4matic lowering
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'98 E320 4Matic, '85 380SL
Brabus makes (or used to make) a lower kit for 4Matic. I'd imagine these kits aren't readily available because of lack of demand and the more complex engineering to accomodate the front axles.
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Also, on the W210 4 Matics the ground clearance on the front differential is marginal and lowering it will possibly create some issues and perhaps some "strikes" on the front diff.
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I do not think so as I recall in the W210 I had that I scraped on some rough areas in a construction area and when I looked underneath there were marks on the front diff not the pan. Fortunatly there was never any damage.
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1998 E320 4-Matic
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...78091814&rd=1"
Apparantly these will work for 4Matic models, according to whomever I contacted at "High Rev Auto Parts"
They actually have two different sets available for the W210, one fits 95-02, the other fitting 96-02 (with a specific blurb about it not fitting 4Matic and S.Lev models.)
I just contacted them again asking if they would guarantee fitment for the 4Matic model.. Lets see what they say to that
Apparantly these will work for 4Matic models, according to whomever I contacted at "High Rev Auto Parts"
They actually have two different sets available for the W210, one fits 95-02, the other fitting 96-02 (with a specific blurb about it not fitting 4Matic and S.Lev models.)
I just contacted them again asking if they would guarantee fitment for the 4Matic model.. Lets see what they say to that
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This is the only info I have found on lowering so far. I hate having so much wheel gap. I plan to try #1 pads soon.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...lowered+4matic
This is the only info I have found on lowering so far. I hate having so much wheel gap. I plan to try #1 pads soon.
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I spoke with a rep. at Brabus USA and he said the fact that they made these springs for the W210 is a myth, however, I did not speak with Anthony, who has been quoted saying that Brabus did make these springs. I also spoke with a rep. in Florida, and they don't even carry any products for the W210 whatsoever, so he was no help.
I found these springs on ebay.de, however I do not speak German.
Someone on this forum mentioned the front axle passing through the spring? this is FALSE. Looking at my car this spring looks like a standard coil spring, which is just shorter in length as compared to the rear. I found these on ebay.de and am close to making the purchase.. Any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-BRABUS-Tiefer...QQcmdZViewItem
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I found these springs on ebay.de, however I do not speak German.
Someone on this forum mentioned the front axle passing through the spring? this is FALSE. Looking at my car this spring looks like a standard coil spring, which is just shorter in length as compared to the rear. I found these on ebay.de and am close to making the purchase.. Any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-BRABUS-Tiefer...QQcmdZViewItem
Search continues...
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I spoke with a rep. at Brabus USA and he said the fact that they made these springs for the W210 is a myth, however, I did not speak with Anthony, who has been quoted saying that Brabus did make these springs. I also spoke with a rep. in Florida, and they don't even carry any products for the W210 whatsoever, so he was no help.
I found these springs on ebay.de, however I do not speak German.
Someone on this forum mentioned the front axle passing through the spring? this is FALSE. Looking at my car this spring looks like a standard coil spring, which is just shorter in length as compared to the rear. I found these on ebay.de and am close to making the purchase.. Any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-BRABUS-Tiefer...QQcmdZViewItem
Search continues...
I found these springs on ebay.de, however I do not speak German.
Someone on this forum mentioned the front axle passing through the spring? this is FALSE. Looking at my car this spring looks like a standard coil spring, which is just shorter in length as compared to the rear. I found these on ebay.de and am close to making the purchase.. Any comments?
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-BRABUS-Tiefer...QQcmdZViewItem
Search continues...
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Hey I purchased those springs... If they worked out the girl that is selling them has a connection for more, so I will definitely be buying many sets and placing them on e-Bay US on my personal account.
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'08 CL600 with 152k km; '01 E430 4Matic with 433k km; '17 Porsche Cayenne with 130k km
Please let all of us know...I am dying to lower mine just by a bit...so 18's in the summer won't look so goofy...hahaha! But if I don't, it's still all good. Keep us posted! Don't go charging $200 for the springs...hehe
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Hey I got the springs and with just a quick visual inspection they look like there gonna fit. The front ones are just shorter since the axle passes beneath them. My new issue is finding SHOCKS! I wanted to run Bilstein HD but cant find them for a 4Matic, I would rather not resort to running stock shocks with the Brabus springs.
