AMGDave

Those are the only two I know of. I don't know what the quality of the RED is like, I don't know anyone who has bought one, and I've never seen good photos of it. The Wiecher's bar is about $250 USD total and you have to order from them in Germany. The bar is something like $169 EUR, plus exchange rate, plus S&H, plus a bank wire fee all adds up to ~$250. Or you can get two for about $450 since the wire fee and S&H is the same for one bar or two. If you can get another couple people to buy at the same time you can definitely save a few bux...

lino

Thank You.