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Are you talking about the same Mercedes that was lying and cheating on emissions? Is that the Mercedes you want me to believe? Mercedes lost all credibility long ago.
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Mercedes never cheated - it was fully disclosed and common knowledge all along that they only turned on the urea injection system above a certain temperature, which litigation-happy America turned upside down. VAG cheated.
And, as far as credibility goes, you are in absolutely no position to make any statements... the claims that you post on here are about as credible as receiving divine guidance from the talking octopus. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
You are the only one who lies here. MB never was proved to cheat on emissions. The Bluetec settlement is about not delivering what was promised and it is settlement, so nothing was proved, or admitted.
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment:
To say MB never was proved to cheat on emissions is not actually the truth, is it? https://www.emissions.co.uk/manufacturers/mercedes/
Signed,
A happy ML350 Bluetec owner
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment:
To say MB never was proved to cheat on emissions is not actually the truth, is it? https://www.emissions.co.uk/manufacturers/mercedes/
Signed,
A happy ML350 Bluetec owner
You are the only one who lies here.
MB never was proved to cheat on emissions. The Bluetec settlement is about not delivering what was promised and it is settlement, so nothing was proved, or admitted.
Sprinter vans and passenger cars with undisclosed AECDs and defeat devices programmed into the vehicles’ complex emissions control software. These devices cause the vehicles to produce compliant results during emissions testing. But when not running a test, the vehicles’ emissions controls perform differently, and less effectively, resulting in an increase in NOx emissions above compliant levels.
Mercedes lies, only a fool still takes what they say at face value.
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment:
To say MB never was proved to cheat on emissions is not actually the truth, is it? https://www.emissions.co.uk/manufacturers/mercedes/
Signed,
A happy ML350 Bluetec owner
Er - yes it is. Quoting something that some ignorant or greedy individual(s) posted on the Internet does not make it true. It is about as true as the Pizzagate conspiracy theory or that Hillary is an alien.
Signed,
A not-so-ignorant ML350 Bluetec owner
Last edited by Diabolis; Dec 13, 2023 at 01:56 PM.
Sprinter vans and passenger cars with undisclosed AECDs and defeat devices programmed into the vehicles’ complex emissions control software. These devices cause the vehicles to produce compliant results during emissions testing. But when not running a test, the vehicles’ emissions controls perform differently, and less effectively, resulting in an increase in NOx emissions above compliant levels.
Mercedes lies, only a fool still takes what they say at face value.
Right.. sort of like the Iraq WMD. Because we all know the US government has never, ever exaggerated (never mind outright lied) about anything... they absolutely fact-check every single bit of information that comes out. Have you been using horse dewormer much lately?
I will literally pay for your vasectomy.
Last edited by Diabolis; Dec 13, 2023 at 01:56 PM.
Sprinter vans and passenger cars with undisclosed AECDs and defeat devices programmed into the vehicles’ complex emissions control software. These devices cause the vehicles to produce compliant results during emissions testing. But when not running a test, the vehicles’ emissions controls perform differently, and less effectively, resulting in an increase in NOx emissions above compliant levels.
Mercedes lies, only a fool still takes what they say at face value.
Do you read what you link?
The only thing real in this are ALLEGATIONS.
Do you read what you link?
The only thing real in this are ALLEGATIONS.
You forgot the $1,500,000,000 fine Mercedes paid to the federal government to avoid turning those ALLEGATIONS into CONVICTIONS with prison time for the MB employees that knowingly lied and cheating on emissions.
You forgot the $1,500,000,000 fine Mercedes paid to the federal government to avoid turning those ALLEGATIONS into CONVICTIONS with prison time for the MB employees that knowingly lied and cheating on emissions.
It's common sense you can use an oil formulated for a diesel in a gasoline engine, but not the other way around. But then again, common sense isn't so common LOL. The point I was making was that people here are stating that 229.52 is specifically made for gasoline engines only. It's not.
Some people should put their money where their mouth is, trade in their Mercedes for a Ford, and go troll on Ford forums. Then the rest of us can get on with life with our reliable OM642s using 229.5x DIESEL oil.
Why continue to own a Mercedes if you believe Mercedes is a lying company selling crap vehicles? Sell that Mercedes, buy a Ford, and get on with your life. Or is arguing on the internet your hobby? Yeah, that's what it's really about.
Some people should put their money where their mouth is, trade in their Mercedes for a Ford, and go troll on Ford forums. Then the rest of us can get on with life with our reliable OM642s using 229.5x DIESEL oil.
