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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Smile wheel help, whats the widest I can do the back??

Im tryin 2 put a set of 19"s on my w124 cabrio, but I want a staggered look, but I dont know how wide I can go, 8" in the front and 9" in the back?

input is appreciated....
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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I have a W124 94 Coupe with 17"X 7.5" AMG wheels, 215-45 tires. I have read on several articles from people that say 19" wheels rub, they don't work on the W124 body. 18" work, but rub if you really hit a good bump.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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i've got 8.5 wide all the way round. 18 inch wheels.
get your fenders rolled to be safe...and make sure
the offset is 35. I'm running 32 and its cutting it way close.
also get the lowest profile tire you can. i've got 225 35 18s.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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8.5 is the widest i know that you can do without fender rolling. i thinik you can do 9" with rolling though, but i'm not 100% sure.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rooney2006
8.5 is the widest i know that you can do without fender rolling. i thinik you can do 9" with rolling though, but i'm not 100% sure.
appreciate the help guys,

i was thinking maybe some gfg wheels
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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I have a W124 94 Coupe with 17"X 7.5" AMG wheels, 215-45 tires. I have read on several articles from people that say 19" wheels rub, they don't work on the W124 body. 18" work, but rub if you really hit a good bump.

the gfg laguna wheels i had in mind dont even come in an 18, 19 is that smallest, so i guess thats out. I was planning on rolling my fenders anyway, but i guess i just wont be able to get the lip i was hoping for.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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It all depends on what type and stiffness your suspension is, how low the car is and how thick the rubber bands you wrap your wheels in are

I run 18x8x5" wheels wraped in 225/40 rubber and i only get a rub every once in a while like when the suspension is cold and i hit a fairly deep dip and my car is lowered 1.5 inches
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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I got 18x8 35mm offset with 245/40/18 tires on the back and 235/40/18 on the front. it's lowered with eibach springs with rolled fenders...

I'm sure u can fit 18x9 with a 245/35/18 tire if the offset is around 40mm....

You can go with 19x8.5 38-35mm offset and even 20x8 if you get a hammer and hit the top of the inner fender..

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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by YNVDIZW124
I got 18x8 35mm offset with 245/40/18 tires on the back and 235/40/18 on the front. it's lowered with eibach springs with rolled fenders...

I'm sure u can fit 18x9 with a 245/35/18 tire if the offset is around 40mm....

You can go with 19x8.5 38-35mm offset and even 20x8 if you get a hammer and hit the top of the inner fender..


huh. so as i go up in size, the wheel width has to go down. if i was 2 go 20"s, i couldnt, do 8.5' or still do 9 in the back??
It's gonna be staggered no matter da size.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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as the rim gets bigger, the sidewall will have to get smaller to compensate and keep the same (similar) overall diameter. you can have the same width, but the middle number e.g. the 35 or 40 is an aspect ratio of the width, so when you go from 15" to 18", you can still have the same width of tire, but the sidewall will go from 60 to 45, or whatever the actual numbers are.

this will help you out:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
as the rim gets bigger, the sidewall will have to get smaller to compensate and keep the same (similar) overall diameter. you can have the same width, but the middle number e.g. the 35 or 40 is an aspect ratio of the width, so when you go from 15" to 18", you can still have the same width of tire, but the sidewall will go from 60 to 45, or whatever the actual numbers are.

this will help you out:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
anybody know wut the stock tire size iz???

i know the profile would have to go down, but i didnt think the width would need to be smaller to, but i guess it helps the turning.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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the stock width is 195, but you cn go wider, the most popular width on here is 225
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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im using 225/40 on fronts and 225/45 on rears. on 18x8 wheels, and lowered 45mm all round. the fronts do rub but only the chrome guard thing, also when someone else is in the car or i hit a dip. besides that the rears havent had a problem with rubbing.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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I know it dosen't make sense to you but you have to go with a smaller width and more offset to clear the top of the inner fender. I can write an essay about why you would do this but i'll make it simple. The bigger the wheel the less clearance you have on the top of the fender and since the wheels is bigger it will angle more into the inner fender. Also a 8.5 width wheel personaly won't look that good with a 225 wide tire.

the lower the height of the wheel the wider you can go because you don't really have to worry about the inner fender and just roll the outer fender lip. You can go with 17x10 but not 20x10 since that size won't tuck under the wheel well but 20x8 will with the right offset.

