OM642 Longevity
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If only we had post engine injection for regens and easily removable DPF sections for cleaning our engines may actually let them last 500k plus miles. Ahhh well.
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Are there any fuel additives that help the rings before they are stuck?
if it was a gas engine I would fill each cylinder with solvent. Let it sit and then turn it over slowly a few times.
I don't know what to do with a diesel.
Guess you could do about the same, but would have to pull the injectors or glow plugs.
And I understand that also has risks.
if it was a gas engine I would fill each cylinder with solvent. Let it sit and then turn it over slowly a few times.
I don't know what to do with a diesel.
Guess you could do about the same, but would have to pull the injectors or glow plugs.
And I understand that also has risks.
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From a Diesel oil perspective, the oils spec'd for these new engines with all the pollution systems are sketchy at best. Use the wrong oil and you risk trashing the engine, or trashing the SCR/DPF. The only MB spec listed for this oil is 228.31. Make sure that will work for you!
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From a Diesel oil perspective, the oils spec'd for these new engines with all the pollution systems are sketchy at best. Use the wrong oil and you risk trashing the engine, or trashing the SCR/DPF. The only MB spec listed for this oil is 228.31. Make sure that will work for you!
You only use the RESTORE for one oil change every 100K miles. I don’t think that will hurt any of the items mentioned above.
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The OM642 engine in my 9000 lb Sprinter just passed 213,000 miles. We just finished almost 6000 miles trip around lower states.
I added oil only once.
We have owners on Sprinter forum reporting >600,000 miles on those vehicles.
I added oil only once.
We have owners on Sprinter forum reporting >600,000 miles on those vehicles.
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Ditto what @olesouthernboy stated. One cycle of Valvoline PBR shouldn't kill your DPF.
Valvoline has announced a new version of Restore being released in 2024,
Premium Blue Restore on Valvoline website
Another easier to find source of oil that will clean rings is from High Performance Lubricants (sold at their online store (Advance Lubrication Inc). Bob is the Oil Guy forum has many threads with photos and used oil analysis that show it does as claimed. They are made with high content of Ester and AN oils to clean the rings and everything else. They are not flushes and do not contain any solvents or harsh chemicals. I used their Euro 229.51/LL04 oil to clean deposits out of a BMW N52 I bought in one 5k mile OCI. Worked as advertised. All the brown crusty stuff was gone from the head and oil consumption is zero.
https://www.advlubrication.com/collections/automotive-lubricants
I have the Euro 5W-30 229,51 "compliant" HPL oil in my 2008 E320 OM642 currently. Does NOT need to be cleaned as at only 161k miles it still doesn't burn any oil with 5k OCIs (mostly annual changes) of Castrol C3 oil from new. I did change the CCV system components at 120k miles.
Valvoline has announced a new version of Restore being released in 2024,
Premium Blue Restore on Valvoline website
Another easier to find source of oil that will clean rings is from High Performance Lubricants (sold at their online store (Advance Lubrication Inc). Bob is the Oil Guy forum has many threads with photos and used oil analysis that show it does as claimed. They are made with high content of Ester and AN oils to clean the rings and everything else. They are not flushes and do not contain any solvents or harsh chemicals. I used their Euro 229.51/LL04 oil to clean deposits out of a BMW N52 I bought in one 5k mile OCI. Worked as advertised. All the brown crusty stuff was gone from the head and oil consumption is zero.
https://www.advlubrication.com/collections/automotive-lubricants
I have the Euro 5W-30 229,51 "compliant" HPL oil in my 2008 E320 OM642 currently. Does NOT need to be cleaned as at only 161k miles it still doesn't burn any oil with 5k OCIs (mostly annual changes) of Castrol C3 oil from new. I did change the CCV system components at 120k miles.
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Ditto what @olesouthernboy stated. One cycle of Valvoline PBR shouldn't kill your DPF.
Valvoline has announced a new version of Restore being released in 2024,
Premium Blue Restore on Valvoline website
Another easier to find source of oil that will clean rings is from High Performance Lubricants (sold at their online store (Advance Lubrication Inc). Bob is the Oil Guy forum has many threads with photos and used oil analysis that show it does as claimed. They are made with high content of Ester and AN oils to clean the rings and everything else. They are not flushes and do not contain any solvents or harsh chemicals. I used their Euro 229.51/LL04 oil to clean deposits out of a BMW N52 I bought in one 5k mile OCI. Worked as advertised. All the brown crusty stuff was gone from the head and oil consumption is zero.
https://www.advlubrication.com/collections/automotive-lubricants
I have the Euro 5W-30 229,51 "compliant" HPL oil in my 2008 E320 OM642 currently. Does NOT need to be cleaned as at only 161k miles it still doesn't burn any oil with 5k OCIs (mostly annual changes) of Castrol C3 oil from new. I did change the CCV system components at 120k miles.
Valvoline has announced a new version of Restore being released in 2024,
Premium Blue Restore on Valvoline website
Another easier to find source of oil that will clean rings is from High Performance Lubricants (sold at their online store (Advance Lubrication Inc). Bob is the Oil Guy forum has many threads with photos and used oil analysis that show it does as claimed. They are made with high content of Ester and AN oils to clean the rings and everything else. They are not flushes and do not contain any solvents or harsh chemicals. I used their Euro 229.51/LL04 oil to clean deposits out of a BMW N52 I bought in one 5k mile OCI. Worked as advertised. All the brown crusty stuff was gone from the head and oil consumption is zero.
https://www.advlubrication.com/collections/automotive-lubricants
I have the Euro 5W-30 229,51 "compliant" HPL oil in my 2008 E320 OM642 currently. Does NOT need to be cleaned as at only 161k miles it still doesn't burn any oil with 5k OCIs (mostly annual changes) of Castrol C3 oil from new. I did change the CCV system components at 120k miles.
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This conspiracy theory needs to go away.
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Our 2008 E320 does have 228.51 in the Owner's Manual and on the sticker on the valve cover.
Delo 400 XLE is listed on the truck approval sheets on the Mercedes Bevo list. Mercedes BEVO 228.51
I haven't tried it though because 229.5x is easy to find and doesn't cost more in my area.
Delo 400 XLE is listed on the truck approval sheets on the Mercedes Bevo list. Mercedes BEVO 228.51
I haven't tried it though because 229.5x is easy to find and doesn't cost more in my area.
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Don't worry, I am not buying in to the "229.51 kills engines", line, but definitely thinking that there are0 advantages to an oil formulated primarily for diesel (228.51) spec.
Deli 400 is certainty approved for a lot more diesel engines than Mobil1 ESP3.
now that I an not on IL, I am not as worried about having a 0w oil.
Deli 400 is certainty approved for a lot more diesel engines than Mobil1 ESP3.
now that I an not on IL, I am not as worried about having a 0w oil.
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Yes, kajtec1. I've been one of the few who, like you, tell people that 229.52 has improved oxidation spec for a reason.
Hello Jell-O. I do believe that bio-diesel in the mixtures are a part of the problem.
Mercedes addressed it,
I've come to believe there is no point in continuing argue with the non believers who buy a Mercedes then don't believe Mercedes bulletins and information sheets.
They're gonna do what they're gonna do.
Hello Jell-O. I do believe that bio-diesel in the mixtures are a part of the problem.
Mercedes addressed it,
I've come to believe there is no point in continuing argue with the non believers who buy a Mercedes then don't believe Mercedes bulletins and information sheets.
They're gonna do what they're gonna do.
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MB never was proved to cheat on emissions. The Bluetec settlement is about not delivering what was promised and it is settlement, so nothing was proved, or admitted.
