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04-11-2009, 08:17 PM
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Look what i got for free....
A E320 Special Edition! My brother gave it to me for as a graduation gift and to get rid of my 300SD (which i never did 
or will). Well the graduation gift has some problem 
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The tranny wont shift past 2200 RPM,
weak in reverse (it engages, but if you suddently hit the accelearator pedel, it revs then it moves back.
Highlight dose not work, when i pull it the lever nothing happnes, but if i push the lever only the headlight turns off.
It has a start problem, when cold or after driven and let sit for 20 mins, it takes some crank to get it to start. When i replace the spark plug i saw quite a puddle of oil in the spark plug chamber, someone told me its was the headgasket problem.
The engine runs SMOOTH, I read somewhere that these W124 has some wire harness problems lucky i saw a tag that said "delphi" and had FD and the part number i knew i had a new wire harness replaced by mercedes dealership, even my indi mech said its has a replacement. Lucky that E320 was not equipted with ARS, I know many of you would rather take the ARS because it has more torque
... O i almost forgot to introduce my self, I live in Oklahoma, occupation is working in a hospital as a CNA
, And i we own a 300SDL, 300SD and the E320 
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ENVY ON
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or will). Well the graduation gift has some problem . The tranny wont shift past 2200 RPM,
weak in reverse (it engages, but if you suddently hit the accelearator pedel, it revs then it moves back.
Highlight dose not work, when i pull it the lever nothing happnes, but if i push the lever only the headlight turns off.
It has a start problem, when cold or after driven and let sit for 20 mins, it takes some crank to get it to start. When i replace the spark plug i saw quite a puddle of oil in the spark plug chamber, someone told me its was the headgasket problem.
The engine runs SMOOTH, I read somewhere that these W124 has some wire harness problems lucky i saw a tag that said "delphi" and had FD and the part number i knew i had a new wire harness replaced by mercedes dealership, even my indi mech said its has a replacement. Lucky that E320 was not equipted with ARS, I know many of you would rather take the ARS because it has more torque
... O i almost forgot to introduce my self, I live in Oklahoma, occupation is working in a hospital as a CNA, And i we own a 300SDL, 300SD and the E320 ....ENVY ON
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Last edited by Actros617; 04-11-2009 at 08:20 PM.
04-11-2009, 10:14 PM
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When you pull out the headlight, that engages the foglights, not the highbeam unless it is different on that 124. High beams are by pushing the indicator back/forward.
As for the cold/warm start problem, could be the fuel filter or accumulator. I would start by checking the fuel pressure if possible and see if after 30mins the pressure has dropped below 3bar.
Oil on the plugs is not a head gasket problem -- It is either the mixture being set way too rich, bad valve guides/valve stem seals.
How many miles on the car? Do you have any history on anything other than the wiring harness?
As for the cold/warm start problem, could be the fuel filter or accumulator. I would start by checking the fuel pressure if possible and see if after 30mins the pressure has dropped below 3bar.
Oil on the plugs is not a head gasket problem -- It is either the mixture being set way too rich, bad valve guides/valve stem seals.
How many miles on the car? Do you have any history on anything other than the wiring harness?
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04-11-2009, 10:41 PM
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Miles is around 204K miles, I was pulling the indicator lever when i was checking the highlight, i ll see if i can get a hold on a fuel pressure, I ll check if there is anymore oil in the chamber, I forgot to mention when i was removing the sparkplug, it was VERY easy to unscrew the plugs out, i did not even have to put any effort to remove them, i have gotten new plugs and is installed and they are tight, ill check to see if there is anymore oil accumulation... I got to say ps2cho you have a couple of sharp looking W124's
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04-11-2009, 11:48 PM
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If the head has not been touched at all in its life, then almost certainly the valve guides, or at the very least the stem seals are letting oil pass through. I would try and find out from your brother if he has ever had this done in the time that he has owned the car, or if he knows if another owner did.
First thing I would do though is get a compression and leakdown test done so you have a baseline to start with.
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Thanks
Just got a small rough idle issue with the wagon and the 260E is going to pass its smog tomorrow Maybe then I can have two running 124's.
First thing I would do though is get a compression and leakdown test done so you have a baseline to start with.
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Just got a small rough idle issue with the wagon and the 260E is going to pass its smog tomorrow Maybe then I can have two running 124's.
04-12-2009, 12:20 AM
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I am going to take a wild guess that he did not do a valve guides, are they easy to do (they dont sound like one), or do i have to take it to a my INDIE shop.... And i ll check to see if my car is consuming oil within this week.