Also, the ends of these springs are not flat, they are open coil style (which is nice if I would like to cut them to do more of a drop) Does anyone know where I can find a spring pad with a contour to match the end of the spring?
Oh and my total cost for springs was about $300, it was like $170 + for s&h
Also, the ends of these springs are not flat, they are open coil style (which is nice if I would like to cut them to do more of a drop) Does anyone know where I can find a spring pad with a contour to match the end of the spring?
Oh and my total cost for springs was about $300, it was like $170 + for s&h
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Hey I got the springs and with just a quick visual inspection they look like there gonna fit. The front ones are just shorter since the axle passes beneath them. My new issue is finding SHOCKS! I wanted to run Bilstein HD but cant find them for a 4Matic, I would rather not resort to running stock shocks with the Brabus springs.
Also, the ends of these springs are not flat, they are open coil style (which is nice if I would like to cut them to do more of a drop) Does anyone know where I can find a spring pad with a contour to match the end of the spring?
Oh and my total cost for springs was about $300, it was like $170 + for s&h
Also, the ends of these springs are not flat, they are open coil style (which is nice if I would like to cut them to do more of a drop) Does anyone know where I can find a spring pad with a contour to match the end of the spring?
Oh and my total cost for springs was about $300, it was like $170 + for s&h
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No more 4Matic lowering springs at Brabus USA
I called Anthony up today at Brabus for these 4Matic lowering springs. He knew exactly what I was talking about as well. Apparently, there is still a demand for them since he regularly gets calls about it. He thougth I was someone else that called earlier in the month.. However, they have since discontinued them, and they don't even have anymore in Germany or stateside.
So instead, I contacted Lorinser USA and they were also familiar with what I was talking about. Ken, Director of Sales of Lorinser USA, told me that he'll let me know if they have any leftover in inventory. He also said that if there weren't any left in stock, he would find out a minimum order to begin a production run. Much more helpful than Brabus. Will let you guys know.
If he needs a number of individuals willing to purchase a set of 4Matic lowering springs, would any of you be interested? I'm so tired of my huge gap when I put my summer wheels on. The car sits and looks so ridiculous. And HE<< no, I don't want to cut my springs. As Ken said, hopefully I will have good news by next week.
So instead, I contacted Lorinser USA and they were also familiar with what I was talking about. Ken, Director of Sales of Lorinser USA, told me that he'll let me know if they have any leftover in inventory. He also said that if there weren't any left in stock, he would find out a minimum order to begin a production run. Much more helpful than Brabus. Will let you guys know.
If he needs a number of individuals willing to purchase a set of 4Matic lowering springs, would any of you be interested? I'm so tired of my huge gap when I put my summer wheels on. The car sits and looks so ridiculous. And HE<< no, I don't want to cut my springs. As Ken said, hopefully I will have good news by next week.
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If you could
get the springs no one makes the double arm shocks for the 4matic
in a shorter shock rebound and travel so what would you do to solve that major issue?Getting the ultra expensive adjustable coil over kit,might be the only solution.
in a shorter shock rebound and travel so what would you do to solve that major issue?Getting the ultra expensive adjustable coil over kit,might be the only solution.
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I'll ask Ken about that. I know that if I replace the springs, I have to replace the shocks as well. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I have received contact from Ken at Lorinser USA and they DO have the lowering springs for 4Matic. However, they only have the springs, not the shocks. I asked him about a picture of the springs and if I had to modify the front suspension. Apparently, the front suspension on a Euro-spec 4Matic is different than a US-spec 4Matic; hence, the modification.
For those that aren't familiar with the springs on a 4Matic, I've attached a picture. The front is a little shorter to accomodate the front axle via a bracket. The fact still remains: no shocks for the front. Second picture attached is a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs for 4Matic. The modification comes in when trying to keep the spring perched on that grey platform at the bottom of the spring in between the bracket and spring.
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.
For those that aren't familiar with the springs on a 4Matic, I've attached a picture. The front is a little shorter to accomodate the front axle via a bracket. The fact still remains: no shocks for the front. Second picture attached is a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs for 4Matic. The modification comes in when trying to keep the spring perched on that grey platform at the bottom of the spring in between the bracket and spring.
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.
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