2012 E350 Coupe + pedal commander?
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2012 E350 Coupe + pedal commander?
I’ve been highly considering putting the pedal commander on my e class coupe.
I’ve heard mixed things in regard to the simple question: does it help 0-60 times?
I’ve come across people who don’t actually own the module say that it doesn’t.
I’ve come across owners of it who say they don’t “think” it does.
However, the most factual post I’ve seen was one where a guy did three runs in his truck. Each time, his 0-60 time was 0.7 to 0.8 seconds better than stock.
So what do you guys think?
I’ve heard mixed things in regard to the simple question: does it help 0-60 times?
I’ve come across people who don’t actually own the module say that it doesn’t.
I’ve come across owners of it who say they don’t “think” it does.
However, the most factual post I’ve seen was one where a guy did three runs in his truck. Each time, his 0-60 time was 0.7 to 0.8 seconds better than stock.
So what do you guys think?
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I think I’m just going to have to buy it. Can’t say no to it and it makes the car a lot more enjoyable. My car will already fly, but i think it’ll be worth it. I am also considering the RaceChip for the engine that adds 50 hp
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I love mine, It makes it a lot more enjoyable to drive. I wouldn't be surprised if it cut a 0-60 time down a little, but I wouldn't think much. It's just a lot more responsive.
I tried to get a RaceChip, but they don't make one for our cars (I have a 2013 E350 Cab).
If you find one, please post it!
I tried to get a RaceChip, but they don't make one for our cars (I have a 2013 E350 Cab).
If you find one, please post it!
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I used a throttle response controller (Not the Pedal Commander) on my CLA250. The one I used had only 3 settings and a very small controller.
The CLA250 (turbo 4) had a very significant throttle + turbo lag. The addition of the pedal box provided a great deal of improvement. I don't believe it made .7 or .8 second difference in 0-60 time-- but it drastically improved drive-ability and enjoyment. Trust me, when you need accelerate quickly to pass or make a light, etc. just .2 sec. can make a big difference. You don't gain any power, but you get access to the available power quicker.
The CLA250 (turbo 4) had a very significant throttle + turbo lag. The addition of the pedal box provided a great deal of improvement. I don't believe it made .7 or .8 second difference in 0-60 time-- but it drastically improved drive-ability and enjoyment. Trust me, when you need accelerate quickly to pass or make a light, etc. just .2 sec. can make a big difference. You don't gain any power, but you get access to the available power quicker.
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Originally Posted by Bahnstormer
ECU tune and Pedal Commander are like apples and oranges.
They compliment each other for maximum performance boost and one cannot replace the other.
They compliment each other for maximum performance boost and one cannot replace the other.
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I started out with a Eurocharged ECU tune and added a Sprint Booster later.
Night and day difference.
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Originally Posted by Bahnstormer
You're flat out wrong.
I started out with a Eurocharged ECU tune and added a Sprint Booster later.
Night and day difference.
I started out with a Eurocharged ECU tune and added a Sprint Booster later.
Night and day difference.
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I cant comment about the eurocharged tune, because my car was tuned by OE. but I had a SB on my old E550 before I got it tuned, and took it off after the tune, there was very little difference between the tune and SB, the laziness was programmed out. So I know I'm not wrong lmao.
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Will make absolutely zero difference to the 0-60 time as you should have your foot planted to the floor anyway. All these boxes fo is change the signal from the pedal to say instead of the pedal being pressed x% it is y%. If you pressed it harder in the first place then the effect is the same.
Now get a proper remap and they can change the effect of the pedal position in exactly the same way. You will need a real custom map with that in mind as usually they don't change that as its not actually necessary as its only as if the throttle was pressed harder. All you are doing is shortening the throttle pedal, this is why it feels more when you have partial throttle. However there is less control in a shorter pedal and the last 20% of pedal does nothing as it is fully open at 80%.
So, either just change your driving style to be more aggressive on the pedal and you negate it, or do it as part of an actual proper remap then you will get a true performance gain and faster 0-60. These things on their own are a waste of money.
Now get a proper remap and they can change the effect of the pedal position in exactly the same way. You will need a real custom map with that in mind as usually they don't change that as its not actually necessary as its only as if the throttle was pressed harder. All you are doing is shortening the throttle pedal, this is why it feels more when you have partial throttle. However there is less control in a shorter pedal and the last 20% of pedal does nothing as it is fully open at 80%.
So, either just change your driving style to be more aggressive on the pedal and you negate it, or do it as part of an actual proper remap then you will get a true performance gain and faster 0-60. These things on their own are a waste of money.
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Curious, how many of the PC 'nay sayers' have actually used one on their vehicle? I would say none, since it works as described for a decent price point which cannot be said for a lot of other mods I have tried on my vehicles.
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Exactly. Most of the people bashing the product have never even tried it.
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So probably know more than you and giving a real world experience view of the products and how to get a better solution if papaying money or how to change your style to get the same effect and save wasting money.
So unless you have experience of all the different scenarios then maybe you are the one talking with a lack of knowledge, not others.
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Really are touchy aren't you.
Does it reduce the amount you have to press the throttle, yes (as it says it will)
Can you get the same effect by just pressing the pedal harder and not buying one, yes
Does it improve 0-60, no
Does it increase HP, no
Can you get better pedal response and more power from a proper remap, yes
What is incorrect in any of that?
If you prefer the shorter pedal feel then it may well be worth it for you. As I'm sure many are.
But the OP asked if it improved 0-60 then the answer is no, as full throttle is full throttle regardless if it is at 80% pedal length or 100%. As long as the pedal is pressed to where the ECU sees it as full open there is no difference. Are you saying this is incorrect?
I have done the test on professional equipment and 0-60 will not change. Its impossible if the throttle is planted.
It will make for a more lively throttle response, but that is a different question and you can achieve the same by just being more aggressive with the throttle pedal. Again, where is this incorrect?
Does it reduce the amount you have to press the throttle, yes (as it says it will)
Can you get the same effect by just pressing the pedal harder and not buying one, yes
Does it improve 0-60, no
Does it increase HP, no
Can you get better pedal response and more power from a proper remap, yes
What is incorrect in any of that?
If you prefer the shorter pedal feel then it may well be worth it for you. As I'm sure many are.
But the OP asked if it improved 0-60 then the answer is no, as full throttle is full throttle regardless if it is at 80% pedal length or 100%. As long as the pedal is pressed to where the ECU sees it as full open there is no difference. Are you saying this is incorrect?
I have done the test on professional equipment and 0-60 will not change. Its impossible if the throttle is planted.
It will make for a more lively throttle response, but that is a different question and you can achieve the same by just being more aggressive with the throttle pedal. Again, where is this incorrect?
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Hahahahahaha, Torque app and GPS for an accurate 0-60 runs. I have used that for fun in my cars and its so far out even for a car with no changes its funny.
Show me something at least half professional, personally done it with pro kit and it makes zero difference, you?
Simple answer to the OP is spend a little more (the things are £200 in the UK whereas a proper ECU remap that will give you better BHP and the shorter throttle would be around £300). Due a proper job and not a bodge.
Show me something at least half professional, personally done it with pro kit and it makes zero difference, you?
Simple answer to the OP is spend a little more (the things are £200 in the UK whereas a proper ECU remap that will give you better BHP and the shorter throttle would be around £300). Due a proper job and not a bodge.