Why continue to own a Mercedes if you believe Mercedes is a lying company selling crap vehicles? Sell that Mercedes, buy a Ford, and get on with your life. Or is arguing on the internet your hobby? Yeah, that's what it's really about.
Some people should put their money where their mouth is, trade in their Mercedes for a Ford, and go troll on Ford forums. Then the rest of us can get on with life with our reliable OM642s using 229.5x DIESEL oil.
Why continue to own a Mercedes if you believe Mercedes is a lying company selling crap vehicles? Sell that Mercedes, buy a Ford, and get on with your life. Or is arguing on the internet your hobby? Yeah, that's what it's really about.
Mercedes is not the company they were thru the 1990’s. Pre Chrysler they built cars to last many hundreds of thousands with not too many mistakes. The mistakes they made were warranted for a long time; sometimes mileage and years didn’t even matter. Now it’s basically 4/50 and anything after that and it’s the big ole middle finger. We could have a long conversation about being engineered to be serviced, rolled edges on heat shields, standard fasteners, not putting the fuel filter of an OM642 in the middle of the valley, oh the oil cooler is buried under everything in that valley…… Post Chrysler all the care about us the bucks brother.
I swore MB off and switched to Volvo for me and my wife for years. She needed a car and drove a 2014 GL450 and loved it. Car seemed strong and decently built so we bought it. We ditched it in ~45,000 miles due to cylinder scoring, prior to 100K miles. In talking with a factory service tech rep (not a dealership mech) there are tons of M278 engines crapping out all over. I will say I am having good success with my 2013 GL350 but it stays on the highway, 70% highway at a minimum and I service the hell out of it. Some say I’m way past **** on my service regime. And no, I do not use 229.52 oil.
I will say I am having good success with my 2013 GL350 but it stays on the highway, 70% highway at a minimum and I service the hell out of it. Some say I’m way past **** on my service regime. And no, I do not use 229.52 oil.
You might call it my opinion instead of BS. I have been a fan of MB for well over 30 years and have owned
1-123 240D (started my appreciation of their engineering)
2-123 300D wagons; well over 300k miles each
1-123 300D sedan; into the 400k miles
1-124 (1995 diesel sedan); almost 500k miles
1-1999 CLK-320; 130k(ish)
1- 1989 260E; around 200k miles
1-2014 GL450 w/m278 engine 96k miles (see pic below)
I currently have
1-123 wagon; 225k miles
1-124 (1995 diesel sedan) 130k miles
1-x166 (diesel) 226k miles
Now
I do almost 100% of my maintenance now and did do 100% of any work on them when I was in my 20-30’s. I have personally watched, in general, their decline in quality over 34 years. The exact statement from a regional service tech from MB in Jacksonville, FL was “yeah you were correct about the m278, they are not aging very well”.
Also, my current mechanic is a past 35 year master tech (45+ years now specializing in European cars) with the local dealership who went out on his own (have known him since I got my first MB, the 240D) and he agrees with few exceptions. I took my 2013 GL350 to another Euro shop here in town because my normal mechanic was backed up 6-7 weeks and he wouldn’t even touch it stating that the x164 & x166 models were such POS’s that he wouldn’t work on them, especially the diesels.
BS, not so much; critical opinion absolutely.
pic of cylinder 5 of our 2014 M278.
Last edited by olesouthernboy; Jan 14, 2024 at 03:40 PM.
2013 GL350 198k+ 56k past AEM. Burns no oil between 5k OCI and runs like a top. Just replaced engine mounts so that tells you how I drive it, pretty hard. I have owned it since 92k miles and ran T6 in it for about 50k and delvac ESP 5-40 since about 150k. I know the oil thing starts plenty of arguments however, I do subscribe to a diesel needs diesel oil. If the DPF has to be replaced a little sooner so be it. I’m getting between 425 & 490 miles average between regens.
**UPDATE**
Around 245,000 miles now; no changes, lol (oh yeah 1 change, AC compressor replaced) I have run 2 rounds of Valvoline Premium Blue Restore through the engine 3 oil changes apart. It was not using but about 3-4 "ringlets" of oil before the PBR and is still using 3-4 afterwards. Using the PBR just gives me peace of mind that the engine is as clean as I can get it for max longevity. Last oil change of PBR I sent off a sample to SPEEDiagnostix, no issues that I can tell, tell me if you see anything concerning.
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