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Old 05-28-2013, 11:25 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys. I do appreciate the feedback.

I just don't want rubbing tires on my fender so even if they did send the offsets that they recommended for my application, I can't drive my car. Maybe a camber kit and rolling fenders would resolve it, but I am hoping they allow me to return / exchange with a set that can work, whatever the offsets become. 275 tires in the rear would not help this issue.

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rear wheel - you can see it is the back section of the fender that rubs as the tire sticks out a lot in that section







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Too bad they don't work, but they're a great looking set. Hopefully you get the right fitment without any issues.
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Too bad,they really look nice.I don't think that they will change the rims after installing.
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They do look great, I'm surprised you find the car undriveable though

Mine on 19" are pretty close to the fenders, they rub when I have 2 people in the back but that is it. I've got 15mm spacers on the back of mine, makes the offset ET38 on 9.5 with 265/30 tire plus H&R springs.
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They do look great, I'm surprised you find the car undriveable though

Mine on 19" are pretty close to the fenders, they rub when I have 2 people in the back but that is it. I've got 15mm spacers on the back of mine, makes the offset ET38 on 9.5 with 265/30 tire plus H&R springs.
His problem is 285/30.
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My shop said 275 wouldn't fix as it is too far out (see 2nd pic - good example). The vendor recommend 285 tires with 10" wheels. They don't make 275 in the tires I have so I would need to buy 4 new ones just to guess. So more money, more waiting...

Based on my last two emails looking for help, the forum vendor is not going to help so probably SOL. Certainly not a fun experience from start to finish.

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Did you or your installer measure the actual offset to determine if it is what you ordered or if it matches the wheel stamp? If it isn't what was ordered then I don't see where the vendor could deny the return.

Too bad, the wheels look good ... maybe, like you suggested earlier, you will have to roll the rear fenders to resolve the issue.

Good luck Venom
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No I did not think I had to, but I will now for sure. Even if it is the offset they said it was, it is what the manufacturer recommended for my car, so I was hoping they would just exchange them without hassle.

My shop told me I couldn't roll the fender as E550 coupes have fenders rolled from factory so no room to roll. I am looking into a camber kit but not sure if that will resolve, just make it less bad.
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Trust me you won't solve the problem by rolling the fenders.You have to run maximum 275/30.
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You should check Turbo MB 550C's set up in the offset thread..........
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Originally Posted by venom_55
No I did not think I had to, but I will now for sure. Even if it is the offset they said it was, it is what the manufacturer recommended for my car, so I was hoping they would just exchange them without hassle.

My shop told me I couldn't roll the fender as E550 coupes have fenders rolled from factory so no room to roll. I am looking into a camber kit but not sure if that will resolve, just make it less bad.

It looks like your rear ET is probably more like a 35 or 30. They stick out a lot further than mine, and I have 45 with no rubbing issues. And I trust that BBS got the stamp right
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Originally Posted by gavrocool
I think you should listen the seniors regarding the offset and tire fitting issue.
Yes, because more posts = better advice.
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Originally Posted by uptempo115
Too bad they don't work, but they're a great looking set. Hopefully you get the right fitment without any issues.
I agree. Great looking.
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Originally Posted by nawlinstornado
It looks like your rear ET is probably more like a 35 or 30. They stick out a lot further than mine, and I have 45 with no rubbing issues. And I trust that BBS got the stamp right
I do not agree. His offsets are as advertised - in the 40s. He's perfectly flash, while you're a bit "in". His problem is that he's too low, while you're stock. With stock springs his set up works with zero issues.
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Originally Posted by venom_55
Well... Had them installed today and rubs really bad in the rear. Not drivable. Tires get chewed up. Rubs in slight bumps and turns, so clearly either these are +45 and not +50 as the forum wheel vendor said they were or the fitment the wheel manufacture was off on their suggestion. Either way, they don't work.
You should definitely verify the offset, but I doubt they are 45. You're poking more than mine and the springs shouldn't have caused a change there. You did get an alignment after the spring install, right?
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I do not agree. His offsets are as advertised - in the 40s. He's perfectly flash, while you're a bit "in". His problem is that he's too low, while you're stock. With stock springs his set up works with zero issues.
So you're saying the springs changed the poke? I don't think so. Especially if he had an alignment done after the install.
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Originally Posted by gavrocool
Trust me you won't solve the problem by rolling the fenders.You have to run maximum 275/30.
Or just get the right offset.
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Originally Posted by nawlinstornado
So you're saying the springs changed the poke? I don't think so. Especially if he had an alignment done after the install.
I did not say that. What I said is that his offsets are in the 40s as his pictures prove. He's not passed fenders at all (front can even be pushed out a bit more). I tried mid 30s offsets on the car - it looked nothing like his pictures. IMHO he's too low for 285/30 and would need to switch to 275/30 or stay with 285 and go back "up".
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The forum wheel vendor is telling me that 100% the rear wheels are +50 as ordered and that normal practice is to roll fenders when lowering. So no return being excepted by the wheel company or manufacturer. Not a fun experience...

