rivcal4life

I am quoting the 2 fellows most knowledgeable on this topic:

"It has been a while since this topic was discussed and I recall several folks mentioned a group buy in October? While a group buy is fine, you can also order individually. I am standing by to wake up your 500E's and put a smile on your faces."

"Ok here is the system; 100HP with an 80HP jet included and recommended for 4.2L engines. The 100HP jet can be used in the 4.2 if you use a dyno to verify A/F ratio. The 100HP system can produce up to 125HP with the factory fuel pumps. The 100 HP system includes a full kit with detailed instructions. The installation requires removing the MAF body and drilling/tping for the NOS nozzle. It also requires adjusting an aux WOT switch (provided) and wiring to the EZL and interior. If you are a hands on DYI type this is doable. You should use either a wide band O2 or dyno to confirm propper A/F ratio under boost, BEFORE going wild."

"The price for the system is 1995.98 plus shipping. If you guys do a group buy of 5 or more, I will reduce the cost to 1875.98 The bottle is shipped empty and you will need either a wide band O2 or Dyno time to insure the system works correctly. This is a full feature system; Electric bottle valve, Pressure gauge and adaptor, bottle blanket and all the unique features for a M119 LH/Motronic installation.

-Steve of BergWerks"

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"Folks, now is seriously the time to jump on this if you have ever even considered a cost-effective way to bump the HP of your car in applications that matter (i.e. stoplight acceleration, drag racing). Steve is doing the community a favor by doing a second production run of these; many of us thought they were gone forever."

"I can tell you as the owner of one that yes, if carefully installed, they WORK and the dyno work proves this. Having 420HP under your *** from a stoplight really does keep you right up with the big boys these days. A 12.89 second quarter-mile isn't shabby, either. For a street car, that's fairly fast."

"For $2K, this is a REAL bargain compared to all of the "other" solutions that people have been banging on about here for the past 5-6 years. Of which very few people have actually done (supercharging, increasing displacement, etc.) because of the sheer cost (a minimal 5.6 or 6.0 is going to run $10-15K plus labor). You can get same HP (albeit not 100% of the time available) for a small fraction of that with the nitrous kit. I've had mine for 5 years now and my own motor has not melted down.
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Cheers,
Gerry"

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We are hoping to get the group buy ready by mid-late November, but will wait if others are committed. $120 saved is $120 earned. We already have two people signed up. We just need three more.

Saijin_Naib

That is sick dude. Install write-up?

CDP

LOL

190E 16V

Rivcal,

Best ask Gerry, doesn't the car need FGS engaged and ASR overide?

rivcal4life

FGS no, ASR defeat yes.

Chinny4290

nitrous systems? Get a cheap japanese econobox if you want a nitro rice rocket. Don't do it to a premium German auto.

rivcal4life

This particular system has been tried and proven for reliability. Please, do not judge those with goals for their cars different than your own.

jason3977

NITROUS IS THE ISH! I LOVE IT! 100 SHOT ON MY 500E. IN THE 12's JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A Y BAND A/F.

Chinny4290

I respect that to each his own.

But hey...I guess it's fine to rice out a Ferrari 365 GTB 4.

Or dump 24s on a 300SL Gullwing.

orr hell even clunk a 500E for C4C

point being that cars of such specialty and rarity should be left to those who appreciate what they are in stock form and only use OEM equipment for mods or mod things that are easily replaceable. But hey, once again to each his own.

jason3977

Man your car is your car! rare or not! You paid your money for it. do with it as you please! some of these guys on here are so **** about cars that dont belong to them and get all girlie when someone does something to there car that they wouldnt do! I always said "if you dont have nothing nice to say....skip to the next thread"!!!! i have a 100 shot planning to go to 125 shot this week! i will let you know!

jason3977

Also if you want the FGS i have a brand new fgs switch! let me now if you want it! i have one on my car it works good.

190E 16V

I don't think that a nitrous kit detracts from the engineering or aesthetics of these cars - just a hidden, bolt-on boost in hp.