There are two ways you can go with buying the right wheels.

1. Fit the tire to the wheel you want to go with. First buy the wheels then find the best fitment of tire you need.

2. Find the tire you want to fit and see how it fits then get the wheel with the right offset to fit that tire. This method i use when i order custom wheels.

Let me draw you a diagram so you can get what i'm saying...
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by YNVDIZW124
I know it dosen't make sense to you but you have to go with a smaller width and more offset to clear the top of the inner fender. I can write an essay about why you would do this but i'll make it simple. The bigger the wheel the less clearance you have on the top of the fender and since the wheels is bigger it will angle more into the inner fender. Also a 8.5 width wheel personaly won't look that good with a 225 wide tire.

the lower the height of the wheel the wider you can go because you don't really have to worry about the inner fender and just roll the outer fender lip. You can go with 17x10 but not 20x10 since that size won't tuck under the wheel well but 20x8 will with the right offset.

There are two ways you can go with buying the right wheels.

1. Fit the tire to the wheel you want to go with. First buy the wheels then find the best fitment of tire you need.

2. Find the tire you want to fit and see how it fits then get the wheel with the right offset to fit that tire. This method i use when i order custom wheels.

Let me draw you a diagram so you can get what i'm saying...
Wait, are you telling me that if I stick to 17", with the right offset, that I could go 10" wide?!?!?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Wait, are you telling me that if I stick to 17", with the right offset, that I could go 10" wide?!?!?
you can go with whatever size rim you want, as long as you shrink the sidewall to keep the same overall diameter...

this is from another forum, hope the dude doesn't mind me stealing his pics, he doesn't give his tire specs, but you can see the rears are stretched:


"My 1991 w/E55 spec DPE wheels 19x10.5 Rear 18.9.5 fronts."



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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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I'm sorry but that's just wrong

I take it those are 275 rears, look at the rim for crying out loud, that guy must park like 10 feet away from sidewalks
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Yeah, I can't remember if that's called "poke" or "stretch", but either way it's ugly. I just want 17s with the widest rims I can have without that effect going on.
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Yeah you can ride 17x10 if you get the right backspace. There is no way i would put anything above 18" without the wheel tucking under the fender because that just dosen't look right.

as long as you shrink the sidewall to keep the same overall diameter...
Dude, If you think like that that means riding on 30 series tires is a good idea..right?

this is from another forum, hope the dude doesn't mind me stealing his pics, he doesn't give his tire specs, but you can see the rears are stretched:
"My 1991 w/E55 spec DPE wheels 19x10.5 Rear 18.9.5 fronts."
Haven't you wondered why the car is not lowered??....You can fit the widest wheels on earth but that dosen't mean they look right and unless you put some kind of of spring clamp or something it's going to rub when hitting a big bump.

You can ride like this if you want but look how high the car is.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by YNVDIZW124
Dude, If you think like that that means riding on 30 series tires is a good idea..right?
no. i was just trying to explain the concept that you can technically fit a larger rim on your car as long as the sidewall shrinks to keep the diameter the same. I never said anything about it being a good idea or not.
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Well, it helps to give advice on wheels that actually fit and that work with a car because i think that was the point of his question. If he asks what's the biggest i can go on the rear it wouldn't make sense to tell him you can go with 20x10 but you have to raise your car 5 inches.

This is how much space i have with 245/40/18 michelin pilot sports.


Also tire brand matters since let say falken angles the sidewall in alittle more while pirelli or michelin have a flat sidewall against the rim.

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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oh, i'm sorry, he asked what the widest rims he could go with were, and so i tried to explain to him the idea of tire sizing and provided him with a link so he could work out different options, and then showed him someone who went as wide as 10.5 at the rears, but pointed out that to do so he stretched his tires.

anyway, i had nno idea we could have a 10" wheel in the rear, i guess i should have asked this question myself before i bought my wheels...
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that actually looks good, altough to be safe id go 18s all around and the rear prob 10 wide max, looks like those hardcore jap drifters, i like how its sits nicely flushed with the guard (but not in his case..)



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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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heres a better example of what im talking about (wheels and guard combo)


i want that look for my 124!!

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