wtf!? my intrax springs dont fit!?
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wtf!? my intrax springs dont fit!?
i bought these springs about 2 months ago on ebay NIB. they box said they were my car and everything. i read and reread the auction and it seemed fine. i have a 95 e320 sedan. my body shop called and said the springs dont fit at all. any idea why?
someone!??!?!
the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT
help people
someone!??!?!
the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT
help people
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that auction says the springs fit '93- 5/95 convertible. Maybe that's the problem. Convertibles have different chassis because they have to reinforce them so much. I don't know if that's really why or not.
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I think the convertable springs are longer or have less give to them. I originally had a 91 coupe and just transferred everything over to the convertable. With the couple/sedan springs in the back was dropped heavy, once I put the convertable springs in everything sat fine.
The front springs will be the same, just the back will be different. (that's how it was for the Eibach springs I put in)
The front springs will be the same, just the back will be different. (that's how it was for the Eibach springs I put in)
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Originally Posted by joef
I think the convertable springs are longer or have less give to them. I originally had a 91 coupe and just transferred everything over to the convertable. With the couple/sedan springs in the back was dropped heavy, once I put the convertable springs in everything sat fine.
The front springs will be the same, just the back will be different. (that's how it was for the Eibach springs I put in)
The front springs will be the same, just the back will be different. (that's how it was for the Eibach springs I put in)
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Originally Posted by jdmfiend
so how do i get these springs to fit!?
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Originally Posted by LnkPrkSoldier
Sell those and buy another set? Any modifications to the springs will weaken them and , like cutting springs, they will all not be 100% exactly the same.
that douchebag sent me the wrong ones. i read that auction over and over before bidding.
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will these fit a 95 e320?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INTRA...QQcmdZViewItem
tryin to get him to do an exchange
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INTRA...QQcmdZViewItem
tryin to get him to do an exchange
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Make..........Model.............................Ye ar......Part Number....Type...Chassis Front Rear Lbs List Price
Mercedes....300E/300CE/24v/E320.......87-95.......50.1.010.......SLS.....W124 * * 38 349
Mercedes....300CE/E320 Convertible....93-5/95......50.1.011......SLS.....W124 * * 41 349
this is off the intrax web site - it looks like it should work.
Mercedes....300E/300CE/24v/E320.......87-95.......50.1.010.......SLS.....W124 * * 38 349
Mercedes....300CE/E320 Convertible....93-5/95......50.1.011......SLS.....W124 * * 41 349
this is off the intrax web site - it looks like it should work.
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too late huh....and yes you can cut the springs to make them fit. The only way to weaken a spring is by heating them up or cutting them with a torch.
Here are the steps..
1. Do not use any electric power tools. 2. get a AIR die grinder and use some metal cuting discs 3. get a tub and fill it up with some water 4. while cutting the spring stop every 20-30 sec to pour water on it.
I would cut 2 coils max on a spring because if you cut more i'll be to bouncy. It's also easy to make them 100% the same you just take some tape and line it up from the top of the spring down. You'll go two coils down and that's where you need to cut.
Here are the steps..
1. Do not use any electric power tools. 2. get a AIR die grinder and use some metal cuting discs 3. get a tub and fill it up with some water 4. while cutting the spring stop every 20-30 sec to pour water on it.
I would cut 2 coils max on a spring because if you cut more i'll be to bouncy. It's also easy to make them 100% the same you just take some tape and line it up from the top of the spring down. You'll go two coils down and that's where you need to cut.
Last edited by YNVDIZW124; Sep 2, 2006 at 02:40 AM.
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too late huh....and yes you can cut the springs to make them fit. The only way to weaken a spring is by heating them up or cutting them with a torch.
Here are the steps..
1. Do not use any electric power tools. 2. get a AIR die grinder and use some metal cuting discs 3. get a tub and fill it up with some water 4. while cutting the spring stop every 20-30 sec to pour water on it.
I would cut 2 coils max on a spring because if you cut more i'll be to bouncy. It's also easy to make them 100% the same you just take some tape and line it up from the top of the spring down. You'll go two coils down and that's where you need to cut.
Here are the steps..
1. Do not use any electric power tools. 2. get a AIR die grinder and use some metal cuting discs 3. get a tub and fill it up with some water 4. while cutting the spring stop every 20-30 sec to pour water on it.
I would cut 2 coils max on a spring because if you cut more i'll be to bouncy. It's also easy to make them 100% the same you just take some tape and line it up from the top of the spring down. You'll go two coils down and that's where you need to cut.
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From that e-bay website..
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
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Originally Posted by cap'n jasper
From that e-bay website..
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
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Originally Posted by cap'n jasper
From that e-bay website..
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
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Originally Posted by cap'n jasper
From that e-bay website..
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
1987-1993 Mercedes E320 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300E 50.1.010
1987-1993 Mercedes 300CE 50.1.010
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the same springs can be used for the 300E as the E320 and coupe? The cars have totally different weights and weight distribution.
MB have many different springs for each W124 model based on a scoring system. ie. Build options such as aircon, sunroof etc are used to determine which springs to use. Even the weight of headlamp wipers are taken into consideration!
I know that US models have higher standard spec with fewer options but the point is one spring will not fit all models.
i looked on the intrax site to confirm the part #
Last edited by jdmfiend; Sep 2, 2006 at 01:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by GORBETTTEAM
That's new to me...to tell you the truth, so how H&R, Eibach or other companies came up with standard lowered springs? Did they used average weight?
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I think the aftermarket manufacturers expect you to mess about with spring pads to get it perfect.
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Originally Posted by cap'n jasper
I think they must just use an average weight. When I bought my H&R springs there were two different springs listed for the E320 fronts so I picked the ones with less drop, figuring the coupe must be lighter at the back.
I think the aftermarket manufacturers expect you to mess about with spring pads to get it perfect.
I think the aftermarket manufacturers expect you to mess about with spring pads to get it perfect.
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The reason there are so many different versions of the same springs is due to spring rate, this also has to due with cornering weight. When you have a H&R spring with a higher spring rate it will be a stiffer spring. Springs that are stiffer usually are lower because they are meant to lower the center of gravity since they don't need the extra spring coils for dampening.
So basically if you buy a lowring spring that has a lower spring rate then what your car is design for it will usually have more coils and won't fit. If it's a lowering spring designed for another car that has a taller spring then you can maybe make it fit by using the smallest spring pads available but i wouldn't recommend it.
So basically if you buy a lowring spring that has a lower spring rate then what your car is design for it will usually have more coils and won't fit. If it's a lowering spring designed for another car that has a taller spring then you can maybe make it fit by using the smallest spring pads available but i wouldn't recommend it.
Last edited by YNVDIZW124; Sep 2, 2006 at 06:50 PM.
