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Dude, where are my speakers?

Old Nov 19, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Question Dude, where are my speakers?

I have a 2002 E-class w/the Bose 8-Speaker Premium Sound system. Where are the speakers?

I can spot the 2 in the front doors, the 2 in the rear doors and the 2 on the deck lid behind the rear seats.

That makes 6. Where are the other 2???
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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oh come on,,,, 2 more in the front window pillars,,and 2 more in the back deck,,they seem to multiply as I look for them ,LOL
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocca
I have a 2002 E-class w/the Bose 8-Speaker Premium Sound system. Where are the speakers?

I can spot the 2 in the front doors, the 2 in the rear doors and the 2 on the deck lid behind the rear seats.

That makes 6. Where are the other 2???
There are 4 in the front doors.

4 front door + 2 rear door + 2 back deck = 8

There are no speakers in the sail panel if you have Bose. The dash speakers are for the (optional) integrated phone.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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He's exactly right, check the corner door sill next to the side view mirrow for the top speakers. I will say this car has the best sound system of just about any sedan I've ever driven
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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Talking Tweeters

OK thanks. I thought that it had speakers there. You can see the outline of speaker ports.

I knew that I had two by the feet (ankles) but I could not find the other two!!! Rear doors and rear deck was clear to me - you can see 'em.

However, I am not getting any sound from the ones opposite the side-view mirrors (in what's called the A-Pillar) and the owners manual is silent on speaker location.

I'm under warranty and so off to the dealer I will go.

Thanks guys.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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There are no speakers in the A-pillar near the mirrors (this spot is called the "sail panel") with the Bose system.

That is the speaker location for the tweeters with the non-Bose system. Bose puts the midrange and tweeter (2 speakers) in each front door for better sound imaging.
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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OH!!!
I had misunderstood at first. Thanks.

Tweeters would be nice there though. Any idea if it's doable w/ the Bose system?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Adding Tweeters

According to the Bose auto audio site, Bose designs their audio systems to best meet the acustic needs of each car model. I would sit back and enjoy. I think adding speakers would only screw up the system.

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Wait a sec, I see conflicting info in this post?? My car is a 2000 430. I see the (and hear) the 1 round in each door, and the 2 on the rear deck. There are 2 spots on the front dash and I assume these are for the phone. It is the 2 small ones on the door oppisite the mirror (2" to 3" in dia) Sail panel. I believe I hear sound from the sail ones, but I am not sure. I thought I had the pre. sound. Any info?
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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I have the Bose system in my 2000 E320T. The front door has a tweeter mounted in front of the base driver. This is not a coaxial speaker but separate components. The rear doors have a single driver and the sub-woofer is mounted above the CD changer in the passenger side load area.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Question what????

I'm still confused.

Can someone just please go out to their 2002 E-Klasse w/ the Bose, crank up the CD player and put his/her ear to the sail panel to listen for sound.

I get no sound. Anyone else w/me?????
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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the sail panel is right by the feet?
by the foot handbrake
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Talking Sail Panel

Edison_Chen:

The sail panel looks like a sail. It's a triangle. When you're sitting in your car and look to the left to look out the side view mirror you look right in the direction of the sail panel. It's the section of panel inside your car, opposite the side mirror. You have one on the right side too.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocca
Edison_Chen:

The sail panel looks like a sail. It's a triangle. When you're sitting in your car and look to the left to look out the side view mirror you look right in the direction of the sail panel. It's the section of panel inside your car, opposite the side mirror. You have one on the right side too.
oh that one...

Is there a speaker right by the left foot hand brake?

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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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I just went through this with an "audio specialty shop" and mb. here are the results of an mb with bose 8 speaker system:

there are no speakers in the triangular sails-located on the door(witnessed this myself, when the door panel was removed. This sail area is only utilized for stock stereo system. Thus, if you have speakers in this location you either have aftermarket additions or a stock stereo system(according to mb sa).

the dash mounted speakers are for the integrated phone system.

the 8 speakers are made up of the following:

4 in the front lower doors (ankle area). I believe he referred to these as 2 two-way speakers. The tweeter is integrated within the speaker. Pretty lame if you ask me.

2 in the rear doors

2 subwoofers in the rear deck.

Hope this helps. The SAs seemed pretty savy regarding their entertainment products. If you have any other questions regarding your particular car, they would probably be more than happy to provide you with info. When I asked them about adding more or different speakers, they suggested that i do a-lot of research regarding this as bose does not always accomodate other products. Such differing products have shorted out the entire system and even "fried" the fiber optics-accoding to the SAs I spoke with. Apparently, Bose is weaker than most systems from an amperage POV. This website does have a vast amount of info regarding these issues. From what I've seen, those who are truly unhappy with their system abandon the bose altogether. My older bose blew this one out of the water. I've considered doing this myself, but the expense is too high at this time. LOL
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocca
I have a 2002 E-class w/the Bose 8-Speaker Premium Sound system. Where are the speakers?

I can spot the 2 in the front doors, the 2 in the rear doors and the 2 on the deck lid behind the rear seats.

That makes 6. Where are the other 2???
I'm only finding 4 in my wagon:

2 in the front doors
2 in the rear doors

That makes 4 - are there others in the wagon?

I've seen the grills in the sail panels and on the front dash above the vents, but based on previous replies, I don't think these are used by the stereo system. I don't see any speaker grills in the back of the wagon or in the hatchback door and I don't hear any speakers in that area of the car.

The reason I ask is because I just installed an aftermarket radio from Crutchfield and it doesn't sound like I'm getting enough bass. I do get some bass from the two front door speakers, but not from the rear door speakers.

Just looking for some advice before I call Crutchfield tech support...

--Ryan
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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The Bose system in my W210 wagon has a bazooka type sub-woofer in the passenger side load area compartment. The door speakers are dual driver, a tweeter center mounted in the front of the mid-range driver - actually 2 separate speakers.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JimPurdy
The Bose system in my W210 wagon has a bazooka type sub-woofer in the passenger side load area compartment.
Do you mean the compartment in the side wall where the disc changer and the first-aid kit are located?

I don't see any speaker grills in the back and I looked in both compartments (the disc changer compartment on the passenger side, and the spare tire compartment on the driver side).
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Yes, this is above the disk changer.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Question Dude, where's my amp?

Sorry to veer off here but while we're on the topic, after installing a CD changer (had the well lining out) I noticed my 210 doesn't have the Bose amp. I have the Bose 8 speaker system. (code 810)

Did I get hosed at the factory or was the Bose amp an option on the 2001 E430?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JimPurdy
Yes, this is above the disk changer.
Ahh yes, I've got that in my wagon. Thanks for the pic.

It really isn't pushing much bass though even when I have the stereo cranked. I get more bass out of the front door speakers than anywhere else. Furthermore, I get almost no bass out of the rear door speakers. I'm thinking of putting the factory stereo back in for comparison.

Thanks again!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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EPC shows 8

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Blackbeard, this is for the sedan. What does it show for the wagon?

Thanks!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Blackbeard, this is for the sedan. What does it show for the wagon?

Thanks!
If you give me your VIN I'll look it up. It seems '99's have a couple of different configurations.
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