Yes, I did get an alignment done immediately after lowering.

As of this point I have no other options but to go back to stock height and try that or buy 4 new tires and try that since a return / exchange is not being offered. Either way, sucks for me I guess. I will probably go back to stock springs as my first option and see if that works, but first I will take wheels off and measure offsets. Just read a tutorial on how to do it. Pretty easy actually and wish I did that first.
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FYI: backspacing for 10" wide et50 (50mm offset) wheel is 7.47".
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Originally Posted by venom_55
Nope, no issues at all with the springs. Not sure why Eibach doesn't list them for the E550 coupe but figured I would try it.
The reason why is the fact that all E550 in Canada come standard with the agility control. Some E350 do not and that is the reason Eibach lists only E350, but they specify that their springs are only for models without it. I'm wondering if you have driven your car with the SPORT mode selected (with these Eibachs installed) and if there were any signs of problems?
I don't see a reason why there would be because its like having a car fully loaded with people and gear, it would drop under weight of the load, then if you select SPORT mode, the shocks should still perform, even thou the springs are compressed....
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So.. I had the offsets measured and they are not what I ordered.

Front is +40
Rear is +43

I ordered 35 front and 50 rear. No wonder the rear rubs so badly.

The forum vendor that I purchased the wheels from is absolutely useless. Campionishop is the wheel shop that screwed me over with this purchase and was not willing to exchange wheels when clearly they sent the wrong offsets. Tried to convince me it was because I was lowered..

Anyway, at least I now know and can warn others from getting screwed over when ordering wheels from a vendor on this forum. Buyer beware...
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Sorry to hear that Venom, sounds like the stamped offsets are correct [allowing for a 2mm error on the rears]. Still don't know how a reputable vendor can refuse to correct the now obvious error.

I hope you are able to come to some mutual resolution, if you paid by credit card you may have some protection by filing a dispute.
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Originally Posted by venom_55
So.. I had the offsets measured and they are not what I ordered.

Front is +40
Rear is +43


I ordered 35 front and 50 rear. No wonder the rear rubs so badly.

Which is what I said. And like I said before, not all is lost for you - try 275/30-19. You'll be surprised what extra 1/3" shorter diameter and narrower section width can accomplish. And you do not have to buy four new tires - if 275s are not available from the same brand/model as fronts, you can safely use a different brand/model at the rears as long as rear's brand/model will give you at least the same traction as the front (especially important in the wet).
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Yes, you definitely called this one. I just removed the lowering springs and went back to stock. Kind of a waste but figured this was my cheapest option to rectify the rubbing so I could drive the car. I wasn't 100% sure about the rear only tire option and if that would fix the problem or just be another experiment.

Car doesn't look as good now but at least it is drivable.. When these tires need to be replaced I will try the 275's. just annoying I had to go through this experience.

Thanks for your follow-up.

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