Citybuild122

Harold1898

K507

I have used the PC in 2 of my vehicles and can say it works as described...36 parameters to tune your 'fly by wire' throttle response...best mod for the money!

Citybuild122

Jujigatame

I love mine, It makes it a lot more enjoyable to drive. I wouldn't be surprised if it cut a 0-60 time down a little, but I wouldn't think much. It's just a lot more responsive.

I tried to get a RaceChip, but they don't make one for our cars (I have a 2013 E350 Cab).

If you find one, please post it!

Rick-F

I used a throttle response controller (Not the Pedal Commander) on my CLA250. The one I used had only 3 settings and a very small controller.

The CLA250 (turbo 4) had a very significant throttle + turbo lag. The addition of the pedal box provided a great deal of improvement. I don't believe it made .7 or .8 second difference in 0-60 time-- but it drastically improved drive-ability and enjoyment. Trust me, when you need accelerate quickly to pass or make a light, etc. just .2 sec. can make a big difference. You don't gain any power, but you get access to the available power quicker.

Harold1898

bob2011

Why not just get a proper tune? It has the effect of the pedal commander, and you get a bit more HP from your engine!

Bahnstormer

ECU tune and Pedal Commander are like apples and oranges.
They compliment each other for maximum performance boost and one cannot replace the other.

bob2011

I promise you, getting an ECU tune is like having the pedal commander. If you have a tune there's no need for it, as the tune will program out the lag you experience with the OEM tune.

Bahnstormer

​​​​​​You're flat out wrong.
I started out with a Eurocharged ECU tune and added a Sprint Booster later.
Night and day difference.

bob2011

I cant comment about the eurocharged tune, because my car was tuned by OE. but I had a SB on my old E550 before I got it tuned, and took it off after the tune, there was very little difference between the tune and SB, the laziness was programmed out. So I know I'm not wrong lmao.

Bahnstormer

Whatever man. I know when I turn the Sprint Booster device off with the switch it feels like I just lost 30 HP. To each their own.

400ixl

Will make absolutely zero difference to the 0-60 time as you should have your foot planted to the floor anyway. All these boxes fo is change the signal from the pedal to say instead of the pedal being pressed x% it is y%. If you pressed it harder in the first place then the effect is the same.

Now get a proper remap and they can change the effect of the pedal position in exactly the same way. You will need a real custom map with that in mind as usually they don't change that as its not actually necessary as its only as if the throttle was pressed harder. All you are doing is shortening the throttle pedal, this is why it feels more when you have partial throttle. However there is less control in a shorter pedal and the last 20% of pedal does nothing as it is fully open at 80%.

So, either just change your driving style to be more aggressive on the pedal and you negate it, or do it as part of an actual proper remap then you will get a true performance gain and faster 0-60. These things on their own are a waste of money.

K507

Curious, how many of the PC 'nay sayers' have actually used one on their vehicle? I would say none, since it works as described for a decent price point which cannot be said for a lot of other mods I have tried on my vehicles.

Bahnstormer

Exactly. Most of the people bashing the product have never even tried it.

400ixl

Tried pretty much all of them over the years and know exactly how they work. Ran racecars for years and have developed engine maps

So probably know more than you and giving a real world experience view of the products and how to get a better solution if papaying money or how to change your style to get the same effect and save wasting money.

So unless you have experience of all the different scenarios then maybe you are the one talking with a lack of knowledge, not others.

Bahnstormer

Yep, you know more than me and all the multitudes of satisfied customers that have installed these devices on their vehicles and absolutely love them. But what do we know, we're simple peons with no real world racing experience.

400ixl

Really are touchy aren't you.

Does it reduce the amount you have to press the throttle, yes (as it says it will)
Can you get the same effect by just pressing the pedal harder and not buying one, yes
Does it improve 0-60, no
Does it increase HP, no
Can you get better pedal response and more power from a proper remap, yes

What is incorrect in any of that?

If you prefer the shorter pedal feel then it may well be worth it for you. As I'm sure many are.

But the OP asked if it improved 0-60 then the answer is no, as full throttle is full throttle regardless if it is at 80% pedal length or 100%. As long as the pedal is pressed to where the ECU sees it as full open there is no difference. Are you saying this is incorrect?

I have done the test on professional equipment and 0-60 will not change. Its impossible if the throttle is planted.

It will make for a more lively throttle response, but that is a different question and you can achieve the same by just being more aggressive with the throttle pedal. Again, where is this incorrect?

Bahnstormer

https://ru-clip.net/video/EyHflkdzSE...-flat-out.html

400ixl

Hahahahahaha, Torque app and GPS for an accurate 0-60 runs. I have used that for fun in my cars and its so far out even for a car with no changes its funny.

Show me something at least half professional, personally done it with pro kit and it makes zero difference, you?

Simple answer to the OP is spend a little more (the things are £200 in the UK whereas a proper ECU remap that will give you better BHP and the shorter throttle would be around £300). Due a proper job and not a bodge.