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Old 05-10-2013 | 05:50 PM
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Offset Question

Hey guys,

I had my new rims finally arrive but they were not the offsets I ordered.

What I ordered:
19x8.5 et +35
19x10 et +50

What I received:
19x8.5 et +40
19x10 et +45

I will be running 245/35/19 and 285/30/19 tires and I will be using Eibach lowering springs on my 2012 E550 coupe.

I realize the front will fit but not be that exciting and not sure if I will have rubbing issues after lowering. What about the rear offsets?

Do I send them back and get what I ordered or will these offsets be ok? I really wanted the +35 offset for the front but have no idea on the ideal 10" rear offset.

The worst part is the +35 and +50 was recommended by the wheel shop and the manufacturer.

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
Old 05-10-2013 | 05:59 PM
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It is really tempting to take the wheels after a long wait, especially when you see your wheel and can't wait to get it on your car. However, at the end of the day you know that you want the more aggressive fitment that was ordered and you will regret not getting it your way!!

I would say send them back and get it done right.
Old 05-10-2013 | 07:10 PM
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Yeah, you are probably right. Thanks!
Old 05-10-2013 | 07:14 PM
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Rears will be flush... so after lowering they will rub with a full car or hitting a pothole.
Old 05-10-2013 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
Hey guys,

I had my new rims finally arrive but they were not the offsets I ordered.

What I ordered:
19x8.5 et +35
19x10 et +50

What I received:
19x8.5 et +40
19x10 et +45

I will be running 245/35/19 and 285/30/19 tires and I will be using Eibach lowering springs on my 2012 E550 coupe.

I realize the front will fit but not be that exciting and not sure if I will have rubbing issues after lowering. What about the rear offsets?

Do I send them back and get what I ordered or will these offsets be ok? I really wanted the +35 offset for the front but have no idea on the ideal 10" rear offset.

The worst part is the +35 and +50 was recommended by the wheel shop and the manufacturer.

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
Send them back...but no 285/30 at the rear.Maximum 275.
Old 05-14-2013 | 06:44 PM
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Ok, wheel shop informed me the wheels I received have the correct offset that I ordered but the standard offset label was applied to the box and stamped on the inner part of the wheel. So.. they say offsets are correct but just not labelled that way.
Old 05-16-2013 | 02:15 PM
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Sounds a little suspicious that the offset stamps do not match the actual offsets of the wheels ... are you satisfied with the fitment after installation??
Old 05-17-2013 | 10:22 PM
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Sounds a little suspicious that the offset stamps do not match the actual offsets of the wheels ... are you satisfied with the fitment after installation??
Agreed. Very suspicious. I am getting the wheels put on in a week so that will be the day I know if the vendor is BSing me or if fitment is good. Just seems weird that a company that offers custom offsets stamps their wheel with a default offset... First that I heard of this, so we shall see.
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Originally Posted by gavrocool
Send them back...but no 285/30 at the rear.Maximum 275.
Why do people keep saying that? I have that setup with no issues.
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Exactly and especially since he himself has 285/25 (20s) on identical width and offset wheel.
Old 05-20-2013 | 07:34 PM
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I already purchased 285/30/19 tires for the rear so it is too late anyway. I shouldn't have any issues if the offsets are what I ordered. I am just surprised BC racing doesn't stamp their wheels with the actual offsets. Oh well, I will know next Monday when I get them mounted and car lowered.
Old 05-21-2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
I shouldn't have any issues if the offsets are what I ordered.
That is a really sketchy statement. I could understand the box being mis-labeled, but the wheel mis-stamped? That's just weird.

On the other hand, the cheap Chinese knock-offs I had were a little bit off - the ET45 rears (ordered and stamped) were probably closer to 50.
Old 05-22-2013 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
I already purchased 285/30/19 tires for the rear so it is too late anyway. I shouldn't have any issues if the offsets are what I ordered. I am just surprised BC racing doesn't stamp their wheels with the actual offsets. Oh well, I will know next Monday when I get them mounted and car lowered.
What are you going to use in lowering, coilovers or just springs?
Old 05-24-2013 | 08:52 AM
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What are you going to use in lowering, coilovers or just springs?
I ordered Eibach lowering springs. Doesn't seem to be be too aggressive a drop and should look nice with 19's.
Old 05-24-2013 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nawlinstornado
That is a really sketchy statement. I could understand the box being mis-labeled, but the wheel mis-stamped? That's just weird.

On the other hand, the cheap Chinese knock-offs I had were a little bit off - the ET45 rears (ordered and stamped) were probably closer to 50.
Oh I agree. I can't believe BC racing does this as normal practices so I also find it a very sketchy answer. Anyway I can measure and tell what the offset actually is?
Old 05-24-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
I ordered Eibach lowering springs. Doesn't seem to be be too aggressive a drop and should look nice with 19's.
Eibach? What is the part number you've ordered? Are you having the dealer install the springs? Will you be doing the alignment?
Can you please keep me posted once its done... I'd like to do the same myself..
Old 05-27-2013 | 10:15 PM
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Well... Had them installed today and rubs really bad in the rear. Not drivable. Tires get chewed up. Rubs in slight bumps and turns, so clearly either these are +45 and not +50 as the forum wheel vendor said they were or the fitment the wheel manufacture was off on their suggestion. Either way, they don't work.

The fronts don't look aggressive but not complaining because at least they don't rub.

Had the Eibach springs installed by my auto shop. Looks great, drives great (except for the wheel issue). They are the ones for the E350 but no problems on the E550 (at least for now). Gives the car a great stance.

