sensor required replacement after the initial installation (covered).
One more day of service they figure.
Compensation is set and unfortunately doesn't cover prior work due to the same underlying problem. Our engine light had come on in November and we had extensive diagnostics and transmission service, before they deduced the NOx sensors required replacement. Fortunately we did not have the work done and received the class action letter days later. However, that's about $800 worth of service that was not covered.
Windsor, Ontario
I wondered if anyone had problems with the Field Measure installation?
Our car, a 2013 GLK 250 Bluetec has been in the shop for 4 days total, two separate appointments, and they still have issues programming smooth shifting in the transmission. The AdBlue fluid sensor required replacement after the initial installation (covered).
One more day of service they figure.
Compensation is set and unfortunately doesn't cover prior work due to the same underlying problem. Our engine light had come on in November and we had extensive diagnostics and transmission service, before they deduced the NOx sensors required replacement. Fortunately we did not have the work done and received the class action letter days later. However, that's about $800 worth of service that was not covered.
Windsor, Ontario
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In USA most of us waited 15 months for checks, so I hope Canadian lawyers will do better job.
As for oil cooler during AEM, new report on Sprinter forum, where the owner agree to pay extra for doing oil cooler on V6 Bluetec during AEM.
The engine seized 3 miles from the dealer.
The oil cooler sitting in engine valley opens passages to internal oil lines, so proper coolant drain and getting the valley clinically clean before cooler removal is crucial. Not too many shops can do clean.
As for oil cooler during AEM, new report on Sprinter forum, where the owner agree to pay extra for doing oil cooler on V6 Bluetec during AEM.
The engine seized 3 miles from the dealer.
The oil cooler sitting in engine valley opens passages to internal oil lines, so proper coolant drain and getting the valley clinically clean before cooler removal is crucial. Not too many shops can do clean.
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I came across this thread since I have been browsing used Bluetec's due to the recent surge in fuel prices, I just want to see if I have this right. If I run the VIN and the vehicle has not had the "Field Measure" installed, I would be eligible to have the relevant components replaced, an extended warranty on emissions components, and potentially receive up to $2900 provided a previous owner doesn't file a claim? For a warranty example, a 2014 E250 with 140,000km would get the 4yr/77k extension as that is the "greater" of the two options?
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I believe this verbiage covers "post announcement" owners:
A Post-Announcement Eligible Owner is a Settlement Class Member who did not own the Eligible Vehicle on or before December 8, 2021, but who owns the Eligible Vehicle at the time the Field Measure is installed.
To me this says an individual could purchase a Field Measure eligible vehicle after Dec. 2021 and still make a claim.
A Post-Announcement Eligible Owner is a Settlement Class Member who did not own the Eligible Vehicle on or before December 8, 2021, but who owns the Eligible Vehicle at the time the Field Measure is installed.
To me this says an individual could purchase a Field Measure eligible vehicle after Dec. 2021 and still make a claim.
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Certainly reads that way doesn't it. Then You are probably good to go if you buy a vehicle that gets the field measure. I went to their website and entered my vin to find out if my vehicle was eligible but I also received a notice through the mail so I assume you could do the same before you bought a vehicle, if you buy through a dealer maybe they will find out for you on the spot.
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Long article, but the only note that applies to Egghous situation says
"
Here is the page to study.
https://www.mbbluetecsettlement.com/
"
- After September 14, 2020 began owning or leasing and Register a Subject Vehicle for which an AEM has not been installed."
Here is the page to study.
https://www.mbbluetecsettlement.com/
