01 E430 wierd dash LED problems
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01 E430 wierd dash LED problems
The dash on my 2001 E430 has a few definate strange problems. Hopefully someone else has come across these.
When I first start up the car it will occasionally not light all the LEDs for the clock. Also the temperature will not show correctly, only lighting about 1/2 of the leds necessary to show the current temp outside.
Within 15 mins of driving the clock is showing correctly and now the temp is almost showing correctly.
Within 1 hour of driving both show correctly 95% of the time.
This happens every time I drive the car. I can shut off the car for 5 seconds and start it back up with almost the same results.
When I first start up the car it will occasionally not light all the LEDs for the clock. Also the temperature will not show correctly, only lighting about 1/2 of the leds necessary to show the current temp outside.
Within 15 mins of driving the clock is showing correctly and now the temp is almost showing correctly.
Within 1 hour of driving both show correctly 95% of the time.
This happens every time I drive the car. I can shut off the car for 5 seconds and start it back up with almost the same results.
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I think the LEDs for the clock and for the temperature are going out. This is a common problem and will be covered if you are under warranty.
The instrument cluster has gone out on our 2002 E320 in 2005.
Sometimes the clock and the temperature shows correctly because the digit "5" does not require the top right LED and the bottom left LED. If those were the broken LEDs, then you would have the correct digit displaying.
The instrument cluster has gone out on our 2002 E320 in 2005.
Sometimes the clock and the temperature shows correctly because the digit "5" does not require the top right LED and the bottom left LED. If those were the broken LEDs, then you would have the correct digit displaying.
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I thought of burn out too at first but it's not even attempting to show the correct time or temp.
For example.. After posting this I stepped outside and started the car. It showed -7 degrees. It's +85 here today. I left the car idling and went outside again and found it reading : 88 which seems accurate to me.
Could it be a computer issue?
For example.. After posting this I stepped outside and started the car. It showed -7 degrees. It's +85 here today. I left the car idling and went outside again and found it reading : 88 which seems accurate to me.
Could it be a computer issue?
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if there is a space between the "-" and the "7" then it could be trying to read "87" and the "8" is difficult to register because all the LEDs around the center LED "-" are failing to register.
However, if there is a space between the - and the 7, then the computer really is trying to tell you that there is a negative temperature.
The thermometer reading does need to be accurate, because the computer will change some reflexes if the temperature is below a certain point. ESP goes to a more active mode thinking there may be ice on the road, etc. The air conditioner may be confused on whether to use the "cold" air from outside and wondering why the interior is so hot.
While this may be expensive to fix if you're out of warranty, I suggest that you bring it in to the dealer and ask them what you should do about it.
However, if there is a space between the - and the 7, then the computer really is trying to tell you that there is a negative temperature.
The thermometer reading does need to be accurate, because the computer will change some reflexes if the temperature is below a certain point. ESP goes to a more active mode thinking there may be ice on the road, etc. The air conditioner may be confused on whether to use the "cold" air from outside and wondering why the interior is so hot.
While this may be expensive to fix if you're out of warranty, I suggest that you bring it in to the dealer and ask them what you should do about it.
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Turns out it is a computer problem. The dealership is doing a software update for free and they claim it will fix this issue.
Thanks for your friendly push to get it into the dealer. I wasn't looking forward to a $1,500 repair bill but in this case it's free! A seldom luxury with MB's
Thanks for your friendly push to get it into the dealer. I wasn't looking forward to a $1,500 repair bill but in this case it's free! A seldom luxury with MB's
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Are you sure it's software? I've been in to dealer and is definitely a cluster problem that is expensive. What the other folks are sayong is correct that depending on which led's are malfuntioning it wil apper the + is -, and nubers change all the time. My favorite is any temp in 80's looks like 90's because lower left vertival of 8 is bad!
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I had the same problem too, temperatures weren't reading correctly. At least that's what I thought at first. So I took in to my dealer and the problem was the Instrument Cluster due to missing pixels. Since my car is still under warranty they replaced. Now everything is back to normal again. I did tell them about any computer updates or glitches if possible they told me that is not the problem. It was difinitely the instrument cluster in which I was told it's a common problem for our cars. They never heard of or perform any computer software updates.