I knew the wheels must have the offsets that were actually stamped on the wheel but they insisted it was correct and had to mount tires and install in order to prove it. Waste of time...

Any suggestions on the offset issue? I asked the forum wheel guy if he accepts returns for the rear wheel so we shall see...
Old 05-28-2013 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
Well... Had them installed today and rubs really bad in the rear. Not drivable. Tires get chewed up. Rubs in slight bumps and turns, so clearly either these are +45 and not +50 as the forum wheel vendor said they were or the fitment the wheel manufacture was off on their suggestion. Either way, they don't work.

The fronts don't look aggressive but not complaining because at least they don't rub.

Had the Eibach springs installed by my auto shop. Looks great, drives great (except for the wheel issue). They are the ones for the E350 but no problems on the E550 (at least for now). Gives the car a great stance.

I knew the wheels must have the offsets that were actually stamped on the wheel but they insisted it was correct and had to mount tires and install in order to prove it. Waste of time...

Any suggestions on the offset issue? I asked the forum wheel guy if he accepts returns for the rear wheel so we shall see...
I think you should listen the seniors regarding the offset and tire fitting issue.
Old 05-28-2013 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by venom_55
Well... Had them installed today and rubs really bad in the rear. Not drivable. Tires get chewed up. Rubs in slight bumps and turns, so clearly either these are +45 and not +50 as the forum wheel vendor said they were or the fitment the wheel manufacture was off on their suggestion. Either way, they don't work.

The fronts don't look aggressive but not complaining because at least they don't rub.

Had the Eibach springs installed by my auto shop. Looks great, drives great (except for the wheel issue). They are the ones for the E350 but no problems on the E550 (at least for now). Gives the car a great stance.

I knew the wheels must have the offsets that were actually stamped on the wheel but they insisted it was correct and had to mount tires and install in order to prove it. Waste of time...

Any suggestions on the offset issue? I asked the forum wheel guy if he accepts returns for the rear wheel so we shall see...
Wow... I hope things work out for you with the return.
As for the Eibachs, I assume you've put the original wheels on and have ridden the car... Does it throw any errors on your dash? The Eibachs are listed for cars without agility control and your E550 has it, so I'm wondering if you're experiencing any problems? My understanding is that agility control are basically valves adjusting pressure in the shock absorbers, so technically there should be no issues, however, Eibach is listing these spring for cars without agility... and I'm wondering why?
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Originally Posted by gavrocool
I think you should listen the seniors regarding the offset and tire fitting issue.
How can your setup not rub as it seems to be the same as mine but 20" wheels instead of 19". Unless they really screwed up the offsets my car is not reallly drivable and rubs over the smallest bump in the road with just me driving.
Old 05-28-2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Draz
Does it throw any errors on your dash? The Eibachs are listed for cars without agility control and your E550 has it, so I'm wondering if you're experiencing any problems? My understanding is that agility control are basically valves adjusting pressure in the shock absorbers, so technically there should be no issues, however, Eibach is listing these spring for cars without agility... and I'm wondering why?
Nope, no issues at all with the springs. Not sure why Eibach doesn't list them for the E550 coupe but figured I would try it.
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Originally Posted by venom_55
How can your setup not rub as it seems to be the same as mine but 20" wheels instead of 19". Unless they really screwed up the offsets my car is not reallly drivable and rubs over the smallest bump in the road with just me driving.
I am posting different infos since MAY 2010,i told everyone that i have rolled my rear fenders.And i do not think i have the same set up as yours.You should copy my winter set up and you won't have any problems.By the way, a week ago i started a thread about OFFSETS and TIRES,you should start posting there the questions and infos so that future members can have real infos and opinions.https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-c...up-thread.html
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Originally Posted by gavrocool
Send them back...but no 285/30 at the rear.Maximum 275.
Here is my answer...if you didn't care about it...
Old 05-28-2013 | 02:31 PM
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You spent a lot of time with Nawlins on this forum determining the appropriate offsets that you wanted to use for your car and the vendor/manufacturer did not provide what was ordered ... send them back [including the fronts] and have them redone to the offset specs that were ordered. You have already voiced your concern prior to installation and there should be no reason that the vendor/manufacturer would not take back the wheels and make the appropriate corrections.

Good luck, I hope all goes well for you Venom.

BTW Gavro, I respect all of the advice that you provide on the forum and it is invaluable but give Venom a break, there was no need for the 'I told you so' comment, the offsets appear to be incorrect from what was ordered ... the tire size may not be the issue

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Old 05-28-2013 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GerryMac
You spent a lot of time with Nawlins on this forum determining the appropriate offsets that you wanted to use for your car and the vendor/manufacturer did not provide what was ordered ... send them back [including the fronts] and have them redone to the offset specs that were ordered. You have already voiced your concern prior to installation and there should be no reason that the vendor/manufacturer would not take back the wheels and make the appropriate corrections.

Good luck, I hope all goes well for you Venom.

BTW Gavro, I respect all of the advice that you provide on the forum and it is invaluable but give Venom a break, there was no need for the 'I told you so' comment, the offsets appear to be incorrect from what was ordered ... the tire size may not be the issue
OK,OK but please change all of your issues to the special offset thread so that all the newbies should have all the info in choosing some new rims.Just my opinion.I won't give any advice for offsets if not in the correct section.And by the way the guys from CAMPIONISHOP sent me my rims in the wrong box the offsets not being written correctly but i measured myself the offsets.Maybe VENOM is wrong.I did the same but they told me to measure them and it was the offset i ordered.Venom is a newbie,maybe he was wrong.Anyway,VENOM,good luck in changing them.

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