Dan_Audio Man

I was wondering if it is possible to supercharge an otherwise stock '87 300e even though it is MFI?

I am capable of doing a custom setup with an Eaton SC, but cannot afford an engine management system and such. Any info/ideas will be greatly appreciated.

YNVDIZW124

You know what I've always thought about doing.....(afraid right now to try)
Install a performance ignition coil like this one...

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

YNVDIZW124

You should look at this thread...

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=coil+ignition

Dan_Audio Man

Is that all i'd need to make this project work? Also, is that item a direct replacement for my stock 300e?

By the way, I've kept up with the thread, but the thing is I want to make this work without expensive management system and stuff.

YNVDIZW124

No, that's a cheap mod i want to try. You will need a fuel management system and there is no other way around it unless you intall a turbo kit. Look into supercharging the VW rabbit and see what you find. They have somewhat the same CIS-E system.

Dan_Audio Man

What does CIS stand for? I believe it has to do with the Mechanical fuel injection system. So, generally, what does a turbo kit comprise of and how much do they run for? Will it be all I need to have an eaton integrated into my car safely? thanks

STLe320

The turbo kits like RBYCC's are VERY expensive...

But you could buy a turbo and do the work yourself. Go to youtube.com and search "300e turbo"

It's the blue one...maybe you can get some ideas from that video

Saijin_Naib

PUMPISH! LOL! That guy is the man.

dan_c

you better start reading, allot, and we'll talk in about a month or so?
http://www.benztrim.com
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...d.php?t=178881
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...d.php?t=169695
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...ght=turbo+m103
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...ght=turbo+m103

dan_c

http://www.apexi-usa.com/
http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...SubCategory=18
http://www.msdignition.com/index.php3
http://www.hksusa.com/categories/?id=1069
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=80
http://www.paxtonauto.com/
http://www.tfelectronics.com.au/
http://www.rotrex.com/
http://splitsec.com/index.html
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...=SUPERCHARGERS
http://autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=2511

berti_00

dammm that guy rubin with the blue benzoo... that engine is sick... not so much the body=star painting lol wtf other than that it looks great

YNVDIZW124

CIS=Continuous Injection System. You know what I was thinking last night too, What about a centrifugal supercharger instead or a roots type? It will also work with the CIS-E system...

Like this one...You can install it like a turbo without the exhaust work just need a place to mount it..

STLe320

Pumpish's hood is sick!

I LOVE how he made the cut-out for the extra air supply to the turbo

spmbass

not trying to be a ball buster but why would u supercharge a 300e i mean i have the same exzact car and im imagin that its probably got a ****load of miles and if not still 21 year old.if i put a supercharger in my car i think it would last a 2 miles before i blew a piston.

Saijin_Naib

Because the car is insanely fast and its his passion?

Thats like asking why do anything to these cars? The value is in how you feel for it.

spmbass

if you think 168 hp v-6 is is fast well whatever floats your boat
im just sayin y not put that kinda work into like a sl500 now thats a badass project if u can find one witha 5 speed

Saijin_Naib

Pumpish's finished 300e is insanely fast. It puts out monster HP. Did we watch the same video?

YNVDIZW124

I don't know about you guys but there is a point like at half throttle that you wish you can push it all the way down without it falling flat on it's face on full throttle. I wish i had more top end power but I also know the transmission can't take that much abuse.

I also wonder what part we can use from audi, vw, and bmw with the same cis system...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...ostid=46903537

spmbass

ask him how many pistons he has been through so far wuts he got like 600 hp or somthin like that yah thats ****in nuts no doubt but i dont think these models can handle it. tell me if he put all that work into one of the v-8 models that r made for more power that it wouldnt be 10 times better. its like all those those kids then dump money into a ****in hatchback whats the point?? might as well hook up a bicycle

YNVDIZW124

Hey a little extra power doesn't hurt anyone. I wouldn't pay $200 for an air intake. I rather spend money on stuff that would give me more power like a supercharger. The bottom end on these mercedes doesn't really need work for 300-400hp but the heads are the main problem when making any type of power...

Saijin_Naib

Pumpish did plan to work over a 500e for around 800-1000hp but I'm not sure how far he got on that.

Bottom line, I'd love for my CE to be quick. Its such a well composed and beautiful car, it just lacks ***** of any type.

appatula

This summer megasquirt is going into my 86' W124. I'm thinking about doing a writeup, we'll see. However I believe a MS setup is the cheapest route to a homemade turbo setup. If anyone is interested http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/ has great information on fabricating/building your own turbo setup.

I'm currently helping a buddy at school on his homemade turbo setup (95' BMW M5) and I'm impressed with MS so far =]

Dan_Audio Man

Not everyone has a sl500, yourself included. Also, high mileage in a mercedes means nothing, especially on the over-engineered w124s in the mid to late 80's.

By the way, its 177hp L6 .

Dan_Audio Man

I have already acquired a brand new m45/mp45, whichever the '03-05 SLK/CLKs have, and was trying to make use of it on this car. I just want to make a custom setup, which isn't a problem as I am plenty handy with this type of work, but I just want an affordable fuel managment option.

Overall, I am just looking to make this Eaton work safely on this car and am trying to find the easiest ways to make it happen. I am not looking to get sophisticated or spend tons to make it all fancy.

spmbass

208,000 miles spent more on a new transmisson then i did on the whole car 214,000 my one of my vavles is shot. but your probably right high mileage means nothing.... im not dissin mercedes there awesome cars my f150 has 161,000 miles and i get excited if it even starts, just sayin be realistic