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I had the same problem too, temperatures weren't reading correctly. At least that's what I thought at first. So I took in to my dealer and the problem was the Instrument Cluster due to missing pixels. Since my car is still under warranty they replaced. Now everything is back to normal again. I did tell them about any computer updates or glitches if possible they told me that is not the problem. It was difinitely the instrument cluster in which I was told it's a common problem for our cars. They never heard of or perform any computer software updates.
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Listen to the guys.
It's not a software glitch. It is actually the solder connections on the display behind your temp and clock. It's a very common problem on the w210's. It usually shows up after 60k miles or so right after it's out of warranty.
It's not a software glitch. It is actually the solder connections on the display behind your temp and clock. It's a very common problem on the w210's. It usually shows up after 60k miles or so right after it's out of warranty.
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if there is a space between the "-" and the "7" then it could be trying to read "87" and the "8" is difficult to register because all the LEDs around the center LED "-" are failing to register.
However, if there is a space between the - and the 7, then the computer really is trying to tell you that there is a negative temperature.
The thermometer reading does need to be accurate, because the computer will change some reflexes if the temperature is below a certain point. ESP goes to a more active mode thinking there may be ice on the road, etc. The air conditioner may be confused on whether to use the "cold" air from outside and wondering why the interior is so hot.
While this may be expensive to fix if you're out of warranty, I suggest that you bring it in to the dealer and ask them what you should do about it.
However, if there is a space between the - and the 7, then the computer really is trying to tell you that there is a negative temperature.
The thermometer reading does need to be accurate, because the computer will change some reflexes if the temperature is below a certain point. ESP goes to a more active mode thinking there may be ice on the road, etc. The air conditioner may be confused on whether to use the "cold" air from outside and wondering why the interior is so hot.
While this may be expensive to fix if you're out of warranty, I suggest that you bring it in to the dealer and ask them what you should do about it.
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I have the same issue with the pixels in my cluster. Unfortunately mine is out of warranty and its a $1200 dollar fix at my local dealer. I found a place that does repairing on the pixels for $250 which ironically is a half hour from my house. I dropped it off the instrument cluseter today (you can also ship) and they said that it will be done tomorrow. Sounds like a good deal to me to avoid that 1200 dollar new one.
The place is BBA Manufacturing
Taunton, Mass.
The place is BBA Manufacturing
Taunton, Mass.
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So did it work? What do you mean you "drop it off the instrument cluster"? Do you have to remove the instrument cluster yourself and then drop it (cluster) off and pick it up later or can you drive in, have them do the work and drive away?
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you have to remove it (cluster) from your dash and send the cluster to them. They fix it there and send it right back...so yes your car would be out of service for that time. My car is in the shop being fixed so it was a good time to remove it and have it done so it worked out for me. If you have to use your car everyday I'd imagine it would be a hassle but it worked for me and I saved $1000 dollars. Everything looked perfect when I got it back and they warranty it for a lifetime.
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temp light out
well, my outside temp lcd shows a temp, but it's no longer illuminated......
anyone come across that problem? thx........
anyone come across that problem? thx........
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The light bulb burned out. You need to get a replacement bulb (hard to find, check your dealer or online, Autozone will not have it). Remove the cluster (search for "coat hanger cluster"). Replace the bulb. You may want to replace them all, to avoid this happening again soon.
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LED Replacement W210
Does anyone know the part number for the temprature and clock LED? I want to purchase and replace myself. Video on You Tube shows removal of instrument cluster 5 minutes changing LED 6 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyBW4XsKkNA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH4tk...ext=1&index=16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyBW4XsKkNA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH4tk...ext=1&index=16
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300E a couple 1994 w124wagon E320 Wagon/,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross ,2000 E320 wagon.
That's
a non U.S. model you might try to source it or the part number from a mb dealer and then shop for it online suppliers.
Have you tried the cheap pixel repair diy to see if it can be remedied without getting new unit?
Have you tried the cheap pixel repair diy to see if it can be remedied without getting new unit?
