Any peformance parts out there
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2006 CLS55AMG, 1997 S500C, 1992 300CE Sportline, 1984 300SD
Any peformance parts out there
Is there any performace parts out there for the 92 300ce, cant seem to find anything. I dont want no extra noise or anything.
Just look on a thread i made. I got *****ed out by all of these people on this thread.
But in the end you will just learn that there arn't really any true performance upgrades.
Custom exhaust will add maybe 8 HP but that will add "extra noise".
Our cars already apparently have cold air intakes, but you could get a performance one. Which i don't believe would give any more than 5 HP. If that.
Ecu Tuners claim that you can get up to 30 HP. I think you can get 10 HP or so from an ECU tune but dont expect much more.
As i have been told:
The first thing you want to do is try to restore your cars original power. Get it checked for vacuum or compression leaks. New sparks plugs and wires, etc.
Once you have done all of this, then worry about the rest of the performance upgrades.
I have learned that there is no such thing as cheap power.
You can make this car pretty fast if you drop some money onto it though. Mosselman or Turbotechnics twin turbocharger kits. They will bump your hp to slightly over 300 HP i believe. Good luck ever coming across one, and if you do. Make sure you have 10 grand in your bank ready to be put into them.
New the Turbos will cost slightly over 7 grand. Plus installation and any parts you may need that will handle that power better.
Now, if you are simply looking for faster acceleration, consider getting the Rear differential from the r129 300sl. It uses a 3.69 ratio instead of 3.06.
The downside is, if you are cruising on the highway, you will be sitting at 3500-4k revs. Also it will slow down your top speed some. But the car already does 149, are you ever going to go above 140?
Thats all the advice i can give you. Read some other members threads for information.
Saijin Naib has some threads with good info. Members here have left good advice on my threads.
Good Luck!!
But in the end you will just learn that there arn't really any true performance upgrades.
Custom exhaust will add maybe 8 HP but that will add "extra noise".
Our cars already apparently have cold air intakes, but you could get a performance one. Which i don't believe would give any more than 5 HP. If that.
Ecu Tuners claim that you can get up to 30 HP. I think you can get 10 HP or so from an ECU tune but dont expect much more.
As i have been told:
The first thing you want to do is try to restore your cars original power. Get it checked for vacuum or compression leaks. New sparks plugs and wires, etc.
Once you have done all of this, then worry about the rest of the performance upgrades.
I have learned that there is no such thing as cheap power.
You can make this car pretty fast if you drop some money onto it though. Mosselman or Turbotechnics twin turbocharger kits. They will bump your hp to slightly over 300 HP i believe. Good luck ever coming across one, and if you do. Make sure you have 10 grand in your bank ready to be put into them.
New the Turbos will cost slightly over 7 grand. Plus installation and any parts you may need that will handle that power better.
Now, if you are simply looking for faster acceleration, consider getting the Rear differential from the r129 300sl. It uses a 3.69 ratio instead of 3.06.
The downside is, if you are cruising on the highway, you will be sitting at 3500-4k revs. Also it will slow down your top speed some. But the car already does 149, are you ever going to go above 140?
Thats all the advice i can give you. Read some other members threads for information.
Saijin Naib has some threads with good info. Members here have left good advice on my threads.
Good Luck!!
Am i learning 190E 16V? Or do i still have more to learn?
Most of the stuff i wrote in that post there was some knowledge you guys have forced me to accept. Some of its not exact, but i tried. Im still a beginner at this.
Im a competitive person, which is where my enthusiasm comes from. My friend has a Honda Civic Si, and thinks my car is a P.O.S. because it can't do 0-60 as fast as his.
So, i just wish my car could run the 0-60 as fast as his. Which is 7.2, hence the reason i wanted my 0-60 in the low 7s if you remember.
Its all good. My car stock runs 0-200 km/h in 35 seconds i think. His does 0-200 kh/h in 42 seconds. But he rarely does over 100 mph cuz his dad has a speed thing, that tells him if he goes over 70 MPH.
Its OK though, even though i found out i can't make my car perform as i wish it would. I have been very happy to see people saying the the W124 is the best W124, coming from people who own newer faster ones too.
Thanks for all the info lately 190E.
And sorry ballinafg for using this post as an off-topic message.
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Most of the stuff i wrote in that post there was some knowledge you guys have forced me to accept. Some of its not exact, but i tried. Im still a beginner at this.
