roach_juts

hello every MBZ lovers

i got a 92 300e & i want to upgrade my head lights & tail lights to EURO look, do i need to change my hood & trunk , if i use a 1994-95 head light & tail light?

One more thing i want to lower my car, but i am out of budget right now because i want up upgrade my lights first, any ways IF i change my spring pads will it lower my car, if ever what spring pads # will i use

Thanks !

ZorroAMG

Tails for 94-95 are direct swap on 86-93 trunk.

Headlights WILL fit under the 86-93 hood/grille but some say it will look a little funny becuase there is no curvature in the grille to match the inside edge of the lights..

Either way you CAN do them.

Here's mine with 90 grille and 94-95 compatible headlights:



Here's my 1990 trunk with 94-95 tails (top part smoked black though)

roach_juts

WOW beautiful & neat set-up, thanks for the tip
do you know anything abt the spring pads ? if i change my pads , will it lower my car?

Bigpete123

it depends on what you have on there now. If you have the smallest pad already, there will be no way to go smaller unless you remove them altogether.

You really won't notice a significant difference by only changing out the pads. You need new springs if you want it to be noticeable.

ATL_S124

*NOT RECOMMENDING THIS* but if you want the super low-budget, Brazilian lowering kit just pull the oem springs off and chop them, then put them back on... ive seen it done...

YNVDIZW124

You can do that but the car will bounce all over the road. I've tried it on other cars but not on my benz. If you are going to cut them do them with a hand saw or if you need to use power tools get some cold water in a spray bottle and spray them down as you cut so you won't build heat on the spring and make it weaker.

AMGC

springs pads go from 1-4 4 being the thickest. wont make any difference thats worth the couple hundred to have them put in since the suspension needs to be dropped in order to change them(especially with big stock springs). now they are worth to change if your car is already lowered and your looking for that perfect stance

RBYCC

Oddly enough AMG Westmont Illinois used to cut the springs in the late eighties when they were stuffing the V8's into the W124 chassis and making the Hammers

Federic0W124

cutting springs is nothing. I know a few people who have lowered their
W124s this way and they don't bounce all over the place.

ZedStyle

i was rolling with cut OEM springs in the front, and i agree... no bouncing

ZedStyle

i wish i had known that earlier! i wanted to put in the older style aftermarket lights, because then the curved grill makes it look almost like eyelids... didn't think they would fit though, and didn't want to take the chance. maybe next time!

ATL_S124

but were they choppin on the oem 124 springs or on some stiffer AMG ones??? im still learnin about how suspension works, but it would seem to me that you loose all ability to cross rough road surface without rubbing up the inside of your fender wells... the Brazilian guy i referred to has giant shiny polished spots on the inside of his wells from rubbing while turning and from bumps is why i expressed concern...

RBYCC

In the late eighties there were not a lot of special AMG suspension components.
The independent AMG mod shops such as BHMA or Westmont would cut springs to lower the cars.
It did affect stability at certain speeds and has been documented.
You would only get rubbing or interference if the loaded spring length is too short.

Considering the labor required to remove and reinstall the springs in order to cut them, and the cost ( under $300 ) and availability of new lowering springs such as H&R's, it doesn't make much sense to cut springs anymore

Bigpete123

^exactly right. You may save $100 and get an inferior ride. Save up the extra $100 and do it right!

I'm shocked to hear that AMG used to cut springs! That's an interesting fun fact.

Zed, did you misread Zorro's comment? You have the face-lifted 124, so you can only sport the '94-95 lights. Those of us with the pre-face lift models can use either, but the '94-95 headlights cause a slight gap where the grille and the headlights meet.

You can't fit pre-facelift headlights on your car.

ZorroAMG

I'm pretty sure you CAN fit pre-lift lights, it's just a close fit...the gap isn't that deep of a recess...

I've never tried though...

JSe420

Really old thread that im bringing up... but i have a couple questions i would like to ask for those that have actually cut springs before and had no problems.

I was wondering if after you cut your springs if you wore tires fast. I just put new tires on it and i dont really feel like burning through them.

Also, how much did you cut off and how much of a drop did that give you? I dont want to end up cutting too much or too little.

I'm only trying to achieve a 1 to 1.5 inch drop. I have everything i need to do this on my own so its not going to cost me anything. I just think that lowering it just a tad will give me the stance im looking for.

Any advice is appreciated

roach_juts

hJse420.... my wagon has a cut springs & never had a problems with performance, i actually do canyon driving with out any hassel & very very little body roll, regarding the tires i feel theres no effect on burning... i forgot how many coil or turns i cut , but i can insert 2 fingers in front & rear .. good luck

roach_juts

you can check the old treads for the pics of my wagon