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04-12-2009, 12:11 PM
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Valve guides require the head to be removed and rebuilt. At an Indie, you are looking at anywhere from $1100-$1600. If it is honestly leaking that much into the chamber, then almost certainly the cat is toast by now too.
04-12-2009, 12:45 PM
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how would i know that my cat is toast?? I heard when a cat dies it should smell like rotten eggs, is there any other signs that the cat could be toast we dont have emissions inspection over here.
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04-12-2009, 02:35 PM
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Give it a good hit with your fist. If it makes sounds like a christmas tree jingling then its broken down to some extent...
The only real way to test it is to cut the exhaust pipe right before the cat and if it runs better then you know the cat is blocked.
It is hard to say though...are you sure it is the transmission that won't go over 2200rpm, or is the engine not going over 2200rpm? If its the later, then its possible the cat is the cause due to backpressure.
The only real way to test it is to cut the exhaust pipe right before the cat and if it runs better then you know the cat is blocked.
It is hard to say though...are you sure it is the transmission that won't go over 2200rpm, or is the engine not going over 2200rpm? If its the later, then its possible the cat is the cause due to backpressure.
04-12-2009, 03:56 PM
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The engine will rev up to 7K rpm effortlessy, I am thinking that the tranny needs rebuilding, Well at least the K & B valves and pressure clutch needs replacement, Or could be just the torque converter going out, should i do a torque test ( placing in D and holding the gas pedle and brake pedel to see what rpm)
04-12-2009, 07:31 PM
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I have checked the spark plug chamber and they were dry as a Desert, I took my car to my local indie to lift it up to check the cata, and there is nothing wrong with it....
04-12-2009, 08:44 PM
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The engine will rev up to 7K rpm effortlessy, I am thinking that the tranny needs rebuilding, Well at least the K & B valves and pressure clutch needs replacement, Or could be just the torque converter going out, should i do a torque test ( placing in D and holding the gas pedle and brake pedel to see what rpm)
Good to hear they were not covered in oil. If it happens again, maybe consider running a little heavier oil like 20-50.
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As to the Torque Convertor, I believe there is an RPM limit when you load the torque convertor in drive with the brake on.
04-13-2009, 12:59 AM
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None. What does it achieve other than putting stress on the torque converter?
From what I have read, doing this is bad for the transmission in general.
But as to the RPM's, don't quote me on it, but transmissions are limited to like 2200rpm depending on the car (some higher some lower) when you do a torque test by holding the brake in drive and accelerating.
I don't know almost anything about transmissions so I can't really help you in regards to that. I would recommend finding a good independent Mercedes Benz Indie and having him look over the car and tell you what the problem is.
From what I have read, doing this is bad for the transmission in general.
But as to the RPM's, don't quote me on it, but transmissions are limited to like 2200rpm depending on the car (some higher some lower) when you do a torque test by holding the brake in drive and accelerating.
I don't know almost anything about transmissions so I can't really help you in regards to that. I would recommend finding a good independent Mercedes Benz Indie and having him look over the car and tell you what the problem is.
04-17-2009, 11:05 AM
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Right now am recking up some $$$ to get that tranny fixed, I was quoted $1400 juts to rebuild and it comes with a new torque converter, I got someone that is able to remove and install the tranny for $300 so I am lootking at $1700 which it no as has as dealer 6k! $4k for new tranny $500 for And 1.5k for labor.
04-17-2009, 03:34 PM
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Seems a great price!
Considering you got the car for free, I wouldn't personally feel bad spending $1700 on the transmission. The car otherwise isn't worth a whole lot. Once that is fixed you should have an awesome ride
Considering you got the car for free, I wouldn't personally feel bad spending $1700 on the transmission. The car otherwise isn't worth a whole lot. Once that is fixed you should have an awesome ride
04-17-2009, 04:01 PM
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$1700 is really nothing because that's how much i would be investing into this car, if i plan to sell it (which i wont) i can get more than what i spent on the car , I was wanting to know when your reach at 3200 RPM do you hear a sound diffrence and a suddent shift in sound and little sport like rumble in the engine, i know those are the variable intake valve, i just want to know is that suppose to happen, i thought its suppose to be smoothe all the way.
, I was wanting to know when your reach at 3200 RPM do you hear a sound diffrence and a suddent shift in sound and little sport like rumble in the engine, i know those are the variable intake valve, i just want to know is that suppose to happen, i thought its suppose to be smoothe all the way.