Im a competitive person, which is where my enthusiasm comes from. My friend has a Honda Civic Si, and thinks my car is a P.O.S. because it can't do 0-60 as fast as his.
So, i just wish my car could run the 0-60 as fast as his. Which is 7.2, hence the reason i wanted my 0-60 in the low 7s if you remember.
Its all good. My car stock runs 0-200 km/h in 35 seconds i think. His does 0-200 kh/h in 42 seconds. But he rarely does over 100 mph cuz his dad has a speed thing, that tells him if he goes over 70 MPH.
Its OK though, even though i found out i can't make my car perform as i wish it would. I have been very happy to see people saying the the W124 is the best W124, coming from people who own newer faster ones too.
Thanks for all the info lately 190E.
And sorry ballinafg for using this post as an off-topic message.
=)
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What you have learned has been by "rote", much different then by "experience" and "application".
Until you get your "hands dirty" and learn/understand the "basics", then you're just "parroting" what you hear from others....
To question: "Do I still have more to learn? ", is an admission that you have yet to learn anything
Until you get your "hands dirty" and learn/understand the "basics", then you're just "parroting" what you hear from others....
To question: "Do I still have more to learn? ", is an admission that you have yet to learn anything
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Hey neighbor, not much of any add-on parts unless you get into the engine. I know someone local who can build an AMG clone engine, depends on your budget...
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As far as getting my finger nails dirty, my father has owned a shop for 30+ years. So im more than familiar with european cars. The diff did come to mind but finding a SL diff might help it off the gut but i dont want to be over reving on the freway. I have been thinking off pulling off the head and upgrading everything with port and polishing. As far as the amg clone, how much im i looking?
Oh and my bro has a 87 190e 2.3-16 with 70K orginal miles, I love driving that thing.
Oh and my bro has a 87 190e 2.3-16 with 70K orginal miles, I love driving that thing.
Search function will help you here. Tell your friend with the civic stop comparing hot wheels to real cars. Coupes were something like 65K new in the early 90's, also the power goes to the right wheels. If you want to go fast get your check book out. There is performance avail but you're looking at $$$$$ per HP.
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Well you don't have to get the 3.69 rear diff. I think yours is probably a 3.06, and i think some of the later models are 2.65 or so.
You could just get a 3.27 because then you get improved acceleration, and you won't be sitting at 4k revs on the highway.
I guess 3.69 is too high for people who do a lot of commuting or highway/freeway driving. But 3.27 should be fine.
With my 300E 2.8L stock i do about 2k revs @ 60 mph maybe a little bit more, but somewhere between 2,000 and 2,300.
With a 3.27 rear diff you might be doing 3k revs @ 60 mph which isn't too bad unless you plan to average 60-65 for hours.
Oh and i don't know much about it, but you can get your limited slip differential changed. Or if you get the gear ratios change, but changing the gears will slow down the car. And its probably pretty expensive.
Then if money is no biggy to you, just simply get a c36 engine swap, or mosselman/turbotechnics twin turbo kit.
Idk how much power the c36 engine will produce, but i do know the twin turbos will bump you up to 300-320 hp or so. Almost as much power as the 500E =).
Then from there add a high performance intake and a chip. Which will maybe give you 10 hp in total. But for $400 for performance CAI and a chip isnt to bad if you are getting 10-15 hp. Although i don't know if chips work at all, i would think they would work for 8-15 hp?
You could just get a 3.27 because then you get improved acceleration, and you won't be sitting at 4k revs on the highway.
I guess 3.69 is too high for people who do a lot of commuting or highway/freeway driving. But 3.27 should be fine.
With my 300E 2.8L stock i do about 2k revs @ 60 mph maybe a little bit more, but somewhere between 2,000 and 2,300.
With a 3.27 rear diff you might be doing 3k revs @ 60 mph which isn't too bad unless you plan to average 60-65 for hours.
Oh and i don't know much about it, but you can get your limited slip differential changed. Or if you get the gear ratios change, but changing the gears will slow down the car. And its probably pretty expensive.
Then if money is no biggy to you, just simply get a c36 engine swap, or mosselman/turbotechnics twin turbo kit.
Idk how much power the c36 engine will produce, but i do know the twin turbos will bump you up to 300-320 hp or so. Almost as much power as the 500E =).
Then from there add a high performance intake and a chip. Which will maybe give you 10 hp in total. But for $400 for performance CAI and a chip isnt to bad if you are getting 10-15 hp. Although i don't know if chips work at all, i would think they would work for 8-15 hp?