However, I agree with your point that these cars, the original vision of the creators, the advanced and unique engineering, approaches works of automotive engineering art. A snapshot of that period of development

Q. Are these high end examples "defaced" when they are radically altered/updated???

190E 16V

What kind of FGS ? Are the upshifts programmable? Does it receive signals from the ABS? How much $$$ ?

rivcal4life

A little info on my personal vehicle:

It has a salvage title. It had body damage when I bought it. It had missing lights, bulbs, horns, interior pieces, and a destroyed sunroof. Not to mention ugly headlights which are going to be changed, and a miserable mesh grill.

I like to think I have saved the poor car from what would have otherwise been a slow process of decay and depreciation. It will never be the example that any collector wants in their garage, but it CAN be the car I want it to be, and that's definitely better than where it was headed.

190E 16V

Hey, I fully understand.

My car is a Rebuilt (Salvage) as well. It was repaired two years ago with very low miles. Front end was totaled. Frame was ok, but front clip was replaced with "facelifted" front end, by PO.
It will never be a collector car either, but I want it to perform as intended, and as it is renowned for. I am proud to be the owner of a 500E!
Like you, I feel fortunate that I have some licence to modify, but I realise how few are left true to their original form.

David Hendy is on Ecstasy is parting out a second totalled 500, now. I hear of another guy, "Mr. Red", who has lost two 500's, an accident, an arson, and is now modifying a third. YVRBNZ lost a 500 to a spontaneous fire.

Gerry is compiling stats on his Registry of 500's catching fire under the dash or in the cats. He also posted stats from the German DMV. Of the 5,000 cars sold in Germany ( 1/2 of .036 production), if I recall correctly, less than a 1,000 are now registered.

And now... Cash for Clunkers!

All this makes one wonder how many cars are remaining and what condition they're in. I suspect that well-maintained, unmodified examples must be getting fewer.


BTW
I saw your early pictures. Good that you 'saved' that car and it will have a new lease on life.

Chinny4290

With my commenting, this is where I come from. I can't help but let it get to me thinking how many 500Es are remaining in this country unmolested and original and as time goes they'll slowly disappear. Thats why I fight to preserve them! It bothers me because 500Es will never exist again and you can't go back in time! Unless someone decides to build them like someone does with DeLorean.

and rivcal, its nice that you saved a 500E and for that I'll tip my hat off to you. but if it were my $ i would've restored it to original spec, dropped some Monoblocks on it and upgraded small things like exhaust and brakes...all things replaceable with original parts to maintain value. And if I wanted a fast 1/4 car I would've just modded a 400E. but again to each his own.

battlecat714

Soooo...you bought an .036 then? Pics? Good luck with the NOS setup Jay, Vince also has one in his 500e - good stuff :

Chinny4290

please CLEARLY quote me on where I said that

jason3977

YES THEY ARE HERE IS THE LINK TO THE UNIT I HAVE!
http://www.fgsswitch.com/
I WILL TAKE $100 FOR IT!

dadu salim

whats the best solution for frequently evaporator leakage?

battlecat714

Chill. I'm just teasing you. It's just that you say, "I fight to preserve them!" yet the biggest contribution you can do (which you haven't done so for whatever reasons), on your part to "preserve them," is to buy one (or two) - just like what Justin is doing...So what if he's adding NOS - there's another 500E in decent condition just a few miles from here - and they'll still be around years later because there's guys like him who basically care enough about the car to restore them - and then some.

So relax and ease up on the drama, there will still be a nice 500e waiting for you.

jason3977

^^^^WORD^^^^ CHILL! MY 500E IS FOR SALE. I WILL TAKE THE N.O.S. OFF FOR YOU! $16,000.00

epowers777

Holy crap y cant people comment to themselves. I love NOS and its not cheating. So is anyone going to go in and buy one or just talk crap!!! MMMM 100 shot on the 300te 4matic Talk about sleeper

rivcal4life

Update! The individual putting these kits together (Steve from Bergwerks) has offered to honor the group-buy pricing with only 3 kits instead of 5. The only stipulation is that there is now a deadline of December 1st. I know that it is a lot to ask of you all to step forward with so much money on such short notice, but this is likely to be out last chance to jump on such an opportunity. Due to the rising cost of certain components I the kit, Steve will never be offering them at this price again. He has stated that the price is likely to go up to over $2500. Since I don't see many people being willing to sheep out that kind of money, it is probably that they will cease to exist entirely.

We only need one more person...

rivcal4life

$1850 guys. Anyone?